• Rothe@piefed.socialEnglish
    49·
    5 months ago

    Except they only post about their imaginary heroics on the internet, and then sit back on their couch doing nothing.

  • ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
    39·
    5 months ago

    This is a tangent but, I find it baffling that Americans are one of the most tolerant democracies of abuses of power against common citizens and corruption. Their country was founded precisely to stop both. Their constitution was almost utopian for the time, writing about the irrefutable rights a human has. And look at it now, capitalism and oligarchs have trashed their country. They lack even basic infrastructure such as health care, transportation a functional education system, etc. All for the benefit of rich people who can bypass the broken country by buying normal services and amenities, while less fortunate people are left to fend for themselves. It is a broken country because only nobility can afford human-worthy living standards there. The nobility and oligarchy in the USA are so very effectively blocking the country from having infrastructure that every other civilised country on planet earth has had for decades or even centuries. How the american middle class could let this happen is baffling.

    • applebuschEnglish
      16·
      5 months ago

      The direct answer to your question is that it’s a deep rooted cultural problem that has been with us since the beginning. The problem is the culture of extreme individualism and anti-intellectualism. People want to be completely free and unrestricted in their behavior, whether that harms others or not. Ultimately the desire for the freedom to harm others with impunity is what leads to where we are now. The rich want to be able to exploit their workers harder, men want to be able to beat and rape their wives and control their entire life, pedophiles (see endless stream of republican pedophilia controversies) want everyone to make more babies for them to rape, landlords want to take all your money for the privilege of having a place to sleep, every company that sells goods or services wants to fleece you, and all of these assholes want to have zero consequences for their actions. They gaslight the normies into distrusting the scientists, the educated, the compassionate, because they would actually help people. It’s not even about greed really, it’s about the ultimate extreme of personal freedom. Money just makes you more free.

      So why haven’t we done anything? People have, there’s just a lot of people who want this to happen. A lot of people would cheer as they send me to the gas chamber. The majority of my extended family probably would.

      I hate this place

      • flambonkscious@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        8·
        5 months ago

        What ever happened to “you have the freedom do do/say what you want but the responsibitly to consider those around you”

        I guess that’s pretty pale when the individualism becomes strong enough that people think they’re the main character

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      5 months ago

      Their country was founded precisely to stop both.

      The state was founded by genocidal enslavers. That’s what it is despite this kind of imperial mythology.

      Their constitution was almost utopian for the time

      For rich pale skinned bros.

      How the american middle class could let this happen is baffling.

      Always has been and it’s not very baffling if you have a realistic understanding of history, colonialism, genocide/slavery, capitalism, etc.

          • SCmSTREnglish
            12·
            5 months ago

            Pick a location.

            Figure out their word.

            Everything they don’t like is that.

            Is this an everywhere thing? Or a certain kinds of people thing?

              • SCmSTREnglish
                2·
                5 months ago

                I wonder what aspects of education fight the tendency, like if there end up being any things that specifically help more than others, or if it’s more like an overall-function thing. Or maybe humility??

                Or what if it’s just an extremely commonly learned behavior that most people just have to unlearn

                • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
                  2·
                  5 months ago

                  I wonder what aspects of education fight the tendency

                  For the individual, mindfulness and instilling a sense of belonging to a global in-group (e.g. “human beings”) is key. Avoid language that directly compares social groups as inherently good vs evil, as that’s where bad things start to creep in. Teaching empathy, critical thinking, nuance, and generally encouraging curiosity are crucial to maintaining this broader world view.

                  At the macro-level, it’s about maintaining that sense that there is no race, country, or populace anywhere that is top-to-bottom “evil.” So we keep educating our peers with counter-examples to bad behaviors, and shed light on lies and rumors when they reinforce negative narratives. Leading by example through charity, empathy, and compassion can help, provided the story gets out. Unfortunately, all this goes up against power structures a lot of the time; these arbitrary divisions and biases get used to great political effect. It’s hard as hell to do.

        • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayBanned
          15·
          5 months ago

          Yeah, that’s standard conservative strategy - you are either with us, or you are aligned with whatever group is the current Boogeyman. AFTER 9/11, you either supported everything the government did, including two unfunded endless wars, or else you were an Al Qaeda Terrorist.

          Today there is a choice. If you don’t support Israel and genocide, you are anti-Semitic and Hamas. If you are against MAGA, you are ANTIFA. If you protest, you are a domestic terrorist.

      • AxExRx@lemmy.world
        1·
        5 months ago

        Wait, part of hamas? I thought the accusation was being in contact with hamas, which the flotilla itself had claimed

        • RushLanaEnglish
          2·
          5 months ago

          The claims are that they were working with/for hamas according to documents they found.

          I didn’t read all the reports and may have missed something but I don’t have the energy to find and debunk Israël claims. The fact remains : you don’t get to drone bomb humanitarian convoys and whatever justification that come afterward is meaningless.

    • vithigar@lemmy.ca
      19·
      5 months ago

      “me at my parents age” is in the future. It’s a hypothetical where Elon has a moon palace, something happened to Greta, and an organised resistance has formed.

  • CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml
    9·
    5 months ago

    Yeah we really Need to wake up and fight. Even alone, like luigi. Make them scared.

    There are People Who can and probably will, but in many platforms(aside here) Like reddit you cant Say this and i think that really slows It down.