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  • Yeah, gold isn’t worth anything unless a community agrees to assign a value to it, which probably won’t happen in an apocalyptic scenario. If you really want to be prepared, you need to stock up on things that are actually useful:

    • non-perishable, nutritious food (preferably something that has a lot of calories in a small serving so you could carry it on you)
    • drinking water!! you would have to change it every once in a while though, so you wouldn’t be drinking germ soup if a societal collapse actually happens
    • durable, good quality clothing for various climates/weather conditions (due to climate change and the possibility that you would flee somewhere, you should preferably have clothing suitable for other climates than just the one you’re used to)
    • miscellanous supplies, like tools for building shelters, farming, making & maintaining different items, destroying things like trees or rocks to make space for building/agriculture or more likely, obtain materials. Things to protect yourself and your loved ones from the elements, like a good tent, sleeping bags, etc. Flashlights, powerbanks, batteries, water purifiers, multitools…
    • knowledge. No matter how much stuff you have, it’s no use if you don’t actually know how to do things. Learn canning, blacksmithing, sewing, gardening, fishing, carpentry, foraging, and so on.

  • I mean, considering the fact that numerous pre-modern cultures relied on (diluted) alcohol as their main drink since water was too dirty to drink safely without mixing it in with wine/beer/whatever, and that a lot of people would use alcohol to cope with te hard times that might actually be a good skill to have in the scenario of large amounts of infrastructure becoming unusable. (modern knowledge of germ theory & boiling drinking water would probably make it a lot more useless, but I bet you could find people willing to trade supplies with you for a nice drink.




  • But in a societal collapse owning land doesn’t matter, because land ownership is much more dependent on contracts, which don’t mean jack shit without a society and a government, and if you have to flee because of a war or a natural disaster, you can’t just stuff your forest/house/farmland/whatever in a suitcase and sell it later.





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    Also even if our whole population could be sustained by hunting and gathering alone, that’s still a shitton of work. Don’t come at me about that before you’ve spent 5 hours in the woods crouching over bilberry bushes getting stabbed by twigs and stung by mosquitoes to earn less than a liter of berries.


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    Nope, that started after the neolithic revolution.

    Before that, people had way less kids since 1. diseases weren’t as rampant then as they were after beginning agriculture (turns out that living in close corridors and near your animals that are full of diseases and parasites may not be healthy), and 2. people breastfed their babies until 3-5 years, unlike later, when people only breastfed them for a year or so, or even used wet nurses, which allowed the mother to get pregnant again soon after giving birth.

    Of course a lot of kids surely died, but not nearly as much as in later societies up until the introduction of vaccines and other parts of modern medicine.

    As for infanticide, I’m not particularly knowledgeable on that, but I’m pretty sure that it wasn’t nearly as common when births were much rarer and attitudes towards groups that later cultures usually killed as babies, such as disabled people, intersex people, and others that were considered ‘deformed’, were much more lenient.