Drop Bear
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In summary, when anachronisms are removed, Palestine was governed under Muslim rule for over a millennium, compared with only a few centuries of limited and intermittent Jewish political sovereignty. Today’s Palestinians are the continuation of its indigenous population, largely descended from the land’s long-standing inhabitants, whose identities evolved over time through cultural, linguistic, and religious change, not population replacement.
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4. The Arab-Muslim conquests did not replace the population. It replaced the Byzantine rulers. When Muslim rule began in the 7th century, the population of Palestine was already indigenous, largely Aramaic- and Greek-speaking Christians and Jews. Over centuries, many locals adopted Arabic language and Islam. This was cultural and religious transformation, not displacement of the population.
5. Palestinians are not recent arrivals. They descend from the region’s continuous local population, including ancient inhabitants who later became Christian and Muslim. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence shows continuity of Palestine being inhabited, not replaced, by Palestinians.
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2. Ancient Israelites were one population among many, not the exclusive inhabitants. Archaeology and history show that Israelites emerged within the existing Canaanite population, alongside Philistines, Phoenicians, Arameans, and others. They did not replace the population nor establish permanent dominance.
3. “Jewish people” is not a timeless category tied to political sovereignty. The identity “Jew” develops after the Babylonian exile (6th century BCE), originally referring to people from Judah and later becoming a religious–communal identity, not a territorial one. Most Jews lived outside Palestine for nearly two millennia. After the Babylonian exile, the only clear case of Jewish sovereign rule in Palestine was the Hasmonean Kingdom (c. 140–37 BCE), established after the Maccabean revolt. This rule was short-lived (about a century), geographically limited, and ended when Rome intervened.
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The Bnei David Yeshiva quite approve of Hitler. He just had his untermensch wrong.
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And here was me, thinking that comment was a bit hyperbolic!
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#Israel![David Sheen @davidsheen · Dec 6 New Netanyahu-appointed director of the Mossad is a graduate of the Bnei David Yeshiva, which preaches that Hitler was "100% correct" and "the most righteous person possible" and that Palestinians have "genetic problems" and thus must be literally enslaved https://kipa.co.il/חדשות/1215963-0/ [quoted post] David Sheen @davidsheen Last night Channel 13 news revealed recordings of instructors at a top Israeli religious academy. In part 1, the head of the seminary pines for the return of slavery – said to be the natural order – because Arabs have “genetic problems” and thus they “want to be under occupation” [link to video in Hebrew] 9:28 PM · Apr 30, 2019 [end quote]](https://cdn.theblower.au/media_attachments/files/115/704/830/521/075/848/original/93704fc66aa9dfae.png)
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Palestine@lemmy.ml•To be an Israeli National Zionist is to be immoral. The only decent option is to dismantle the Zionist ethno-colony and imprison the majority of Israelis.
4·20 days ago“… 46% of Israelis said they oppose…”, so 54% support illegal settlements or are indifferent. As I said, a majority of Israeli National Zionists belong in prison.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog/_entry/poll-plurality-of-israelis-oppose-841-million-smotrich-plan-to-expand-settlements/
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Palestine@lemmy.ml•"We invite you to join us at 10 am (AEDT) on December 7 …
2·1 month ago@anne_twain There are admirable people in the world, but the arseholes have the loudest voices.
It’s hard to know what the majority of Jewish Australians think. I’ve never seen credible polling.
The words in the image below are from four decades ago.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171228212521/https://www.wrmea.org/1985-may-27/the-fate-of-author-of-fate.html
By all reports, the situation is worse these days.@palestine@lemmy.ml
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Palestine@lemmy.ml•"Israel appears to be “removing people from Gaza … and sending them on chartered planes” without stamping their passports."
1·1 month ago@Tooden
A bloodthirsty ethno-supremacist ideology, such as that which spawned Israel, does not recognise any limits that are not forced upon it.
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Palestine@lemmy.ml•"Israel appears to be “removing people from Gaza … and sending them on chartered planes” without stamping their passports."
1·1 month ago@Tooden The Zionists will not stop until they are stopped. I doubt they’ll stop, even if they achieve their “Greater Israel”.
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Palestine@lemmy.ml•"Israel appears to be “removing people from Gaza … and sending them on chartered planes” without stamping their passports."
1·1 month ago@Tooden By any reasonable analysis, Israeli National Zionism is a terrorist ideology. Israel undeniably survives by terrorising its neighbours (and even states that are not its neighbours).
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Palestine@lemmy.ml•"Israel appears to be “removing people from Gaza … and sending them on chartered planes” without stamping their passports."
1·1 month ago@Tooden
Most of the world views Hamas as a resistance movement, not a terrorist organisation.
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Palestine@lemmy.ml•"Israel appears to be “removing people from Gaza … and sending them on chartered planes” without stamping their passports."
1·1 month ago@Tooden
Between German National Socialism and Israeli National Zionism, the parallels are remarkable.
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Palestine@lemmy.ml•"Israel appears to be “removing people from Gaza … and sending them on chartered planes” without stamping their passports."
1·1 month ago@Tooden
I’m reminded that, before World War 2, the Nazis were quite happy to help Jews leave the lands that they wanted as lebensraum for the Herrenvolk.
https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/thirteen-holocaust-survivors-compare-zionist-policies-to-those-of-the-nazis/
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@VoxOfGod Modern humans have inhabited the region for an estimated 120,000 years. Before that, there were other hominids. The oldest remains are dated at 1.5 million years.
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