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Me too! Fascists deserve bullets!
well the erika is too, she dint shed a single tear, and was selling MERCH at his funeral, plus the "memorial was a political rally for trump. Also the fact that she WORE WHITE too.
He is being turned into a martyr for the cause. Schools and streets will be named after him soon.
trump, and the gop is doing everything in thier power to do 3 things: distract from epstein, grift from the stupid voters, buying thier merchandise(especially at the funeral), shore up domestic alt-right support(must keep the propaganda going somehow), while not acknowledging the shooter was more right wing than he was.
You’re a piece of shit
Behold: A snowflake.
Nah just not a psychopath like you people who think just because some idiot on the right questions DEI hiring of pilots it means he deserves death for it. Enjoy being a miserable person.
Get fucked loser. I hope all the Nazis die. Go cry to your fuher about it.
I’m Jewish btw you racist fuck. Didn’t think you were allowed to assume things. So funny how the second you disagree with one thing you get labeled a Nazi. So many brain cells in this one.
Jews can be Nazis, too - go ask your dear pal “Bibi.”
Immediately assumes because I’m Jewish I support Netanyahu. Congratulations on being racist.
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Criticizing a jewish dude for anything = racist, checks out.
Being Jewish isn’t a shield against being ignorant, ffs.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews
I’m Jewish btw you racist fuck.
Damn, that’s some nice bait you got there. In one line, you, accused people of being racist despite not even knowing what race you are, while simultaneously impling that Jews can’t be Nazis. Not only that, you first baselessly accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being a racist, then also accuse them calling anyone who disagrees with them a Nazi.
It seems like you’re just here to troll, but I’m up to give you the benefit of the doubt nonetheless.
Charlie Kirk was an awful person. Being glad that an awful person is dead does not make someone “a piece of shit” or “a psychopath,” unless you consider the vast majority of humanity to fall into one of those categories. How many people celebrated Osama bin Laden’s death? Was every one of those people, “a piece of shit,” and “a psychopath?”
This moral grandstanding about violence is something I did when I was younger and it came from a place of privilege. I had no enemies, I wished no harm on anyone, anywhere. Because why would I? Any fight I came across, I had the potential to simply walk away. Pacifism is an easy position to hold when your life is secure.
But not everyone has the ability to walk away like that. For some people, it’s an existential struggle with nowhere to run and no chance of mercy through surrender. Those people are, most likely going to feel that they do have enemies, people who they’d be glad to see gone. The way you’re judging people so severely for that, I have to question whether you’ve first made an attempt to actually understand their perspective, or whether you’re only considering your own experience.
There are some people who remain committed to pacifism and nonviolence even when under serious threat. They’re very courageous, and often more than a little crazy, but they earn my respect. For every one of them, there’s a bunch more people who use the term to claim moral superiority over everyone based on living in a (literal or metaphorical) gated community, where violence is neither useful nor tempting. Where, rather than nonviolence being a difficult sacrifice, it’s more like an excuse to ignore the plight of those with backs against the wall and condemning them for struggling for survival in a morally impure way.
You strike me as the latter. Maybe I’m wrong, but if the shoe fits, wear it. And, just fyi, nonviolent shit will get you killed.
I’m Jewish btw
you get labeled a Nazi.
So? Netanyahu is a nazi jew as well, move there, you’ll be right at home.
Jewish doesnt make you Holier than thou, in fact current events makes you the actual perpetrator in situations like this.
You weren’t called a nazi. Shut the fuck up.
Why would you smear Charlie like this? He died protecting our 2nd amendment rights, a noble sacrifice just like he said we need, and by showing any empathy, you’re doing a lot of damage.
You are absolutely a psychopath for supporting monsters like Kirk.
Says the person who supports murdering people
Cry some more, troll
No one is crying here but you because I disagree with people who think others should be killed for their opinions
No need - you’re doing it for them. Wish I could be a fly on the wall at the inevitable moment your hypocritical “perspectives” come back to bite you in the ass something fierce. I’m quite certain it will be about as amusing as when it happened to Kirk.
Death cult.
I’m glad you recognize what you’ve become part of. It’s a step in the Reich direction.
Yeah, we can see that’s what you’re in. Thanks for acknowledging it.
Do you understand your opponent’s argument well enough to phrase it in words they would agree with? Because this seems like a gross mischaracterization that leads me to think you’re either ignorant of why someone would be happy he’s dead, or you’re deliberately lying.
So give it a try… why would a rational person actually be glad Kirk is dead? You can disagree with the reasons, but if you can’t even ARTICULATE them, I’d argue you’re the one who is either an idiot or a psychopath.
I will not celebrate his death, but I can’t muster up any sympathy for the fact he can’t spread this disgusting, hate-filled vitriol anymore.
If you think he was anything but a net negative to society, corrupting young minds and fostering vile ideologies, you can kindly go fuck yourself.
I am not happy he was killed, but I will not mourn a virulent fascist.
Hilarious how the people saying he was a fascist are themselves the fascists. If you don’t think exactly like them, be an automaton, you are excommunicated. No where was he trying to force his beliefs on people. He had opinions and that was it. Albeit many of them stupid, but only opinions at the end of the day.
Okay, let’s talk. Can you define ‘fascist’ for me?
What is fascism?
e: I had asked people not to downvote my interlocutor in order to foster conversation, but nevermind; this isn’t going anywhere.
A fascist to me is someone, like the literal Nazis (and not just the hyperbolic use of the word today), who (by force [very important context]) wanted to enact their beliefs and doctrine. I didn’t see Charlie going around to campuses and forcibly ending people who disagree with him or trying to put people into camps for thinking differently than him.
Okay, thanks.
But a fascist by definition (not our own personal meaning, but the actual meaning) is:
‘a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement’
and that’s how I was using it. By that definition, which is the standard definition, Charlie Kirk was a fascist. He would have agreed with all of those things: he was far-right, authoritarian, and ultra-nationalist. (e: and I can give you examples in his own words where he proudly agreed with those things)
So, I am using the actual definition, where you are using your own personal definition.
Now, can you explain how I am a fascist?
That is one part of the definition and isn’t including the important part that the reason it’s authoritarian is by its use of force to enact its beliefs.
My comment about those throwing around the term fascist being the fascist wasn’t directed at you and was broadly applicable to the people who are (by force) trying to silence anyone who disagrees with them.
He was literally the leader of the new Hitler Juggen. Not every Nazi killed people. They just accepted it and cheered it on. The Nazis didn’t start out slaughtering everyone they put into camps. It was their final solution. and only after massive incompetence on every other front.
If you are Jewish and you do not understand modern Republicans and the Trump administration in particular for what they are. You must be quite the cultural disappointment. That you have no problem defending Trump or his enablers. But don’t agree with Bibi Netanyahu. Is some really fucked up cognitive dissonance that you need to address in yourself.
Please show where I supported Trump or even Charlie for that matter? You people are just making up assumptions left and right. This is hilarious. I merely said someone with different opinions shouldn’t be killed for them. But apparently most everyone here is in a death cult who want anyone who disagrees with them to be silenced. I’m a LibSoc, anarchist btw.
A fascist to me…
Lol this guy doesn’t know what fascism is
14 Signs of Fascism:
- The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
- The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.” 3.The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
- Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
- Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
- Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
- The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
- The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
- Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
- Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
- Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
- Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
- Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
- Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”
It’s only fascism once it’s fully successfully enacted. Constantly telling the world the clear intention of establishing a fascist dictatorship, and even publishing a document that defines what it looks like specifically doesn’t count. That’s just called “disagreeing”.
-Fucking morons
Something something sparkling conservatism.
So what was Mein Kampf then?
No. You.
Waaaah waaah fox news told me all lefties are soft and scared and easy to bully, they aren’t allowed to say mean things about US, this is bullshit I’m going to hide under mommies skirt
All the leftists I know watched ol kirky get aerated on repeat and MST3K’d that shit. Guess we’re just tougher and less empathetic than your pansy republican ass, just like he would’ve wanted
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Using the term “pussy” to denigrate someone is misogynistic btw
Nope, the insult is non-gendered and predates the use of the word as crude anatomical slang; it literally means ‘scaredy-cat’
That’s illogical. That’s like saying the word Gay has no connection to homosexuality, and shouldn’t be connected as such, because it originally meant happy. The person used the term “pussy” in a misogynistic manner. And no where in history did the term originate as “scaredy-cat”. It simply meant cat.
The word ‘pussy’ as a pejorative predates its use as a slang for female genitalia. It actually originates from ‘pussycat’, as comparing a person to a jumpy and easily scared feline. Any misogyny attached to it is extremely recent and performative.
Man, you’re all over this thread not knowing what words mean.
It’s not misogynistic, but this one does have that root:
Stop being a cunt. (And I say that as a woman.)
The person used the term “pussy” in a misogynistic manner.
Their comment is gone, so maybe they did, maybe they didn’t, I can’t see it, but simply calling someone a pussy as an insult is not misogynistic, because the insult has nothing to do with women.
And no where in history did the term originate as “scaredy-cat”. It simply meant cat.
Fair that I shouldn’t have used the word ‘literally’ there; as an insult it means coward, prior to which it meant (small) cat, thus carrying the same meaning as ‘scardey-cat’; it is an insult against someone’s courage by analogy to a cat’s skittishness
Who gives a shit? I wouldn’t care even if it was.
no u
Proverbs 11:10:
When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices; when the wicked perish, there are shouts of joy.
That’s a circlejerk. Everybody believes that they are on the good side.
That’s a circlejerk. Everybody believes that they are on the good side.
- Hitler
Please elaborate.
I think whoever does evil thinks of the wrong people as good. Most will simply reject everybody as bad who opposes them.
So the sentiment is true but it doesn’t work as personal advice.
Hitler is an obvious example of someone who might have thought they are good and doing a good thing, but his death was celebrated by good people.
Because being good is mostly an outside measurement and not an inside assessment by the person, therefore your point is nonsensical.
By your point republicans celebrated the attack on Pelosi and her husband, those are not good people however you slice it.
So if Hitler’s grandma gave him that advice and he followed it, would he have done what he did?
Good people celebrated his death, but the personal advice doesn’t work because we personally decide what is good. We distort goodness to what we need, which is fatal if we are on an evil path.
It is not an objective, outside measurement, but it is sold as such, specifically because it makes good people do evil things for the good side.
Really dumb take, and simply not true. Plenty of bad people know they are doing wrong, and they do it anyway, because they want what they want, and they are going to get it. Every criminal knows they doing wrong, that’s why they try to hide it.
Every criminal knows they doing wrong, that’s why they try to hide it.
That’s also not really true. They can very well believe, that what they do is okay but they know that the law says otherwise. They hide because they want to avoid punishment, not because they feel that what they do is wrong (From their point of view)
Yes they do. Unless they are truly insane, and think they are killing someone because they are possessed or something, they absolutely know they are breaking the law. They may feel they are justified in breaking the law, that the law, or society owes them somehow, but they still know they are breaking the law.
Criminals often feel justified in their actions, that’s how they internally reconcile and justify their unlawful behavior, but they still know that it is wrong, at least in the eyes of society. They are just willing to risk any punishment that might follow because they want something so badly, and they aren’t willing to do whatever it takes to earn it legally.
But there is a difference between thinking you broke the law and thinking you did wrong. I am saying the latter does not necessarily happen in criminals
I don’t condone what happened to Charlie Kirk, but Charlie Kirk condoned what happened to Charlie Kirk.
He wanted public executions and for kids to watch it.
Ironic that we all got to watch his, whether we wanted to or not.
Deliciously ironic. Not condoning it! But boy, is it rich! Not condoning. But lolol.
he was unaware he was calling for his own, by someone further right from his own party.
People often use the word “Ironic” wrong. A person who encourages gun violence, dying of gun violence, is a perfect example of true irony.
It’s like a bulleeeeeeet in the neck when all you needed was a fork
I’m further insulted by the fact this person got such a platform to spout off absolute trash.
So many welcoming arms 😡
like shapiro, crowder, CANDACE owens, and others. they are propped up by Putin, through a SHell corporation. it isnt by accident, also plus the amount bots/AI to spread thier edited Videos on Youtube. they are essentially the “rabble rousers” of the gop.
The gall for this piece of shit to have called another person unintelligent or sociopathic, holy fuck. No tears will be shed by me.
You can see him distort his face even to make some of his claims. I couldn’t watch past several seconds. That doesn’t strike me as being confident. Though he clearly wanted to say those things. Real piece of trash.
Holy God man. I expected it to be bad and it was so much worse.
I do understand saying deliberately wrong things just to get attention, and I think assassinating anybody is a horrifying and wrong thing to do, but out of all the variety, the thing about Clarence Thomas being greater than MLK Jr makes me want to go punch his corpse in the face.
It is even worse. That clip at the end where he says “it’s worth it”, was in response to school shootings.
Whatever is in them files has to be world ending levels of shit for them to be doing all this. Like they’re riding this assassination to DEATH and trying so hard to further divide us and distract us.
Yep, Patel is covering for him
I have audio but the video looks like this
Weirdly it’s an issue with the connect app with that link as well. If I open in browser it’s fine.
Yeah, Idk. Maybe a weird filter from 9gag’s side? I couldn’t find that clip anywhere else, which is also really strange.
I think it may be my phone as I sometimes have similar issues with photo thumbnails if I take them with open camera instead of the stock camera app. Maybe I have a weird screen resolution or something.
Im using connect and it works just fine. The only oddity is that there is no thumbnail.
It’s always so funny to see someone squirm under oath. They don’t dare lie, but they’ll do anything but tell the truth. Just lie at that point dude, reciting the alphabet to avoid answering is just sad.
I’m an atheist. I see ‘demonic’ things. It’s the religious white supremacy Americans. It goes against everything Christianity stands for. Spreading hate, indoctrination, racism, misogyny, child abuse, deportations, violence, crimes against humanity, etc. They don’t even know what, their own religion is about. These people are just pure evil and justify everything they say and do by a fictional man in the sky.
Didn’t Christians talk about false prophets and the devil pretending to be holy?
I keep putting it off, but I’m creating an LLC so I can start a damn church.
I can’t get a fucking job to save my life, so why not just profit from the ignorance and stupidity of the lumpenproletariat?
My time is now.
Like L. Ron Hubbard (founder of scientology [pukes in my mouth]) once said: “You don’t get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.”
Founder of Scientology, who said this a few years before starting Scientology, while he was still publishing as a science fiction author.
The messed up dumb lying idiot he was, he did follow his own advice and made millions.
So… He did one thing right I guess… Sort of… For himself I mean… The narcissistic abusive piece of shit that he is. “It’s going to ruin some people their lives but I’m going to be richt and powerful so it’s worth it right?”
What can I say, he followed his own advice and proved himself right.
Wyoming is supposedly a good state for LLCs, for tax and privacy reasons. Delaware is so overdone, it’s suspicious.
Good luck!
Rooting for ya, bud
They did. Several hundred years ago. Then it fell out of fashion.
As someone who was raised Christian and considers myself one, I think Christianity has a few fundamental philosophical flaws (every religion does).
The major issue is hinging everything on an abstract ideal of faith. Under Christian doctrine one can only get into heaven by believing in Jesus. He is the only path to salvation.
This creates a mk Oral quandry. Could the worst person in the world beleive that Jesus is their Lord and Saviour and get into heaven? Perhaps not, they must also aspire to live a Christ-like life, and the worst person likely isn’t doing that.
Let’s instead imagine the most Christ-like and righteous person in the world. What if they don’t believe in Jesus? According to Christian doctrine, they will burn in hell for eternity.
If this is the case, what’s the point of living a good life? Can’t we all just believe in Jesus and just coast through life being morally ambiguous and still make it into heaven in the end?
What you end up with is a religion where it starts to feel like only one thing matters - do you believe in Jesus? It doesn’t take long before moral principles are thrown out the window and people start judging others less so by their thoughts, words and deeds but instead by just how much they beleive in Jesus.
Other religions have their flaws but particularly Eastern religious philosophy at least attempts to tackle how to live a good life a bit more directly.
The deeper you go into the Christianity, the more obsessive it becomes about faith and the less concerned it is with how to live a good life.
Which is pretty warped if you think about it - shouldn’t the whole point of religion be to learn how to live well?
What I think is flawed with the religious MAGA is that they forget one of the biggest fundamental thing of christianity: forgiveness. They don’t care about that. They just use their religion as a basis for their hatred towards others so they can create their perfect world. It’s like they only want to be a good christian if the setting is up to their standards. And they are willing to do anything to reach that setting, no cost is too great. Christian values only apply when you’re dealing with other Christians. When they aren’t Christian (exactly the way you want them to be, like white cis hetero) you can dehumanize them and do whatever you want to them with a clear conscience. Like, how fucked up are these people?
Religion is a way to show people how to live. Many people need it so they don’t have to think about it themselves. They need the structure. Sure, I can understand, even though I think it’s dumb. Why the need to believe in something unnatural, a fantasy, to know how to live like a proper human and how to treat others? But ok, sure some people need that apparently. But MAGA does that only selectively, whatever fits their agenda. It’s the same with pseudo-science. Instead of trying to find ways to destroy your theory (and if that fails, the theory becomes more solid) they try to find ways to support their theory while neglecting the rest. This is nitpicking. That’s not how it works.
Either you’re a christian or you’re not. You can’t be half christian and use it as support for your actions, while your actions go against everything christianity stands for. Same goes for other religions of course. But there are always extremists who abuse it. Whether it’s a religion, a system, whatever.
Which is pretty warped if you think about it - shouldn’t the whole point of religion be to learn how to live well?
Surely not the whole point, since you don’t need religion to do that. This is a question that philosophy has been tackling for thousands of years.
One big problem that I see is people neglecting the good life on earth for their anticipated good life in heaven. Why bother trying to live well on earth when you’re only going to be here for a short time, and you’ll have an eternity of living well in heaven?
Let’s instead imagine the most Christ-like and righteous person in the world. What if they don’t believe in Jesus? According to Christian doctrine, they will burn in hell for eternity.
That’s not just a moral failing of judgementalism over actual morals, but a logical inconsistency
This guy disagreed with that tradition and tried to reset his church toward empathy, care, morality
Francis’ words are a departure from traditional Christian dogma which is that those who know of Christ and do not become Christian are choosing not to believe in him and are destined for damnation. Its why the church takes spreading the word so seriously, to the point of seeming aggressive at times, because those that are sharing the message feel that they are quite literally saving you.
There’s a reason a spokesperson immediately intervened with
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Pretty much what I expected tbh. Surprised it wasn’t worse
Almost all of the people paying tribute to him didn’t care at all about him a couple weeks ago will stop caring about him completely in a few weeks.
Bingo. At least not beyond the tragedy of a young person dying.
To steal the term: ‘virtue signaling’
Eh, I’d wager alot of these people got seduced by self-righteous outrage. It makes people feel good about themselves.
jesus christ it just keeps going…and going…and going
And that is the tip of the iceberg because Seneca could have put together a series-worth of hate quotes from Kirk. He spent years and years spreading hate, fear, and stochastic terrorism.
Good riddance.
Conservative Talking Head “Charlie Kirk had the views of any mainstream Republican”
Clip show of Charlie Kirk saying hateful things
Yeah, he sure did.
In Polish we ask “co mu strzeliło do głowy”* when someone voices stupid ideas and it think its beautiful.
*literally “what has shot into his head”
In German we ask those people “Hast du Lack gesoffen?”
Literal translation: Did you drink varnish? (Large amounts are somewhat implied)
To that end I highly recommend “Moscow-Petushki”.
Well… Neck. Close enough?
“co mu strzeliło do głowy”*
I really need to know how to say this properly.
https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=co+mu+strzeliło+do+głowy&op=translate
Click the little speaker icon on the polish side and you can hear how it’s pronounced.
Passable rendition.
Same
Frequently wrong, never in doubt.
