Never worry about commie crap like public citations getting in the way of misinformation rhetoric again! (Because the LLM trained on fuckin twitter made it up lmao)

On the flipside for an actually cool non-cucked integration of LLMs with wikipedia check out this post on the localllama where the person shares their project of using a local private llm to search through a local kiwix server instance of wikipedia. https://piefed.social/post/1333130

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      It would be so funny if someone hacks the site and only changes that, and nobody notices for weeks…

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      It’s from a book I love, Robert Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land. The word is the Martian term for fully understanding something.

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        That’s really funny. He steals the name Tesla and Grok and when he tries to come up with his own names, we get “X” and “X Æ A-Xii”

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            Which infuriates me as a LotR fan.

            and also makes me side eye Chris Tolkien hard, cause he is normally very aggressive in protecting the intellectual property…

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              Palantirs were prominently used by Sauron to corrupt and manipulate weaker-willed users, so I have to admit it’s a really apropos use of the name.

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          those are also names of his SONS, whom he doesnt really care about, just to name them, and he has a breeder fetish.

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      I believe it is from the book stranger in a strange land. Its meaning is like to deeeeply understand, I think.

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      Funny you say that. In Serbia, they say the noise a pig makes is “grok”. My wife burst out laughing when she found out the name of Elon’s AI.

      Imagine some Saudi prince launches an AI called Oink, and then sets up Oinkepedia

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      Doesn’t anyone remember groklaw? I feel like sometimes only I remember the early Internet anymore…

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        I fully expect the SCO case to be resurrected at some point in this timeline. Then they’ll know.

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      I always assumed Grok was chosen to hint as his technology background. For which “grok” is a popular term used for reading and understanding, with code in particular.

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    Rather ironic given that wikipedia makes a massive portion of LLM training corpus

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          … I really hoped that this wasn’t a thing, but im not surprised in the least.

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          Its just fucking painful, man.

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            Tge thing with conservapedia is Poe’s law makes it impossible to moderate. A conservative (heh) estimate is that 70% of that site is trolling.

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    If you have to create a wikipedia alternative to stop being fact checked, then maybe you are just fuckin wrong.

    Billionaires: “No, No… I can’t be wrong. I’m Rich! I’ll create a microcosm of information that warps reality to make sure I’m right!”

    Conservapedia: Wait…thats what I was for… what about me?!

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          It just lists facts. You go on there and try putting on a political opinion that isn’t actually facts based you’ll be shut down within seconds.

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            it lists facts based on sources that might be biased.

            the guy is right in that quite a bunch of sources lean center-right.

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            I’ve often said that liberals treat Wikipedia as Holy Scripture, and your comment is exactly that: an assertion that a particular work provides direct access to revelatory Truth. That anything it states is inherently “fact”.

            Every holy book is “just a list of facts” to its believers.

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              Well it says the earth is a sphere so I guess I get where you’re coming from. The problem is you haven’t actually provided any evidence to your claim that it’s some kind of evil liberal bias.

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                I’ll bet Grokipedia states the earth is a sphere too. Does it also “just list facts”?

                I also don’t see you providing any evidence for your claim that Wikipedia “just lists facts”.

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                  The evidence for it is Wikipedia itself. If you have a concrete example of it siting something demonstrably wrong, bring it up, we can examine it here and if you are right, even fix it.

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                  So you’re doing the classic thing of putting the burden of responsibility for your ridiculous claim on to somebody else to disprove. A classic sign of somebody not arguing in good faith.

                  How can I prove that Wikipedia only lists facts since any evidence that I present, you will immediately disregard as untrue because of your preconceived bias.

                  I want you to link to any article, on any subject matter on Wikipedia (in English so we can actually read it, I know that trick) that proves your claim of bias. I genuinely don’t believe you will be able to because if you could provide this evidence, you would have linked to it in your original comment.

                  Your holy scripture arguement doesn’t work because Wikipedia isn’t a fixed source of stated reality, it’s a constantly changing constantly updated website. We know the Bible isn’t objective reality because we’ve had it for a very long time and have been able to test it against known historical accounts, and they don’t match up. Wikipedia on the other hand is updated millions of times a day. Even if an article had some bias, by the end of the first day that bias would have been corrected by someone who didn’t like the bias. But you’re stating that there is a deep rooted institutional bias. I’d like you to indicate it please.

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    Elon is one thing, but the Grok developers have recently done a surprisingly good job at making it neutral and unbiased in matters of opinion, but also allowing it to tell people they’re wrong in matters of fact, which is why there’s so many screenshots around of conspiracy theorists getting shut down by it.

    I can’t say whether this will be the same, but if the devs take “without bias” to actually mean “without bias,” rather than what Elon intends it to mean, it could actually be somewhat useful to filter out obvious promotional content and any small levels of bias.

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      No, the articles are reliably allucinated by Grok… with a sprinkle of editing for making sure the echo chamber is air tight