Nearly half of our readers now wait three years or more to replace their phones as spec upgrades have plateaued.

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    Three years is a long time?

    I usually have mine for at least five years, and only replace them when the battery won’t hold a charge and there is some kind of massive discount.

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      I usually keep mine for as long as it is getting security updates (plus a few months). This currently means 5-7 years.

      And quite frankly, I would like to keep it longer. New phones just aren’t that much better anymore.

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        While good advice, the replacements have been between zero and $100 but I wouldn’t have bothered switching for free if the battery wasn’t going dead.

        Thinking more about it, the increase in memory for the new one made the minor effort to replace the battery less appealing as well.

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      Yeah, my last phone’s battery was starting to go and I was able to get a last gen flagship for a riddiculous £400 with a £200 cashback from Samusng just for buying it and I got £75 for my old phone in trade-in so it ended up being not that much more expensive than changing the battery. I’d had the last one for almost 5 years before trading it in.

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      My last phone was 8 years old and was still doing well.

      Really after 8 years the new phones were finally significantly better for the same price.

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      There’s innovation! What are you even talking about‽

      I just upgraded my phone two months ago and now two of the four cameras (which is the same number as my old phone that I bought four years ago) have something like 20% more pixels!

      Also—now that I have the latest chip—I can talk to my phone in like three more languages. I don’t speak any of them, but… Innovation!

      My new phone is also significantly heavier than the old one and the battery life is like 10% better than my old phone when it was new! Also, my display has a few extra lines of resolution on the top and bottom!

      No innovation? Hah!

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        Don’t forget all of the stupid AI bullshit that you need to disable manually

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            You can turn a lot of it off, but yeah I’m sure there’s shit in there that you can’t

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    Consumers behave somewhat rationally despite capitalist dipshits hoping they wouldn’t.

    Cool headline bro.

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    Every time I bought a new phone, I considered it a downgrade. There is literally no phone I am in any way interested in purchasing.

    I want a phone small enough to fit in a normal pocket, and has physical buttons for basic navigation, that supports current wireless standards. No such thing seems to exist.

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    They’re the most incremental upgrades ever now, with very little innovation outside the foldable space.

    I’m going to use this Pixel 8a until it drops dead. I’m not sure how other people feel, but smart phones have largely plateaued to me. It feels more like my PC. Like I only upgrade when something fries or I can no longer run the latest applications I need.

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      I have a Galaxy Note 20 Ultra from 2020. Phenomenal device. The folding phones intrigued me, though, so I looked into it.

      The specs are meaninglessly better, anything you get today is bundled with AI bloatware, I’d lose my stylus and any choice, even the Chinese ones (which are tricky to get and use in the US grrr) cost at least $1,700 for the privilege.

      No thanks. I cracked the screen on this device and paid $250 to get pretty much the entire phone besides the main board replaced (another bitter grr, I used to swap digitizers off smart phones myself for $20) so I don’t see any reason to swap for another few years.

      In this economy? It just doesn’t make sense.

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        I have an FE 20 model, same gen. It was a high/midrange model that took their flagship and basically sized down and removed a couple gifs of ram. It has never let me down, and even years later, I still don’t need anything better. I will keep using it until security updates stop.

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      Still rockin a pixel 6 here. I upgrade when security patches stop and/or when one of the apps is artificially made to no longer work, always have

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    Only reason to get a new phone these days is if your current phone dies. Currently have an iPhone13, and it just keeps trucking. And when I do replace it, it will be a phone a couple generations old.

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    Lol.

    The adhesive has pretty much come entirely off the back panel. My camera lens literally fell off the other day. My usb port has been unusable for years. There’s more than a reasonable chance it will eventually blow up in my pocket.

    Still using it, though I probably actually should upgrade or get a quote for repair or something. But I’ve been saying that for like 15 months now. Apparently I’ve had it for just over 5 years at this point.

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      Longest I made it was 7 years on a galaxy s9. Nowhere near the amount of damage you have, just a cracked back. Battery replaced every 2 years, but I made it last.

      Upgraded to an S23 renewed from Amazon for $400 and hopefully will get another 5 years from it. Upgraded nowadays are just too expensive for any performance or features.

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        What I think’s funny is it’s still on its first battery. S20 FE, went through a skateboarding ‘phase’ and rarely used a case, so the poor thing has been beaten up pretty badly.

        Did pick up a used S22 Ultra a couple months ago, but this was a mistake. It has significant issues staying connected to my mobile network and apparently this is a common problem. Gave up the ghost and just put my SIM back in the S20, the Ultra’s just my Pocket Paint mini tablet at this point.

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          Yeah, I read bad things about the s22 as well, the CPU upgrade on the S23 was improved, so I went with that one. Decent price, Im happy with it.

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    Yes, the cameras are marginally better and the CPUs faster, but that’s about it. I don’t need, and certainly don’t want, AI features, which is often the rationale for a new phone now. A user-replaceable battery would be nice, though.

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      Some older phones will not allow you to get the latest OS. So you get stuck with an older one that no longer get security patches. This leaves you vulnerable to hacking. That’s why I eventually get a new one. This takes many years obviously.

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      FYI: Speech recognition is an AI feature and it gets (marginally) better with the newer chips. For example, in noisy environments.

      That’s probably the most-used AI thing that nearly everyone uses on occasion. Older phones had to send your speech to the cloud but with the new chips all that processing can be handled locally.

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    My previous phone I had for almost a decade I think, it was an s5 galaxy I think. I used it until it refused to turn on.

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      I had a s5 for nearly that long. It stopped charging and a replacement charging port didn’t work. bought a s10+ 1tb dirt cheap and its been nearly three years.

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      The previous three phones I replaced were because:

      • Fell off a shelf and shattered to the point of unusability
      • Stopped turning on
      • I wanted to try Graphene, but wanted a fall back if I broke something (after becoming confident Graphene would meet almost all my needs, I ended up sending the backup phone to a friend, so it didn’t go to waste)
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    My Galaxy S22+ is over 3 years old and I expect to get at least two more years out of it. I can afford to get a new smartphone every year if I want but there’s no longer any compelling reason to do so.

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    Incremental upgrades has been mentioned, but biggest is likely price creep over the years turning it into a purchase that hurts the wallet more and more.

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      Same here, and I’m not sure what I’ll go to next - the USB port has gotten flakey.

      I want to try a Linux phone, but hardware seems to be made of unobtainium, and the software seems like it’s not quite there yet.

      Part of me is tempted to just get another pixel 7 Pro on swappa.

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    I’m rebuilding a iphone XR right now. Charging port screen and battery. Who wants or can afford to keep buying their over priced crap.