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    His staffers have committed fraud & have also apparently committed forgery.

    They need to be indicted in 2029.

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          It points to the fact that if you want things to change, the Dems are not going to help you. I’m sorry if the truth causes you to doom-out and not be able to fight. You should work on that. Pretending in a lie so your feelings don’t hurt, so you can fight for an “option” that will not save you, is far more harmful.

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              Saying “the Democrats have no desire to change things or save us” is not the same as saying “there is no hope”.

              I mean this from the bottom of my heart. Things are very very bad. If your mental state has deteriorated to the point where you feel that the truth is “doomerism” and that you need to believe in false hope just to mentally survive, you need to genuinely tend to your mental health. Fussing at your triggers online is not helping. In fact if you’re like most people, the online time is probably only hurting.

              The Democrats are not going to save you. A future where you matter can be forged, just not through them. I hope you can find some real future to hold onto🧡

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                  I do discuss viable options. I didn’t in this post. It is not viable to do so in every interaction. To take your very valid frustration with the status quo out on me, someone who sees and fights, is far more harmful than my glib reminder that the Democrats will not fix the way things are, only perpetuate them.

                  You seem to be very thirsty for real action. You can’t get that here, my friend.

                  If you still want to hang out here, and you need viable suggestions to be mentioned for your own mental health, I would suggest that you add them any time you see a comment that you feel is “dooming”. If you want the work, do the work. Hoping that people leaving 3 second comments do it, is a losing strategy. Getting angry at allies, taking your very valid frustration at your current situation out on them, hurts your cause far far more than a comment like my original one could.

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              I feel like their point was that if being told that democrats wont save us sends you into a doomerism spiral of misery and despair, that’s maybe something you should work on yourself. And a more sober reading of our current situation is not that one should lose all hope, but that they should find it outside the democratic party.

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            It’s the political ratchet. The GOP drives things to the right and the Dems obstruct movement in reverse. Because of the realities of how elections in the US work, you’re going to get one or the other, so the choice is between “make things actively worse” or “stall.”

            The only real way to effect change while operating within the electoral system is to remake the parties from within, which the right is much better at than the left, see the Tea Party and MAGA. For some reason, anyone in the US even a hair left of center is terrible at messaging.

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        It’s tough to try to indict the GOP when the majority of american voters decided they don’t care and voted the ringleader back into the White House…

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        Its gotta be easy to run against the worst people possible. The ads write themselves. If you want to win of course.

        Maybe thats why democrats didnt want to prosecute Trump. Gotta get one more election in with the big bad guy. Plus you can genocide whoever you want and break union strikes. What are they gonna do, let trump win? I wonder who will be the bad cop after Trump croaks.

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      That’s adorable.

      Democrats coukd win every seat in every election and they won’t do jack shit against any of these criminals.

      “TiMe tO mOvE oN aNd rEuNiTe tHe CoUnTrY” or some bull shit.

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    17 days ago

    Does anyone remember when Biden stepped down and Republicans were real mad that the democrats were “hiding” his decline?

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    The only thing that’s surprising is that they didn’t immediately on the stroke of midnight submit a press release of his passing, given the suggestion that he needed to make it to August 3rd in order to avoid any chance of the governor appointing his replacement. I wouldn’t have bet my own life on it, but I was halfway expecting to wake up this morning to the news of his passing.

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    Dont worry, the DNC is ON IT. Schumer hasnt written a strongly worded memo on it yet, but I think he’s considering it. I know that other than Beshear muttering some weak objections and not following through, the DNC has done and said nothing at all about it, but uh… yeah vote blue no matter who.

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    Democracy is having more then two options to choose from. If the two party system is so great and everyone is fully reoresented, the blue and red conservatives shouldn’t mind replacing First-past-the-post voting with something that let’s people transfer their vote if their first pick doesn’t win.

    But I guess wanting to able to vote how I want is a purity test… and we dont do that here right?

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    Can someone explain to me what the upside for the republicans is in this game?

    Mitch has a very safe seat and his replacement would probably be a dependable Republican vote. Now he can’t vote, can he?

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      There isn’t an upside. They’re just as stuck as the Democrats are. Mitch isn’t dead, he’s likely severely incapacitated. They’d love to have him on the Senate floor voting R but he isn’t healthy enough to do so, and the only way to remove a Senator is expulsion by a two-thirds vote in the Senate. That certainly wouldn’t get enough votes and, at this point, is pretty irrelevant anyway since the seat would simply remain vacant.

      But you are correct that as long as he’s ill he isn’t voting, which is a good thing, which is why there was really no need for people to be all over Andy Beshear’s nuts this past month.

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        In order to get the war powers resolution to fail, Fetterman had to vote with them. If Mitch were declared dead, a special election would have had to have been held and anyone could have run in it. Tommy Tuberville Thomas Massie would have run, split the Republican vote and a Democrat could/would have taken the seat and that resolution would not have failed. Let’s not pretend the Republicans aren’t engaging in fraud on purpose. They are. They know precisely what they are doing and they need to be held accountable. But they’re on a very long list in that regard.

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              Nah, too busy watching you do that, lol. Because people from here know the difference between Massie and Tuberville.

              You’re just another very new account warming up for the midterms.

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                Ah, and of course you never make mistakes. Like assuming that someone who has a five day old account didn’t just move to it from their other, 3-year-old account.

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                  Ah, and of course you never make mistakes. Like assuming that someone who has a five day old account didn’t just move to it from their other, 3-year-old account.

                  What a bizarre take. It’s not for me to assume anything at all about a commenter, especially in a community where people operating in bad faith change up accounts more often than I change socks. They write what they write.

                  If you want someone to believe you post from a three-year-old account, there’s a way to do that besides posting from a five-day old account.

                  And you have yet to prove that I wrote in error, because – wait for it – I didn’t.

                  I verify what I write before I post (usually with supporting links, as above), and when I personally err – which I cannot ever recall having done in such an egregious fashion as above – I don’t lash out in rage at the person who pointed out my error.

                  There are people in the world who casually communicate untruths on the regular and then complain that everyone else is stupid. And now apparently you think others should be mindreaders too, lol. Carry on, don’t let me stop you.

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      I heard there was also a quirk of electing a replacement. Prior to August 3rd, it would have been a new election. While republicans would normally win, they have an issue with their primary. The other republican could have run and split the vote. This could have let a democrat sneak in for 6 months.

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      Mitch’s seat isn’t as safe as you think it is. I believe Charles Booker has a good chance of defeating Andy Barr in the General.

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      Things I have heard, that may or may not be accurate but do not sounds like “batshit stuff.”

      • If its after the 3rd, they can’t do the special election because its too close to the regular election, I guess it takes 3 months to organize the special election. Nevermind that the special election person would get sworn in for most of November and December.

      • I have also seen, I beleive for this one, that it may be that the GOP would pick 3 replacements, and the Governor who is a Democrat, picks from.thise three, maybe I am thinking of a different state, but they risk the Governor picking the “least crazy” of the three.

      • More likely, I saw a comment that if McConnel is gone, it disrupts several comittees and could shift them to the Dems or tie them. His successor is not guaranteed to be his replacement in these comittees.

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    Republicans don’t want democracy, they want whatever puts their beliefs first and cheating is not out of the question.

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    This is only an argument if one values democracy, which the voters of Trump clearly does not

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      true, but lets get real, the dnc doesnt care what you think either, unless you are by chance mega rich?

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    I’m going to come out here and say he’s not dead, just effectively dead. Like on life-support and little to no chance of recovery, but I think they’ll hold on to that as an excuse… “He’s going to get better”… Yeah no way bruv

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      Tbh any lapse in an officials ability to simply show up for their job should be an immediate termination. Realistically we should grant a 2 to 3 day window but not when a single sick day equals fully fired for majority of the population.

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      most people think he died the moment the news reported him being loaded into ambulance, they probably have him in cold storage right now, and his staff is autopenning all his signature.