• MissJinx@lemmy.world
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      FTFY: “When you say you don’t like linux and Mexicans and that black ppl should go back to africa”

    • three@lemmy.zipBannedOP
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      So cool, I love that marker you put on me. Makes it easier to round up people you don’t like ;)

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          Man, I don’t like MAGA either. I think they represent pretty much everything that’s wrong with society today…

          But for a community that talks so often about disliking echo chambers, it really seems like most Lemmy users want an echo chamber.

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            Lemmy has everything from libs to anarchists to tankies. If that’s an echo chamber I think I’ll survive without fascist voices in the mix. The North Korea apologists are bad enough.

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              That’s fair, I can definitely understand that position and agree with you on the NK apologists.

              From my point of view, I think it’s more productive to interact with people I disagree with, in the (possibly naive) pursuit of changing their minds. If people are kicked out for their views, I’d imagine many of them will just double down and act like a martyr.

              To be clear, I’m not saying we shouldn’t call these people out and downvote them – that’s why that function exists right? But maybe once in a while, something that we argue will resonate with them.

              Of course there are limits to that approach, and this all hinges on the other person arguing in good faith. Based on the OP’s post history, I’ll admit that I may be barking up the wrong tree in this case.

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                I honestly think there’s essentially zero chance of any argument resonating with someone who identifies as MAGA at this point.

                I’d say there’s more danger to letting them into spaces to push hateful shit than there is benefit in the moonshot chance that one of them might hear an argument that resonates.

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                  See, I’m torn. On one hand, I feel like this ‘us vs. them’ mentality contributes to the sort of tribalism that ultimately results in movements like MAGA popping up. If these people can only operate in MAGA-friendly spaces, they’ll rarely speak to anyone who disagrees with them, and will have no reason to reflect on their worldview.

                  Then I read the news. If current events aren’t enough to convince them that they’re misguided, I’m not sure that anything will.

                  I’m not sure I know what the solution is, but it’s been an interesting discussion.

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                That’s an optimistic perspective and I feel like we need more optimism these days. And maybe sometimes people do change their minds on things with social media discussions, though I think it’s already a difficult medium to work with.

                For maga shit though, those people are basically cultists, and from what I understand it’s pretty much impossible to get people out of a cult without a personal connection helping them.

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        Man, nobody can put “a target” on you for something you say on a public forum that people get mad about.

        You guys want freedom of speech? Freedom of speech is also getting shit on online for something you say. You have a right to speak, not a right to be liked.

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        Awwww, is the widdle MAGAt upset they can’t blend into the crowd and lie about why they received mean messages?

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        Must feel great then for this to be the top level comment and everyone seeing through your bullshit :) <3. Makes it easier for people to know to avoid you, while you pretend like you’re not actively rounding up people who aren’t the same color as you <3.

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        Aww man. I’ve been searching for someone who consistently gets more downvotes than upvotes and you were so close. Keep it up!

        (Seriously this is a thing I do. I’m not kidding you. Every time I see someone with an incredibly bad take I look at their profile for this. I’m trying to see if those kinds of people eventually get tired and stop commenting, stay mostly silent, or what)

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      I’m genuinely laughing out loud, such a wild comment out of left field caught me totally off guard. I don’t think I’ve seen such stupid malice in actual years

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    Anyone who has this strong of a reaction to something so inconsequential must be a deeply unhappy person. It sucks to suck.

    Also, anyone who calls someone a ‘fag’ is a complete fucking moron. I doubt things will improve for them with so few brain cells to work with.

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    Jesus christ! What the hell is wrong with people???

    I’m on ZorinOS, but I gotta say, this is the dark ages of PC. Windows is full on dog shit, Mac always has been expensive as fuck, and Linux just doesn’t have the userbase to rely on companies making their programs available for the format.

    On top of that linux has ALWAYS has had a very terminal based culture.

    I’ve always said and continue to believe that linux CAN BE good for the average nontech minded folk. The way this happens is Flatpak becomes the dominant format in program installation. Terminal doesn’t have to change, it can still be used exactly as it is, but it takes a backseat in terms of how the system is presented to newbies.

    If I look up how to fix X problem on linux, I should by default find a GUI based solution. YOU can still use terminal to do whatever you do. I myself don’t get it. The average user doesn’t get it. I find solutions online. They say “Put this command in terminal”. I do that, it goes as expected. And then “ok, now run these commands” and the first few go as expected. And then it will spit out some error that I don’t understand. “ERROR THE L LISTS AREN’T COMBOBULATED TO THE FCAP COMPORRIUM” or some shit. What the hell??? What am I supposed to do with that??? So you copy the error, ask online what it means, and they say “Oh, your L Lists just need to be updated to the new repository. Just sync your flabarts to the chukchuk.”

    And thats about the time I lose my temper and decide to just get really drunk and watch the big bang on over the air tv, because what the hell does any of this matter anyways if I can’t even install a simple program, and update some drivers?

    Now. Let’s rewind. What if linux, regardless of distro had the same flatpak store, the same interface for it, and some under the hood settings that are standard across the board? The rest of the distro can be whatever, but you should have a reliable way to change and update basic shit.

    And for those of you like the guy in this threads photo, who are going to bombard me with death threats and insults, just consider this. People have been saying Windows is unusable dog shit since the 90s. Mac has always been unaffordable for most people. And Linux is free, and supposedly 1000% more stable in every way. Yet last time I looked, Linux, on the rise, had an all time high user base sharehold of 5.49% of the PC market. If you think I’m wrong, explain why Linux isn’t not just the leader, but the dominant leader. Being free AND better should make it the obvious choice, but it’s clearly not. There’s a reason for that. And it’s terminal.

    Right now we’re living in the dark ages of PCs. We got windows at it’s all time worst, mac expensive as always, and linux still pushing users away by far.

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    I really learned to appreciate the Linux people after meeting the FOSS crowd. These people literally make me want to pay for software.

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        There is definitely an overlap but I think Linux users are more like vegetarians, they cut out the commercial OS from their diet and are content with that. FOSS people are more like militant vegans … they won’t be happy unless everyone else has to use the shitty software they do.

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              But veganism isn’t widely accepted as a virtue, so who are we supposedly signaling to by being combative?

              Edit: also you apparently agree that veganism is a virtue?

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                “is veganism a virtue”

                sounds like a topic for a debate

                like, it certaily is on paper, from a moral standpoint of causing less harm to the environmant

                but “the environmant” is a really vague term. After all, by not allowing John Flesheater have his steak, you’re still technically harming an animal, just morally this time :D (and possibly in terms of health a bit, if there are some kind of external dietary limitations in a given local region)

                Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.

                But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”

                I think veganism is a vanity that we can afford given the right circumstances, that some cultures also try to dress up as a virtue. So if one derives joy or piece of mind from it, they shoule do it as long as they do.

                oof sorry, not coming drunk to lemmy again :D

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                  Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.

                  Pure cope. We know how badly animals are hurt by factory farming methods, and there isn’t a non-factory method that I’m aware of that can meet the demand for meat.

                  But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”

                  How do I know you’ve ever been happy? I’ve never seen it, so I can assume you haven’t, right? (This is how nonsensical your argument sounds. We can see farm animals get excited about things the experience, like happy cows skipping to their field)

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                  judging by the depth of reasoning of my opponents so far, veganism is not only not a virtue, it’s a cope of the fact that ahy life form is inherenly cruel towards the other in a system with limited resources.

                  I’d like to be dabated tho, cuz it sounds kinda not nice.

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          i mean, there are degrees to everything

          Just a year or two ago I would’ve said that i don’t even understand why linux exists. Now i’d rather say that windows should stop being a thing asap, as it brings nothing but problems and stagnation to consumer electronics, and nowadays it goes the same for any major proprietary software piece.

          What can i say, i hope the era of corpos is nearing its end, and we’re the witnesses

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            Oh, I totally agree with that. I like Linux/FOSS.

            It’s the people that post about it online that are insufferable.

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              currently

              we’re the people

              or at least i am :D

              also, how would others know about all that cool free stuff that i found, that’s actually cooler that the paid one 🥺🥺🥺

              foss doest have any marketing budgets, so of course foss users would blabber about it all over the place.

              so, like, seriously, what’s the alternative here?

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          Linux users are more like vegetarians, they cut out the commercial OS from their diet and are content with that

          Have you been on Lemmy, sir?

          Using FOSS is like the first step towards using the FOSS OS.