• Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Dude needs to open a gofundme for that one. I’d give him ten bucks for the delivery of what many of us think.

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      Fuck I hate this timeline where we throw money at people for being on one team or the other. I mean, good for him and all, but this is BS.

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        I mean he did essentially lose his job over this, I’m glad the people are supporting him because the worse alternative is that his family falls into poverty for standing up against evil

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      Can you imagine if he did a fraction of any of this, the detractors from the right are just made of fury and idiocy, but they would have been far more justified about something like this than a black man wearing a tan suit.

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      They said Obama was going to have DEATH PANELS roaming around killing people.

      EVERYTHING they say is projection.

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      It’s funny this keeps getting brought up. We already know they’re hypocritical racists who only care about team red and themselves. Hurting others is the point. It doesn’t matter who the opposition is.

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    You know how you can identify weak childlike leaders?

    This. This is a sign of a petty weak person.

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      Ford is complying with dear leader while dear leader is actively fucking Ford by cutting trade with Canada.

      I used to work in automotive manufacturing. The amount of parts to build cars cannot come from just America. It’s impossible.

      Trump is beating the shit out of Ford and they’re just standing there asking for more.

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        9 days ago

        Silver lining though, cars will get more expensive, which might spur more public transit. Heh… at the very least it will make walkable places a little more desirable.

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          Oh cars will get more expensive, but you think America will lean towards public transit? Auto manufacturers will just bitch and moan about how they can’t sell their $145,000 entry level sedan, and the government will just bail them out with your tax money.

          What, you don’t want to pay $1500 a month for a Ford Focus?

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            Ford would bitch and moan so American safety regulations would be cut back to help lower costs of cars

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            Ford doesn’t sell the Focus anymore because the US hates reasonably sized vehicles.

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            I’m hoping this means we’ll actually get a high speed rail line from Toronto to Quebec City sometime this century instead of just having another shelved study.

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            If people can’t afford cars, they’ll just create subsidies using middle class tax money.

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        Parts yes. Cars no.

        It is in Ford’s best interest to keep other forgien cars out of the US. If Americans were really free to shop forgien cars the US car companies would all go under.

        Trump will keep out “bad forgien cars”

        Tairiffs are just a cost they pass down to consumers when there are no other options for the consumer other than domestic cars built with tariffed parts.

        They know what they are doing.

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        That is total bullshit they could build all the parts in the country, preposterous to claim otherwise. The president is a piece of shit, and will ruin ford, but the parts could easily all be made in america, and were all made in america, probably in living memory.

        Now everyone is defending neo liberalism because the president co opted anger at so called free trade.

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          So where is America getting a lot of their foreign special metals? Last I checked a lot of particular components needed to build modern vehicles literally don’t exist in America.

          If you wanted to build just a car from 1968, absolutely you could. But the technology in cars now-a-days comes from materials that literally do not exist in the continental USA. You need to import them. And Canada has a lot of it. So even the suggestion that you don’t need Canada is not only ignorant as hell but completely stupid.

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            But the technology in cars now-a-days comes from materials that literally do not exist in the continental USA.

            It would not be hard to rebuild that technology with the wealth or nation has. It is a choice, and was intentionally made that way, and pretending otherwise is to take at face value the narrative the rich weave

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            The US actually has about every metal or mineral you could want somewhere, as rissia and china both do, canada to a lesser extent. The us used to lead in rare earth stuff too. Not sure about cobalt and coltan but it likely does exist in the us.

            Not that we should process all of them here neccessarily. Just that we have deposits of basically everything.

            I do not think we should have tarrifs on canada or europe. But our cars could be made in the us, and used to be before nafta. Made in measures parts though, raw materials are not included in those.

            Canada is not the problem in free trade. Their only advantage is not unfair, they do not gouge on healthcare forcing companies to pay more for less to pay an army of parasites offering no value to health care.

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            Who said anything about the Raw materials? That is not how made in labels work and you know it. You are throwing around a little gratuitous insults despite you being the one that was despite you being the one that was wrong.

            But we could do all the raw materials in the United States as a matter of fact. Ford had a completely vertical operation and produced almost everything in the United States. But I do not know why I’m talking to somebody that called me stupid for challenging his falsehood.

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              The fact you even think that I called you stupid, rather than the President of the United States stupid, says all I need to know about you. Have a great day.

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      I mean, insulting someone on a tour of your plant is pretty unprofessional

      I’d even say that it was a bad thing to do, if the insulted tour-goer wasn’t the lowest scum of the earth XD

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      While at work you are representing the company and have to act accordingly. Aside from any personal feelings about what he said, what he did is really unprofessional and could cause reputational damage to the company.

      I agree with what he said but yelling that at work during a visit is just not a great idea.

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        That dude was representing his union not Ford Motor Company.

        Just because some company says “you are representing FORD” … the CEO of Ford doesn’t drive a Ford … is he get a pass because he is rich ?

        You don’t represent a company. You represent yourself.

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          An employee on the work clock? Of course he is representing the company. If I see someone and they have a uniform then they are representing their company. They might be representing themself as well (personal reputation) but they are also representing their employer and their actions reflect on the company.

          I think Trump is a piece of shit but you are in the wrong in this regard.

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            I agree with you, though I think in this case being unprofessional is warranted and worth it, but I totally understand suspension.

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        This is not like representing the company at a picnic or charity event. This is PR for the aspiring fascist dictator, who is leaving us with a legacy of a soon to be supreme leaders fixing elections and ruling in a reign of terror scapegoating others for problems. Also one that fucked children with epstein and let himself get caught on tape doing it so now a foreign intelligence agency (israel,) has proof that would ruin him making him at their disposal. Also a lifelong blackmailer himself, such an enigma, a child fucking blackmailing enigma.

        Fuck the company and their stroking off the guy betraying the country that allowed ford to become great. They are fools to trust the party, and will be destroyed by them, because they and their ilk were trying to prevent a little reform to restore the glory of the republic to the post war years.

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          I’m all for the sentiment, I just tried to explain what sort of stance the company is working from and why being suspended or fired wouldn’t be surprising.

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            Oh yeah the president and his people are think skinned to say the least. They would have the guy executed if they could. The company would be looking at transparent penalties if they didn’t fire the guy.

            They should reinstate him with his union though, idk how it works in auto, but other unions will get guys reinstated with back pay for being fired contrary to the contract.

            I would not be surprised if they didn’t try and investigate the guy with federal prosecutors, but we are not quite there yet where those prosecutions would make it to trial.

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      Geico fired R. Lee Ermey because he gave a speech claiming Obama was bankrupting the country on purpose so he could bring socialism to the US. Just saying.

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        I truly don’t understand that line of reasoning. At all.

        Putting aside ideological stances on economic and social structures, how does someone reason that the country being broke makes socialism more achievable?

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          If I can remember correctly (and I probably can’t) I think they figured Obama would cause mass unrest, bankrupt the country with insane economic policies, then use that as excuse to implement martial law, then use that to pass a law that says we do socialism now.

          I’m pretty sure I remember that rhetoric going around during Biden too.

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          Yeah, I agree with you. The assertion was that no one was ever fired for saying anything about Obama, and all I’m saying is that’s not the case.

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      While I agree with the sentiment, there’s always 1 person who says something really racist or something and does get into trouble, but usually gets a bunch of right wing support too.
      Edit: Google search mentions several, including Ferguson police officer being extremely racist, a teacher also being racist calling Michelle a gorilla, a NY police officer got a mere 60 days for a slur and suggesting the president “go die in a shallow grave.”

      The overall point stands that they did way worse than someone calling out the truth, but right wing defenders will definitely say it happened with Obama too.

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        I guess, Obama didn’t respond like this:

        TJ Sabula shout “Pedophile protector!” at Trump, before the president responded with a middle finger and a “f*ck you”

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    Ford already sucked. Since I’m in the market for a new vehicle Ford was already off the table. This doesn’t change much but supports my claim.

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      I had the misfortune of renting a couple cars recently.

      As a renter Toyota still required me to set up an account to do anything besides basically radio on the central console. Certainly no maps or phone connections.

      Ford gave full functionality, but would block one of the info screens if the seat belt was unbuckled, even if you were parked. Want to see your average efficiency at the end of a trip? Make sure your buckled in for that info. Make sure your passengers are, too. This vehicle didn’t seem to have a built-in map, which seems dumb, but the phone could be connected and I suppose android auto would pass the info across. I didn’t need the functionality that much, and after a couple days the phone connection went crazy and started connecting and disconnecting so I removed my phone from the list.

      Neither car was impressing me too much on the entertainment functionality and if it was my vehicle I may have put in the effort to resolve these, but not for something I was only using for a few days. From the performance side, I was happier with the Toyota Corolla. Part of that is I prefer sedans and the free upgrade to the Ford Escape wasn’t something I really wanted (not the poorer fuel efficiency, either).

      So yeah, Ford sucks.

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      Ah he’s only suspended and a union member. I heard that the suspension will likely be short (3 days was the figure someone in the same union said on the other site). I’m sure we’ll hear all about it if he is actually fired.

      Mad props to him for seeing his opportunity, realising it was once in a lifetime and grabbing it with both hands.

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        Top 10 reasons to be in a union:can yell at donald without getting sacked

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    “I don’t feel as though fate looks upon you often, and when it does, you better be ready to seize the opportunity,” he said. “And today I think I did that.”

    American Proletariat has an aristeia moment.

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    Archive link

    https://archive.li/axEPX

    “I don’t feel as though fate looks upon you often, and when it does, you better be ready to seize the opportunity,” he said. “And today I think I did that.”