• Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
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      10 days ago

      Also, wasn’t one of the issues that they searched the backpack on site, no gun.

      Then suddenly, miraculously found a gun in it once they got it to the station?

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      10 days ago

      Let’s be real though. He did it, we know he did it, and Lemmy is just hoping that he can get off on some technicality. I hope he’s convicted because, ya shouldn’t be able to just shoot someone you don’t like. Yes, he shot a scumbag. But that’s a slippery slope because I think lots of people are scumbags, but I don’t shoot them.

      I wanna see Luigi convicted and sentenced to life in prison. But I also want to see insurance execs like the one he shot, convicted and sentenced to life in prison.

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        10 days ago

        Fuck it, I’ll play.

        The police officers failed to inform him of his rights before a custodial interrogation, so use of the information gathered in those 20 minutes in court would violate his rights as an American citizen who is owed a fair trial that follows due process.

        In addition to that, the police officers violated his constitutional rights by searching his possessions without a warrant.

        By convicting him, we allow police officers to act as authoritarian jackboots, with no regard for law or due process. We give up the very rights we fought for in the violent birth of our nation. Some could argue that Luigi was fighting against a similar type of tyranny that our Founding Fathers were in their revolution against British oppression.

        Perhaps he did shoot that CEO in broad daylight. Maybe he didn’t. It doesn’t matter, as convicting him would be surrendering our liberties and that should enrage any patriot.

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          8 days ago

          Now do i think people should go around killing people they don’t like or don’t agree with? No.

          That’s def not the majority opinion on Lemmy! lol

          But what is equally troubling to me are your words that you want to see him convicted and sentenced to life.

          I do. Because I think he did it. I’m not on the jury, so I’m allowed to have my opinion before I see every fact.

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        10 days ago

        Innocent until proven guitly. Without that, we can not claim to be a free country.

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          8 days ago

          Agreed, but I’m not a juror, so I can express my opinion. But what’s your excuse gonna be if he confesses?

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            8 days ago

            A confession of guilt is still innocent until proven guilty. Im not sure what point you are trying to make.

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              7 days ago

              You know what point I am making. And ya know he did it, you just want him to get away with it. So just admit that. Don’t dance around and pretend that you have other reasoning.

              Either way, I guess we are gonna find out what a jury thinks.

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                7 days ago

                I dont know the guy, and i dont know if hes guilty or not. i could not care less if he is guilty or not.

                What I care about is the rule of law. The rules exist to protect citizens from both criminals and the police. The rules must be followed.

                • PapaSkwat@lemmings.worldOP
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                  6 days ago

                  Sure, the rules must be followed. Which means not walking up behind a guy and murdering him just because he’s a health exec ya don’t like. Luigi deserves to spend rest of his life in prison.

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        10 days ago

        Even aside from human rights, those eyebrows look very different in every security camera picture and on Luigi

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              8 days ago

              I’ll be honest. I think Luigi’s a spoiled rich kid prick that wanted to make a statement and doesn’t know how the world works and got pissed that something didn’t go his way. And he grew up in the very wealth that Lemmy likes to pretend to fight against (even tho the average Lemmy user makes way more than the average US citizen).

              I can forgive him for that and the murder.

              But I can’t forgive those eyebrows or all the multiple Lemmys saying variations of “Oh he’s good looking! I’m a straight guy, but he’s giving me feels…” No. Just no. Those fucking eyebrows need to be apologized for.

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      10 days ago

      He was an alleged armed murderer and they detained him as the suspect. Where I live the bag being searched would probably be allowed under reasonable suspicion.

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      That’s not necessarily a problem. Cops are allowed to question people without arrest. It would be extremely hard to do any policing otherwise. There’s likely extremely technical legal limits that only criminal lawyers and judges are really capable of understanding that could invalidate that questioning.

      Also there’s a reason the advice is never talk to the police.