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Tried it 🏴☠️, they seem to have gone for “It’s bigger than the first one!” and indeed it is. Big, empty spaces to run through with nothing happening. Uninstalled. 70€ saved.
Stop making huge environments full of nothing.
I mean… I’ll eventually play it, but when it’s on sale for like less than $20aud and all the bugs are fixed and the rest of the content is added.
The current approach to releasing half complete games at high prices, and then just trickle updates, means gamers are incentivised to just wait a year or two after a games releases before giving it a go.
$70 for a game is mad. Even if it was critically acclaimed and award winning who can afford that when most people struggle to live? Even $50 is a lot of money. Big game developers have lost the plot.
AAA games are just too expensive and many are just not finished at release now. I’m not forking out top dollar for a half finished game. Outer Worlds 2 is still $89.99 CAD. That is absolutely insane in my opinion. I enjoyed the first one, but I also bought it on sale. Indy games nowadays are generally a better bang for your buck anyways and theyre only $30-40 regular price and they are also generally at a finished state or at the very least very honest about the state they are in.
I’ll probably pick the game up in 2 years when its $20 on Steam or something.
I mean I play the games either way.
So whether companies learn to make their games affordable for the vast majority of Americans who are cash strapped or not is irrelevant to me.
I’m just wondering how long it takes these companies to realize how many others like me there are out there and that they could be making a lot more money if they just made prices reasonable.
I actualy finally have a decent income and I still do what I do if the price isn’t fair, just out of spite.
This for me too. It is too high a ticket price for a game I want to play but am not completely excited about. My hardware will possibly also struggle with this title, so that was too high of a barrier for me.
This will be the new normal for a couple years. Then when no one in the US can afford a $30 game. They’ll set the prices back for $60.
God man, shits so sad but I’d be lying if I said I was surprised at all. The first one was very OK, like it was certainly a game that I played and bothered completing. They were very lucky someone had the idea to make Parvati in the first game, the rest of the crew was a snooze fest (at least for me). But then I see the shitty commercial they made for the companions in the 2nd game, and no fucking wonder it didn’t sell! They tell you nothing, play that god awful song over some shitty footage and crack a joke about how none of them are romance-able. They then charge 80 bucks, and make fun of you if you pay for their premium edition, yea go fuck yourself obsidian, and stop taking credit for new Vegas, none of those team members are still around.
I’m not sure which of you is right, but another comment below said JSawyer is still at Obsidian. That’s the name for me, and probably for a lot of people.
I’ll be real, I did not know he still worked there, that’s what I get for saying things without looking it up. That being said, according to Wikipedia, he didn’t have a hand in OW1, Avowed, or OW2. Why brag about having JSawyer if he isn’t even working on it you know?
Yeah, I get you. I haven’t played OW2 but Avowed is so… not fun, for me. I’ll give it another shot someday.
OW1 tho was okay I thought. Not good enough to motivate me to play the DLCs I had already paid for, lol.
i found avowed the best out of the 3 (ow1 and ow2)
try using pistols cause theyre fuckin broken lol
Idk it’s not the combat, I just didn’t find myself able to engage in the world? Maybe if I played pillars?
dude parvarti was like 95% of the reason i kept playing outer worlds 1 until the end 😂
This is an accurate take haha.
Might just be me but… I really like the companions in the Outer Worlds 2. They’re way better than the first game. The inability to romance them was actually a selling point to me, because I assumed that meant each character’s arc would focus on their own story unrelated to their relationship with the player, like in New Vegas.
So far, I’ve loved how Inez especially expands on the history of Auntie’s Choice. There’s one companion that’s just a little goofy, but I also don’t know how you’d do that character without making them extremely naive.
The game as a whole actually is much more fleshed-out than the first, at least thus far (halfway through). I highly recommend getting it on a sale.
Didn’t mind the first one, but you are out of your mind if you think I would pay $70 for this game. Especially after they tried to sell it for $80 at first. Thank god that didn’t fly. Fuck you Microsoft.
It’s crazy too, because most games that launch for $70, you can just wait 3 months and then they’ll have a 30% sale. I will be picking it up this March, should go on sale for like 40%.
On Steam https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449110/The_Outer_Worlds_2/ the lowest price it had was 2 month ago (approx. 1 year after release on Steam I think) at 30% cut, which is 49 Euros down from 70. So it might take another 6 or even 12 months before going lower than that.
The Outer Worlds 2 came out October 29th, 2025 (not even 4 months ago). So for it to already be at 30% 2 months after release gives me hope that it’ll go down much more next sale. I’m assuming it didn’t sell that well on steam just looking at number of reviews and all time player count peak.
Oops my bad. I thought its already a year ago… lol time does not fly!
Haven’t they lost almost all of the staff involved with the good games? At this point they’re in the same boat as BioWare. All the old guard is gone.
I think Josh Sawyer is still there, he most recently headed up 2022’s Pentiment, couldn’t say about anyone else though
I’m not surprised. I was going into the final stretch of Outer Worlds 1 and realized I just don’t care. It wasn’t a bad game but New Vegas it was not.
It did make for a great Secret Level episode though.
Right. An hour after maxing out my character I realized I wasn’t really having fun anymore, I was just trying to get it over with.
Outer worlds 1 was fine. It was goofy, had character, but no depth to it’s story. The gunplay was not good, not for me anyway. Can we not do bullet sponges and leveled lists? Can levels give you abilities instead of numbers? Honestly would have been a better game if it was an isometric RPG, which obsidian is good at making.
Was. But I do agree.
Honestly, the first one was Ok, I’m kinda surprised there was a second one.
Ok, not really surprised since every IP needs to be a franchise, but you know what I mean.
I enjoyed it… sorry.
Don’t apologize for enjoying a game.
No way in hell I’d pay its nearly $100CAD asking price.
For how phoned in the story was and how badly it runs in UE5 it’s kind of insane that they charged above $50
I didn‘t like the first one so this was a hard pass for me. However I didn‘t even know the sequel was out yet. This thing completely drowned among better priced indie games.
I ended up pirating it because the price was just out of the question for me at the time I found out it was released. Which was purely by chance
Overall it was an okay experience but I didn’t like the cast as much as the original, had to download some mods for my first playthrough (not something I usually do) to fix some things I found annoying, and was just kinda bored. If I’d had anything else to do I probably wouldn’t have finished it, and I don’t see myself going back for a second playthrough. Indie games just seem to be doing everything better rn
Outer Worlds 2, Avowed, Mass Effect Andromeda, Dragon Age Veilguard - each one of these games were touted for their improved combat, at least improved movement. That’s not to say any are great, just that they’re not as clunky as previous games. They are not standout in that regard. So for Bioware and Obsidian, it is still the case that their draw is writing in a higher budget RPG than the startup indie scene. Pretty much where Owlcat is now getting to with Warhammer and the Expanse licensed games, that’s where Bioware and Obsidian were 20-25 years ago. Narrative games
Bioware and Obsidian games aren’t so fun to play to appeal with mediocre writing. I think like an 80+% reduction of irony, snark, sarcasm, eye rolls, modern slang, knods to modern culture would do wonders for their games writing. Don’t have to get rid of all of it. Just have them be more fun finds in a dialog tree that make them memorable and each high quality while the rest of the narrative takes itself seriously. I’ll 5 great jokes over 100, “ehh I get it. I guess that’s funny.”
I couldn’t get into veil guard. The combat was pretty good and it looks pretty. The characters were annoying and seemed… Type cast? All their dialogue seemed corny. Maybe they get better throughout the story but the story also didn’t grab me.
I played all the others and the mass effect series multiple times. I even enjoyed Andromeda for what it was (though I quit at the final mission save for some reason).
My guess on Veilguard is that after the original creator left, now it was up to remaining writers to maintain passion in lore that they didn’t formulate. So Veilguard, it all gets watered down and anticlimactically rolled out and the focus ended up being relationship drama which still sucked.
A Dragon Age game that wants to be Lifetime channel medieval teenage fantasy romance but the characters are all seasoned combat veteran adults so it’s very weird for them to behaving so childish and unprofessional or even blase about the world ending/faith shattering reveals in the story. They are weirdly archetypal high school students placed in the wrong story
I played DA1-3 a bunch of times. Veilguard just sucks. ME1-3 I never liked like KOTOR 1and 2 but good enough. Andromeda, it’s not interesting. Dropped maybe halfway through. Good gunplay and movement but overly big uninteresting worlds. I don’t remember what any character wanted. At least Inquisition, the different areas were visually memorable
Your extremely expensive try-hard sequel to a just OK game didn’t blow everyone away? Womp womp. Obsidian died when MS bought them.
