My main reason is I’m an American, China (probably) can’t do shit to me. But here I’m subject to so much shit America can do legally and illegally, with zero repercussions.
If China fucked me in particular over, odds are it would at least spark debate here. If America spied on my messages and stopped me from protesting something, that’s just a Tuesday afternoon here.
The only reason why Congress wants to ban it, is due to pressure from news agencies and the government, because TikTok can’t be controlled by the CIA. You can’t manufacture consent of the people if the content comes from someone else you don’t control.
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/13/1237501725/house-vote-tiktok-ban
They’ll ban tiktok but won’t punish overly aggressive police.
They’ll ban tiktok but won’t make food or rent affordable.
They’ll ban tiktok but won’t denounce Israel’s bullshit.
They’ll ban tiktok but won’t cancel student loans.
They’ll ban tiktok but won’t take Covid seriously.
Fucking preach
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Hah! yeah
How does Microsoft always fly under the radar?
2013: Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages
Microsoft has collaborated closely with US intelligence services to allow users’ communications to be intercepted, including helping the National Security Agency to circumvent the company’s own encryption, according to top-secret documents obtained by the Guardian.
The files provided by Edward Snowden illustrate the scale of co-operation between Silicon Valley and the intelligence agencies over the last three years. They also shed new light on the workings of the top-secret Prism program, which was disclosed by the Guardian and the Washington Post last month.
Well yeah, by default Microsoft holds your encryption keys. Why wouldn’t they be able to unencrypt it? Implement Customer Key if you want to hold your own encryption keys.
For fun context, Google “Microsoft Vortex Service”
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Remind me again who was wiretapping Merkel’s cell phone? China right? Oh wait no sorry, it was the USA.
Who was caught wiretapping.
Between August and September 2007 Chinese hackers were suspected of using Trojan horse spyware on various government computers, including those of the Chancellory, the Ministry of Economics and Technology, and the Ministry of Education and Research.[180] Germans officials believe Trojan viruses were inserted in Microsoft Word and PowerPoint files, and approximately 160 gigabytes of data were siphoned to Canton, Lanzhou and Beijing via South Korea, on instructions from the People’s Liberation Army.[181]
From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_intelligence_activity_abroad
It is a very long Wikipedia article (as is anything involving CIA activities abroad, to be sure).
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How about I share something from my own country. What I reckon is that only some of my data goes to the US government through Google, Microsoft etc. while the Chinese government controls corporations like tencent much more than the US government controls US corporations. Besides all that, services from Microsoft and Google are much harder to avoid than for example tiktok and Huawei. So the US is getting my data no matter what, I might as well limit how much of it goes to china.
while the Chinese government controls corporations like tencent much more than the US government controls US corporations
welcome traveller from an alternate universe where Snowden leaks didn’t happen 😂
In the US it is the big corporations that control the government.
looks like US propaganda machine is working smoothly in Europe
Vibes-based threat modeling, a classic.
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I’m not big of a fan of Chinese surveillance but to most peoples point that have already posted here, if this was about privacy then the government should be passing laws to protect consumer privacy as a whole and not just targeting Chinese companies. Really shows that the government doesn’t give a shit about your privacy just who’s able to get it.
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Does your government violate human rights?
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Is this a joke?
- List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
- Second Thought: Are We The Baddies?
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Yes??? How can it be so hard for people to grasp that both China and America violate human rights all the time?
Fuck the USA and fuck China. Spyware sucks no matter where it’s from.
Common “both-sides” fence sitter L
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I’m a fascist because I don’t like authoritarian countries?
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https://www.npr.org/2024/03/13/1237501725/house-vote-tiktok-ban
Advocacy groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union, have called the bill “censorship plain and simple,” arguing that “jeopardizing access to the platform jeopardizes access to free expression.”
At 27 years old, Florida Democratic Rep. Maxwell Frost is the youngest member of Congress, and he opposes the bill.
“I think that it is a violation of people’s First Amendment rights,” he said. “TikTok is a place for people to express ideas. I have many small businesses in my district and content creators in my district, and I think it’s going to drastically impact them too.”
The fact that Republicans started it is enough for me to be at least suspicious of why its even being considered.
EDIT: Also lol at “strong first amendment rights” when redneck states ban any books with queer or black characters. And lmao at “Strong first amendment rights” when people get fired for talking about forming a union, let alone even trying to make one.
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Lol comment removed for (I guess?) linking to a Wikipedia article on Chinese dissidents…
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I read through the first link you provided, it doesn’t align with your claim “TikTok OBJECTIVELY collects far lesser data than Big Tech apps and services.”
We go section by section
TikTok is worst here, collection all possible voice, face, environment data
Again TikTok infer as much information as possible, worst among all listed.
The later couple section did not mention tiktok, so I cannot compare it.
Finally
TikTok ranked number 3 in among all the social media, above clubhouse and twitter, just below facebook and instagram.
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Whos tankies ?
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Chinese-police-in-America units
Five Eyes governments & corporate media Cold War II propaganda slop: False Witnesses and Sinister Plots: Exposing the CIA Connection in the ‘Chinese Police Station’ Narrative
What is the Chinese state going to do to you from the other side of the world, other than feed you targeted ads? Attack you with Havana Syndrome or turn you into a Manchurian Candidate via 5G? Why would the Chinese state be the least bit interested in you?
Does no one remember how ridiculous the red scares and the first cold war hysteria looked in the rear view mirror? Because the new hysteria looks just as ridiculous to me now. Same cartoonish propaganda, same credulous acceptance of it.
Do you have a source that is a little more reliable?
The concern about TikTok acquiring your private information for marketing purposes is a red herring. The concern of our government here is propaganda and narrative control – power.
A whole lot of censoring on these posts on lemmy.ml
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Yeah, it really makes you think.
If I had a nickel for every time I saw one of these posts, I’d have two nickels, Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice on the same day
And posted by the same account that was created yesterday!
