I’m a beginner at drawing, but I’d wager people would choose that over AI.
Right?
I’ve got people praising my poorly drawn graphs, of all things. 5min stuff like this:
So yes, odds are they’ll like your drawings better over mass produced AI slop.
I understood this and now my back hurts!
Mind to eli5? Or link a video?.
I feel like this references an old meme… But I can’t remember what it is.
Edit: badger badger badger badger https://youtu.be/NL6CDFn2i3I
Oh!? Its a snake?
you’ve inspired me to make my own pie chart about a parody for badgers lol
Except that honey badger don’t care 🦡
How I read the image:
In the song, Badger is a monotone repetition, hence being the X axis. When Mushroom comes in, it pitches up, hence being the Y axis. Then, when Snake comes in it fluctuates in pitch with an overall rise.
The humor is clever enough on its own, but the roughly sketched chart with clipart sells the fact that the joke is in the delivery and being sent quickly without being overly refined to the point that it looks polished. The rough rounding of the background makes it even more funny for me, because it was like an attempt was made.
Peak artistic humor by looking like an idea was thrown together to get the joke out as fast as possible. Maybe it was quick, maybe it took time to do for the end result, but the look comes through.
Perfection
In the meantime, artist intention be like:
“Uh, should I label the axes «good» and «gooder»? «Good» and «better»? Nah. Oh look the line I drew looks like a snake. Snaaake, snaaaake… wait, there’s a song like this, right? Ah, the badger song! This works: badger, mushroom, snake. Done.”
(Glad you liked my 5min example!)
One quickly learns that drawings don’t have to be detailed or experienced to be appreciated. Sure, it absolutely helps, learn what techniques make art more beautiful so you can punch above your weight, but I’ve received compliments from quick minimal doodles just by having fun with it.
I love this!
Exactly. I’d taoe funny concept crudely drawn stick figures over AI slop
I’d rather see absolutely nothing instead of AI
You want someone to look at your AI art? Simple. Just make an LLM look at it. If AI produces it, AI can be the one that has to look at it.
In the beginning, people used simple programs like ms paint with a mouse to draw. I use my phone’s editor to draw stuff. Have a cat
Without the ears and with broad paws, it nicely doubles as a sea lion.
I think I just understood what “abstract art” actually means. Holy hell.
Yes
If it’s funny enough, the art is secondary. If the at is perfect, the joke still needs to be at least passable.
Just because it’s human made, doesn’t mean it’s automatically good.
Sometimes the bad art becomes its own part of the joke (xkcd).
Man, I suuuuck at drawing and painting. But (up until the last couple weeks I guess) I’ve been making and posting my shitty ass, MS Paintesque paintings and collages. Why?
Because you and I are humans and creative expression is our fucking right.
Because you don’t get better at anything unless you keep doing it.
Because people, at least here, prefer a technically shitty artistic effort to a better looking image made by a insanely thirsty software architecture owned by greedy technocrats.
Because fuck it, we can.
Post those drawings homie.
I consider myself to be alright by hobbyist standards, at least, but here’s a watercolor and watercolor crayon painting of a pair of bunnies skating on a frozen pond at night.
And yeah, I kinda love watercolor crayons as a medium, at least in combination with watercolors, and I’m a newbie to watercolor crayons.
Plus, here’s an acrylic painting of a mouse building a snowman at night for a bonus pic, and yeah, I know the snow and mouse are supposed to be white, but I gave that whole scene a pink/purple tint for the sake of cuteness.
Also, I very, very much have a preference for traditional media over digital tools mainly because traditional media have always been fun for me to play with, painting in particular I tend to get lost in for hours at a time.
Finally, I’m adding a wax crayon drawing to this post because why not, but here’s a wax crayon drawing of Pichu and Dedenne building a snowman, and I’ll stop here before this post gets too spammy. And just like with the mouse painting above, I gave this scene a pink/purple tint because that’s cute, also, wax crayons are one of my fave drawing media currently alongside oil pastels and chalk in any order.
These are cute as fuck and I love them! Definitely understand the appeal of traditional media over digital (my stuff’s digital mostly because of accessibility).
Thanks! And I’d argue that traditional is more accessible on some metrics than digital, eg. having a lower entry fee because you can just get a box of crayons and a pad of paper for a pittance and go to town, vs. three figures at minimum for a usable PC to do digital stuff on, for example.
You can even get a set of paints and some brushes for pretty cheap if you’re interested in that as well; craft paints will do just fine for acrylics, for example, although you’ll want some heavy watercolor paper or at the very least construction paper for a working surface that can handle wet media reliably, plus paints in general can get kinda messy for something else to be aware of, but that’s a big part of why they’re fun.
Good point, and I understand where you’re coming from. My counterpoint is basically “the best tools to start making art are the ones you already have”.
In my case, I had a phone and the ability to download Pocket Paint (think OSS MS Paint), and that’s what got me started. For others, it might be basic paints and paper/cheap canvas from a dollar store. For others, it might be crude pigments made from old coffee grounds and charcoal remnants from a hobo fire they came across, applied to junk mail newspaper with kitchen utensils. For still others, it could be a rock and another, harder rock for etching.
Shit, there’s people out there making paintings with Excel.
You can always explore different techniques and materials as your interests develop and/or budget allows, but for the person who just wants to start making something, whatever you have on hand that captures your fancy is the best first choice IMO.
This energy is peak! 💯
Uh… Where, exactly?
(Rough drawing of a confused girl.)
I’m not very good… •_•
Lol, here is just fine. I usually put my crap on Art Share (originals using few/no collage elements), or Low Effort Memes (a blissfully permissive community that hasn’t given me too much shit for my collage stuff yet).
I’m a firm believer that it’s OK to be an amateur in public. Yes, you might get downvotes/people saying you suck/whatever. You might also get tips to improve, or encouragement to keep going. At very least you can point at something publically and say “Hey, I made this!”. Maybe someone else points at it and says “I can do better than this”, then picks up a tool to try and prove it. Bam - you just made another artist.
Quoting from noted philosopher Violent J: “If he knows what’s so dope he should make it himself, and quit fucking judging every-fucking-body else”
This is a good start! Hell, this is what 90% of my drawings looked like when I was a young guy. At a certain point I stopped, and didn’t approach art of any kind for decades. An old friend of mine at pretty close the same skill level kept doing it, sharing the results with interested folks, kept honing their craft, and now they’re a professional animator with credits in award-winning shows. Thank you for sharing!!
I was a beginner until I tried this one weird trick: Draw an orgy scene with Sonichu, Shrek, Goku, and Spider-man.
You are welcome in advance.
Hell yes. I would rather watch, read and listen to messy outsider art for hours and hours than consume the most polished of artificial material. I don’t care how good it looks, how good it sounds, how good whatever. If it’s not made by a person it means nothing to me.
EDIT: Since I brought it up… John Frusciante’s first couple of albums. So weird yet so good.
One would hope, but most people prefer convenience over creation and sadly GenAI, for as much of a ripoff as it is, fills that niche for those people, It shouldn’t, I don’t support that in the slightest (seriously, if you want fast, easy art, just play with construction paper cutouts, that’s still worlds better than typing in a prompt to get something, and it’s also kinda fun on its own merits), and I hate GenAI with a passion, but it’s what it is.
That said, you can still resist it by just continuing to handmake stuff like you’ve probably been doing since you could hold a crayon and make marks with it.
After the first 100 or so AI images I saw, the novelty of “wow this is technically possible” wore off and now I kind of hate anything generated by ai even if it looks good (which it usually doesn’t).
You know why I hate it even more now?
Because unaware people have started using it to generate images of our loved ones, houses, etc.
I CAN’T EVEN FUCKING TRUST A PHOTO OF MY NEPHEWS ANYMORE.
I HATE that. If my friends, family and home aren’t refuges against that AI shit, then what the fuck is?!
Parents are going to go for years, then one day to their horror realize that they don’t have any actual pictures of their children.
Same here. AI slop has turned me (and my brother) off of YouTube shorts. Like 80-90% of the content is AI, and you have to play detective for most of them (to find out it’s AI generated)
YT in general is increasingly becoming scam central in terms of AI-generated content.
I was just trying to research some games on YouTube, and a disgusting amount of videos are ai generated 🤮
mostly why i’ve increasingly turned to forums like this for that kind of stuff (if i’ve ever needed). I think that it’s in part to a new AI suggestions thing that Google implemented. It also does the videos too i believe. Still a shame it’s happening though. :(
I’ve also seen some channels I loosely follow start using/ producing AI content unfortunately. All this AI slop on YT has greatly turned me off the platform as of late.
Great policy.
I only hope mods can keep up as the deluge washes in. Tons of brand new accounts seem to love spamming channels with slop, then go dead once they’ve been banned across enough instances
We’re going to need a Butlerian jihad at the rate this is going.
James Cameron should have directed the Dune prequels
The lack of karma also does wonders in this. It means people sharing AI-generated content will do it when they genuinely think others will enjoy it, so it’s only a handful of pictures that turned out good. They won’t for example mass produce them to farm upvotes here.
EDIT: I know sunshine is talking about a PieFed feature, and what I’m saying applies to Lemmy and Piefed. Point still stands, no karma = no reason to farm karma.
Though exactly like NSFW/NSFL and bot posts (which people avoid so replying can feel like a honeypot experience where a conversation was invited but unlikely to be fruitful, since even the poster themselves will never read your message), it’s not only the item itself but rather the lack of proper labeling. AI slop could arguably, theoretically, for some people (I’m trying to frame this so as to lessen the chances of being flamed here!) be enjoyable, but cannot be acceptable in the wider community unless properly labeled. This “restriction” enables us to be more fully free to have our own enjoyment of this shared space.
Edit: for context, I had not even gotten to the existing flame war down below your comment yet, but somehow I knew it was coming! The Threadiverse seems to love to hate on AI almost as much as Windows and tankies!:-P (and ironically all for the same underlying reason: because consent should matter, even/especially when others say differently)
because consent should matter, even/especially when others say differently
Bingo. And IMO this feature should be side-ported to Lemmy, because that consent.
The Lemmy devs are not very active in the commits…
C’mon, a person can dream, right.
I mean… good luck with that, but feature requests languish for years on Lemmy, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
For now, there’s only the option to ban / block people submitting it. I doubt that will change anytime soon.
GenAI is somehow more blatant about ripping people off than EL James of all people was when she ‘wrote’ Fifty Shades in airquotes.
At least she had to change some things around in her godawful recycled fanfic to keep from getting sued for copyright, GenAI doesn’t even do that much and that’s somehow viewed as acceptable.
Oh, and EL James only ripped off one person with her trash, GenAI blatantly and shamelessly rips off everyone.
Hold up, I always thought James wrote the shitty fanfic, then rewrote so it wasn’t a Twilight thing anymore. Curious as to the actual story.
Fifty Shades started out as a shitty Twilight fanfic (and I use that term loosely here), rather unfortunately named, Master of the Universe, while EL James was going under ‘Snowqueens Icedragon,’ and she changed some things around before publishing to prevent from getting sued for copyright.
(I use the term ‘fanfic’ loosely because she pretty much just ripped off Twilight, but replaced vampire references with badly-misinterpreted BDSM references)
I put more effort and care into my Pokemon fanart than EL James put into her shitty Twilight fanfic.
No, but you’re on the money with your assumption, EL James writing the shitty fanfic, and then changing it to remove Twilight references before publishing is pretty much the actual story.
People do not respect artists and with the internet and digital art making it the easiest time in human history to get art, people feel entitled to art. They don’t respect the time and effort that artists put into creating something and don’t think that their skills are worth paying for, even when they’re demanding that they produce content for them.
In this regard, GenAI has become a real plague because the kinds of people who would make great middle managers - taking credit for the effort of others - now have access to the skill required to make “good art” without having to pay for nor respect the labor required. GenAI lets your average person treat artists the way that corporations treat their employees.
The best and most basic way to fight that, at least as a hobbyist, is to just keep handmaking stuff like you’ve always done before GenAI became a blight on the creative world, that way you’ll at least hold the line on some metric, plus making stuff is still fun, particularly with traditional media, (paints, crayons, etc, whatever your jam is) regardless.
Block ai content posters. Starve them and they stop
AI haters on Lemmy are good entertainment. Imagine adults getting mad because they discover what tool a meme was made with. Half the time they can’t even tell.
Most AI generated things is just shit, especially to look at, if you can’t recognize 99% of AI generated images then there is a problem tbh.
Thought it’s real that sometimes people exaggerate and hate the use of AI for everthing when there are clearly some good uses.
Most AI generated stuff is shit. But most AI generated stuff that’s been widely circulated has been handpicked to not be shit, and are generally not recognisable as such.
people can’t tell when I spit onetheir food… I guess that means it’s perfectly fine for them to eat spit, right?… good to know
“I think it’s funny that people are upset about a new technology which will 1000% have incredibly destructive effects on society”
Congratulations on being whatever that makes you? It’s not good.
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may i join?
i should try piefed
I wouldn’t call anything I’ve ever seen on lemmy art. Maybe like2 the photos of actual art.
Never seen someone tell on themselves like this so hard
How many art communities do you follow?
There are dedicated communities where people post their art?
Real question: what do you call art?
I’ve seen plenty of art here. Subjective quality/technical prowess certainly varies, but art nonetheless.
Is there a client? Or does everyone just use the webapp?
