President Donald Trump spoke at the Pentagon for the annual Sept. 11 event, but some of his expressions are prompting questions about his health. After large bruises appeared on Trump's hands and his legs swelled as a result of chronic venous insufficiency, observers have been hyper-focused on the p...
      • KnitWit@lemmy.world
        39·
        5 months ago

        Damn, Moves the left hand then looks at the right not move. For a narcissist, trapped in your own body may just be the worst thing.

        • [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish
          32·
          5 months ago

          Since he will never face any consequences for his actions, this is a reasonable second.

          I hope he is suffering every moment of every day.

    • whiwake@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      34·
      5 months ago

      Yes, the real one would be like, Charlie, great guy. Dead. Sad. I remember one time he said mister president, I really look up to you—may I see your collection of master locks?

    • tidderuuf@lemmy.worldBanned
      17·
      5 months ago

      I saw someone mention something about his hands but that was quickly debunked. Was there anything else that proved it to be faked?

      • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
        52·
        5 months ago

        How was it debunked?

        You can clearly see his pinky finger melting into his palm and then his ring finger becoming his new pinky if you play the official video on YouTube at 0.25 speed.

        https://lemmy.world/post/35748353/19324281

        Im not saying the whole video is fake, but there’s definitely something weird about the video

        • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
          50·
          5 months ago

          Likewise, look at the damn article this post is about.

          Trump today does not look like the Trump in that video. Trump, today, looks like he’s had a damn stroke.

          The AI video doesn’t even look like a Trump from this week, and even if its only AI in-part, thats still extraordinarily important and not OK, and any one dismissing this as a “debunked” is normalizing something thats actually a huge fucking deal (way fucking bigger than some shit bird getting shot in the neck).

        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
          21·
          5 months ago

          If you speed up the video, his face is obviously fake.

          When he came back after he disappeared he looked like he had a stroke. I think he’s having many mini strokes making it harder for him to disguise after each one.

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            17·
            5 months ago

            I know we just recently got into a bit of tussle elsewhere, but I think I mostly agree with you here.

            The uh, the ‘morph-cut’, when his hands shift and kinda melt?

            Look above his head when that happens.

            The lighting and shadow on the trees in the background changes.

            Its all one way before that happens, and its all another way after that happens.

            … I think he literally stroked out, while they were filming this, thats why the morph cut is there, and if some body wanted to try to model the scene, the oval office, geopositioned right, with the sun, they could probably estimate how long it was between these two shots they merged together… or timeskipped between.

            I don’t think his face is completely fake, I think it may have some kind of… correction applied to it, to try to minimize the droopiness of … what you can see in his face today, from the 9/11 memorial.

            Sorta like how and instagram filter morphs your face… and a frame stabilization effect tries to keep objects centered and just boink the frame itself around…

            Something like a face stabilization effect, if that makes any sense.

              • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                7·
                5 months ago

                Ah, yeah, just the mouth, that makes more sense.

                Ever see Equilibrium?

                The uh, dear leader… just straight up is a digital construction, got a fake voice and all that too?

                … Too bad gun kata would never work at all in real life…

        • TheRealKuni@piefed.socialEnglish
          17·
          5 months ago

          but there’s definitely something weird about the video

          Sure. Recorded at 24fps and interpolated to 60fps. Lots of weird shit can happen with motion interpolation.

          • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
            11·
            5 months ago

            I’ve played a bit with frame interpretation using open source models. With those models, fast movement did seem to trigger some weird artifacts and glitches that were visible at lower speeds or paused.

            I guess it’s possible that a propietary model is using some other image generation techniques to make those artifacts less noticeable. I think that would still constitute something that should be called out.

            If the issue is with interpretation, then we shouldn’t see this visual glitch in the original footage.

            • Leon@pawb.socialEnglish
              7·
              5 months ago

              YouTube has been doing “AI” stuff to shorts lately. It’s caused a lot of upset among the artists posting stuff as it’s changing their artwork.

              That said, I’ve not seen the video in question so don’t take my comment as anything about that.

        • saigot@lemmy.ca
          13·
          5 months ago

          I have seen some video editors say that it’s shot morphing, a technique to seamless switch from one shot to another or to cut out filler words. I don’t think it’s good to edit shots like this where veracity is important but it’s probably real.

          • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
            11·
            5 months ago

            Maybe. If that’s true, I still say it should be called out and it shouldn’t be accepted as a practice.

        • nialv7@lemmy.world
          3·
          5 months ago

          It’s morphing to hide a cut, it’s used quite often nowadays. Probably Trump fucked up a read and couldn’t be assed to do it again. Infer from that what you will.

        • oOAlteredBeastOo@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 months ago

          I was weirded out by the disappearing finger as well. There was a recent article in The Atlantic that mentioned Google had been testing AI to improve video clarity. It’s possible we are seeing a combination of that and motion interpolation artifacts like what was mentioned here. I used yt-dlp commands to download both the CNN video and the video from the white house channel. They both look less weird on a larger screen. That process was called out here.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
        25·
        5 months ago

        It definitely wasn’t debunked. A justification for how it might have happened was presented but that is in no way a “debunking”.

    • kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      12·
      5 months ago

      After seeing this, I am 100% on the “it was AI” train. They may have used him or even someone else as a sit in to overlay onto. Kinda like MOCAP.

  • Wytch@lemmy.zipEnglish
    172·
    5 months ago

    We all want him gone, I’m just always gonna be sore we won’t ever see him destitute and imprisoned. We shouldn’t have had to rely on the inevitable to rid us of this human parasite.

    • selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works
      66·
      5 months ago

      Maybe he’ll suffer for a few months unable to get out of bed while getting to scroll through posts of death-wishes and people celebrating?

      Would be nicer if he was handcuffed to said bed for the duration though-- for being found guilty of raping children since he is a child rapist who raped kids.

      • ramble81@lemmy.zip
        3·
        5 months ago

        Honestly, that would be worse for us, as they’d continue to invoke his name and say “this is what he wants done” and autopen the shit out of things with us having no recourse to prove otherwise.

        At least if he’s confirmed dead, they can still invoke his name, but it’ll be blunted and it will hopefully put a serious crack, if not break, the cult of personality hold on a lot of MAGAts

    • traches@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      5 months ago

      Honestly I don’t even care about justice anymore I just want the bleeding to stop so we can start healing

  • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
    78·
    5 months ago

    I wanna see the fucker go down like a sack of potatos mid self-aggrandizing rant and the bonk of his head off the podium to be sampled into a thousand ebm tracks

  • fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk
    76·
    5 months ago

    Sorry to upset people thinking of him dieing soon, but they’re going to sit him in a gold throne, kept barely alive, in suspended animation, then keep him alive and in charge for 40,000 years.

    They’ll use AI every time they want him to “say something”.

        • Aspharr@lemmy.world
          10·
          5 months ago

          I think I’d personally join up with Khorne. I’m not much for violence or rage, but I feel like he offers a pretty straightforward deal compared to the other gods. No shenanigans, no chance of becoming a spawn as long as I do what I’m supposed to, and although he’s not gonna protect me he also isn’t gonna backstab me.

          Maybe I can forge weapons or something while blasting Amon Amarth? I feel like that’s Khorne enough.

    • PhilipTheBucket@piefed.socialEnglish
      26·
      5 months ago

      Absolutely not. It’ll be much better for all concerned if he mentally deteriorates while he’s still physically well, so that he’s acting like a lost grandpa at press conferences, visibly shitting himself, forgetting what’s going on in interviews and not even being able to cover it as well as he currently does his forgetting-what’s-going-on-and-covering-it, all that stuff.

      Let it play out to do as much undoing as possible to the cult of “Trump can do no wrong” because they’re trying to double down to their friends and family about how he definitely didn’t just spend five minutes yelling about “the Japs” and drooling when he was talking to reporters or something. That would be my wish, at least.

    • ZorsithEnglish
      17·
      5 months ago

      Id rather it be immediate and public. Just keels the fuck over on live TV out of nowhere so we can move on quickly.

  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
    52·
    5 months ago

    Can’t wait to see trump wearing sunglasses and going everywhere with Hegseth and RFK Jr. propping him up as they walk around and pretend to have him whisper things in their ear that they relay to us.

    They’ll probably just be boring and use AI, but I’m still hoping for a Weekend at Bernie’s.

  • peoplebeproblems@midwest.socialEnglish
    43·
    5 months ago

    So what happens to project 2025 when the mouth piece responsible for Trump’s Gen Z support dies, Trump dies, and VP Couch Fucker becomes president?

    I don’t see a lot of people putting up with the Heritage Foundation’s bullshit if the snake is rattleless and headless.

    • bthest@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      5 months ago

      The question is whether the democrats will actually meaningfully act to undo any of project 2025. The way they act now it seems like it’s coin flip on whether or not they’ll continue it themselves.

      I mean, they’re going to want to win over those same voters once Trump is gone so they don’t really have much reason to not have hard shift to the right.

      • hector@lemmy.today
        8·
        5 months ago

        Dems crave the approval of the right and have spite for the left, embarrassed at any support they get from the left.

        Without new dems we will not find out newsom will lose or have it taken from him and after 2028 it will be fixed up tight(er.)

  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish
    35·
    5 months ago

    He had a stroke. COVID infected in at his age have double the chances of stroke later on.

    He can talk to Charlie about how karma is a bitch.

          • Marshezezz
            7·
            5 months ago

            Double post for you cos I just remembered, if you really do want to get into it, start with the tarot and understanding that. It is basically the key to it all. Once you understand the symbolism in it and why then it all becomes a lot more clear. It’s essentially a story that you learn that is sort of a “quest” so to speak that you go on. It’s weird at first but it all comes together. The occult is basically Zen Buddhism but with western symbolism so that it resonates better

  • drhodl@lemmy.world
    33·
    5 months ago

    It shits me that the orange plague is going to die in comfort, surrounded by expensive doctors easing his symptoms. The pedophile cunt deserves ALL the suffering in the world, after the harm he has caused to humanity !