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Isn’t Cuba actually nowadays improving LGBTQ+ rights?
Yes. They even have state provided gender affirming care.
hello, based department? didn’t know that.
maybe it’s time for queer people to unironically consider living in cuba…
Unfortunately the US is determined to make life hell for Cubans. The blockade has gotten worse and they’re being deprived of fuel and other necessities. Hell they can’t even get enough syringes for the covid vaccine they developed because of the blockade. So despite great advances in LGBTQ rights they are going to be starved out or possibly invaded in the near future.
I feel like China and the EU should collaborate to supply Cuba. As well as all Latin America.
I think Mexico is still providing them fuel but I can’t recall if they’ve been blocked from doing so atm. But yeah more countries should provide aid. I fear America will take a note from Israel’s playbook and block aid getting in similar to how aid is blocked from getting into Gaza
according to tankies from .ml, cuba is a socialist workers paradise where everything goes well all the time, no one is unhappy, and they have complete and utter democratic freedom, and fidel did nothing wrong.
not sure I believe it.
OK yeah but the user just asked if Cuba is improving LGBTQ+ rights (Sounds like they very much have).
according to tankies from .ml, cuba is a socialist workers
Yes
paradise where everything goes well all the time, no one is unhappy
Obviously not, and this is just bad faith. Not even the tankiest tankie would argue this, and it also deflects from the causes of why things are bad in Cuba (hint: it’s got a lot more to do with their neighbour than anything they’re doing)
complete and utter democratic freedom
Complicated, I’d also say no, but this kind of statement is meant to imply that it’s some kind of totalitarian nightmare, which is ridiculous since it’s a massive improvement on the regime before it and also pretty easy to argue more democratic than, again, the country that this criticism is being made from.
If you have genuine arguments about why things in Cuba are bad, why not make those instead of the flimsiest possible strawman?
If you have genuine arguments about why things in Cuba are bad, why not make those instead of the flimsiest possible strawman?
Because they are out there posting shit like “one party authoritarian states are democratic”
Idk, I’m not gonna read the whole discussion very carefully so maybe I’m missing something, but I’m not sure why you think that having multiple political parties is identical to being democratic? To me democracy is about how individuals can actually have a say in a decision making process, and about how the will of the people is expressed in government policy and the law. I don’t see any reason why electing representatives within a party is necessarily any less democratic than having multiple parties.
Given the numerous studies that show how badly the policies of, really any western country except maybe a few tiny social democratic ones, actually reflect what people want (and even the nordics aren’t doing so hot on that front the last few years) I don’t really see how we can feel so superior about anything really.
ok, let’s get on the same page
Do you think people in North Korea are in a free, functioning democracy?
I know very little about North Korea so I’m not willing to make any claims about it either way. I can tell you I don’t believe that western media or organisations will ever give accurate information about it, so I don’t buy many of the stories you hear. I’m also not saying that does make it democratic. We were talking about Cuba though.
In the interest of getting on the same page therefore, do you think people in the USA/Anglosphere or Europe are in free, functioning democracies?
I can tell you I don’t believe that western media or organisations will ever give accurate information about it, so I don’t buy many of the stories you hear.
what about independent journalists that go there and are restricted from gathering information?
In the interest of getting on the same page therefore, do you think people in the USA/Anglosphere or Europe are in free, functioning democracies?
The people in those places live in places that have had their mechanisms examined and reported on by outside parties, and are seen in various reports and rankings. This similar lack of transparancy in NK is what gives weight to the reports of oppression.
However, the .mlites seem to paint cuba, NK etc with the same “everything is fine here” brush, and I am sick of it.
Both sets of places can have their faults; but I am not the one denying obvious things that have been reported on time and time again.
Not even the tankiest tankie would argue this
Lemmygrad would like a word
I mean, even according to the Asher Fergusson indices, Cuba’s been making great advances on LGBTQ+ regards.
Wait, was that the actual, stated reason? That homosexuality was perceived as opulent?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_and_LGBTQ_rights
The duality of man:
Notably, Cuba made some pretty big strides in 2022 by becoming the only ML state where same sex marriage and adoption is legal.
Yup, they’re based. Family went there on vacation, pretty good.
Thanks for the interesting article. Didn’t have an overview before
Authoritarian régimes being authoritarian régimes.
What’s concerning is that I was completely unsure of if this was about current or historic events until I got to the bottom text.
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