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    PORTUGAL CARALHO

    Seriously impressive!

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      I was told on Landman that wind power isn’t reliable, doesn’t last long enough, and requires oil to even work! Are you telling me a Taylor Sheridan show is US right wing propaganda?!

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        The best part was Cooper Norris trying to convince someone that solar power isn’t worth it in Texas because you need sunny days. In Texas, where theres less than 70 days of rain in a year!

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          Crikey.
          I live in the UK, we’ve had about 3 weeks of rain and clouds. Yet it’s still worth having solars, etc, over here.

          What I don’t use during the summer is exported and credited, which helps pay some/most of the winter bills.

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        Are you serious that they just drop all of that anti-climate propaganda in there? I’d never watch a show that reminds me of the Oil field hicks I used to work with in my past so can’t say I really have a desire to go watch it now just to find out.

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          Ohhh there is a lot of the over tones throughout the show. Bashing on the younger generations not knowing how the world “works”, O&G being required (in this current form) and must grow more, progressiveness is the devil, etc. etc.

          It’s Taylor’s thing. He did the same but slightly muted notion with Yellowstone until the last few seasons when he went all in on the notion.

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    Meanwhile Germany is thinking about plans to make private solar users pay to have their surplus energy put in thd grid. <big sigh>

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      Pay to maintain the grid but get paid for the injected energy, like is already the case in a few EU countries, correct?

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        Get paid a pittance yeah. The grid has been rotting for decades now (that’s what years of conservative government gets you)

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          I know but in the end it’s a net income, not expense; and it’s been like this everywhere in Europe as clean energy generation Increased, the energy producer participates more in the maintenance cost of the grid. I think people should get paid fairly for the energy they generate though, to justify this or the investment in a domestic battery that can supply the grid when there’s demand

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      Yeah sorry but that’s completely sensible. Grid-scale solar is awesome, but private solar is a symptom of complete government failure.

      Compared to grid-scale you have:

      • No economies of scale
      • Massive investments required to force utilities to upgrade transformers (here in Belgium it’s quite common in the summer that whole neighborhoods have their inverters shut off because the voltage is too high because the low-voltage grid simply wasn’t meant to flow in the other direction)
      • Horrendous fiscal incentives that reward the rich and punish the poor (who are forced to shoulder the distribution costs for the rich who are still using the grid but “offsetting” it with net metering).

      Getting ~30% back on the energy you put back into the grid is fair when you that into account (distribution is more than half of your actual energy cost, therefore putting 1 kWh back into the grid does not discharge you from paying for 1 kWh of distribution costs!).

      If the government was doing its fucking job no house would have solar on the roof (except in remote places for outage preparedness) because when you account for externalities it doesn’t make any goddamn financial sense. Put those panels in former colza fields by the GW if you want cheap electricity.

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    Most of Renewables in Portugal is hydro-generation so it’s highly dependent on amount of rain, in a country which the Global Warming models say it’s going to turn into pretty much a desert except in the coastal areas.

    This is why just a year ago only 45% of electricity came from Renewables since, after 2 years of draught, most dams were pretty much empty, whilst right now the country has had so much rain in the last couple of months that dams are full to the brim and even have had to release excess water, and there are even floods around most major rivers.

    Given the way things are going, Portugal needs to invest more in Solar since the very high capacity in terms of hidro-generation (a policy that dates all the way back to Fascist days, possibly the only good thing those types ever did for the country) will turn far less usefull with Global Warming.

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      The hydro generation is no longer as dominant as you suggest, but it has also 2 other important functions: water reservoir and energy battery: when there’s lots of wind that excess of energy is used to pump water upstream to some dams, that can produce energy at other time.

      The strength of any renewable system is diversity of sources and mechanisms.

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        Yes, several dams in Portugal do have the capability of pumping water up to the top reservoir when there is excess power from other sources to latter use it for power production when conditions change.

        However most don’t and for those, given that the long term trend is that hydro-generation is going to be a lot less effective in Portugal and in the meanwhile it’s already become less reliable, they’ll become a lot less effective, hence why Renewables in Portugal was just 45% a years ago when the country wasn’t having an unusually high-precipitation period like now and instead was at in its second year of draught conditions (a situation which has become much more common in the last couple of decades).

        Further, solar is hugelly underdeveloped in what is one of the countries of Europe with the most sunshine, no doubt due to amongst other things policies that de facto reduce incentives for home solar all in the service of keeping the profits of politically well-connected local Power Companies high.

        The country needs more solar generation, especially home generation as well as the kind of solar technologies - like molten salt solar concentrators - that are capable of keeping generating power at night.

        In light of Global Warming trends there’s still a long way to go for Renewables in Portugal, IMHO, and local policies are still quite disjointed and poluted by politicians putting the interests of a handful of private companies above all else.

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    I feel like this is going to be a deciding factor in how comfortable countries are in the third quarter of the 21st century.
    “Did they start to get their renewable shit in order by 2025?”

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    Portugal Hits 80% Renewables, Power Bills Drop €703M

    Dear Britain,

    More than 1/3 renewables & 3 times more expensive power bills.

    What happened?

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    Key point is how will that effectively affect the average home consumers ?

    From the article is hasn’t yet - it is expected to positively influence further pricing… but yet we are all on the Europe market based on gaz prices aren’t we?

    Someone pocketed that but not consumers… which is for me a critical point in adoption of renewables : if whatever we commit to doesn’t bring relief it will not be popular enough.