Newsom and his team have successfully tapped into the need that many rank-and-file Democrats have for adopting a confrontational approach to Trump and his policies. But few people outside of California know much about the governor’s actual record — and many Democratic voters will be turned off to learn that his fervent opposition to a billionaire tax is part of an overall political approach that has trended more and more corporate-friendly.
A year ago, Newsom sent about 100 leaders of California-based companies a prepaid cell phone “programmed with Newsom’s digits and accompanied by notes from the governor himself,” POLITICO reported. One note to the CEO of a big tech corporation said, “If you ever need anything, I’m a phone call away.” While pandering to business elites, Newsom has slashed budgets to assist the poor and near-poor with healthcare, housing and food – in a state where seven million live under the official poverty line and child poverty rates are the highest in the nation.
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“Governor Newsom’s reluctance to propose meaningful revenue solutions to help blunt the harm of federal cuts undermines his posture to counter the Trump administration.” The statement said that the proposed budget “will leave many Californians without food assistance and healthcare coverage.”
So far, key facts about Newsom’s policy priorities have scarcely gone beyond California’s borders. “National media have focused on Newsom as a personality and potential White House candidate and have almost completely ignored what he has and has not done as a governor,” said columnist Dan Walters, whose five decades covering California politics included 33 years at the Sacramento Bee. “It’s a perpetual failing of national political media to be more interested in image and gamesmanship rather than actual actions, the sizzle rather than the steak, and Newsom is very adept at exploiting that tendency.”
Also see https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/feb/10/gavin-newsom-presidential-candidate-democrats
Like Trump, Newsom breaks promises, serves billionaire interests and mistakes social media theatrics for leadership. Is that really what American voters will want in 2028? After Richard Nixon, Americans chose Jimmy Carter. After George W Bush, they chose Barack Obama. After Trump, they’ll likely want change – authentic, strong, moral leadership, a leader with competence and vision.
I sincerely hope democrats do not spend another 4 years playing to the center and failing to prosecute or reform. I was satisfied with Biden on most issues at the time. He was better for unions than Obama. In retrospect- Biden was not a good candidate because he led back to Trump’s second term. What kind of future would Newsom bring in 2032?
And remember, by “center” it’s really “even further right than last time”. We have the same problem in Canada and we literally have a third, progressive party that’s fully separate from the neo-liberal “centrist” party and we still fuck it up.
Conservatives should be voting for Democrats but human beings aren’t generally that smart so most of us participate in relativistic politics and it sucks.
I grew up thinking that the LPC was left and didn’t even understand why the NDP existed. Of course today I only vote NDP or further left.
Yup, and all because it’s what people say.
And then people go “you have to vote Liberal or the Conservatives will win!” and it’s like, ya’ll voted Liberal and conservatives did win! And not only that but in doing so they also further delayed the country by shooting our major progressive option in the foot!
I just wish people had a baseline intelligence that wasn’t so embarrassing.
Gavin vs. most other candidates during the primaries, I’m voting for most other candidates. Literally anyone including Gavin vs. GOP, I’m voting for literally anyone including Gavin.
Gruesome Newsom WILL lose the Democrats the election. They keep putting up milque toast corporatist candidates then wonder why no one left of them really wants to vote for them. I’ve been whipped on by them so long to “Vote Blue No Matter Who” I’m going to tell them to pound dirt if they select Newsom. This entire “voting for the lesser evil” bullshit is so old. When we had a chance to get someone decent in office they pulled the rug out from under him to put in Hillary. Nope, not playing that game anymore Neo-Libs. You’re just as bad as the Republicans to me now.
Anywhere else in the country, Newsom would have run as a Republican.
Genuinely, if Newsom is selected by the Democratic party in 2028, nothing will change and we’ll be staring down the barrel of
trump 2.0the next fake populist/fascist in 2032.There are only two ways for the Democratic party to be relevant at this point:
- Support politicians who bring actual change to improve people’s lives
- Actually punish Republican politicians for all of the crimes that they are doing in broad daylight right now.
But the Dems showed in NY how they feel about #1, and are refusing to do anything with #2 in Minnesota (and completely fumbled the opportunity they had over the last few
yearsdecades nationwide)Edit: for the pedantic twats that couldn’t infer my meaning
All the not-Republicans need to pick a leader now. Before one is picked for them.
We never pick a leader, that’s a role exclusively delegated to the party. We have the illusion of choice with primaries but in the end the party always gets their pick
Only because we don’t do it. That’s the entire point. If we let the party do it as before we get Newsome, we lose and if by a miracle he wins nothing changes and he hands it back.
The party establishment’s biggest fear is losing control of the party from the donors’ tools, to popular reformers. That is behind everything they do electorally, in office everything they do also includes extracting money from the federal government for their donors, but winning is not their motivation, it’s keeping the left out.
If their early primary polling doesn’t have their chosen candidate leading they will have the others pull out and endorse who they want like they did Biden.
2020 was one of the few elections where the winner of the California primary didn’t get the party nomination because they forced Biden through by having everyone else backing out and endorse Biden
What is to stop us from doing this to them this time? Split the vote with a conservative democrat, but one on our side ultimately that won’t drop out. Agree with the moderates to drop out, but then change their mind and stay in the race at the last minute.
It’s for their own good. They can’t win.
Jon Stewart or AOC. Right now I see them as the only viable options.
Sawn Fein, UAW boss for the late entry, Stewart and Fein and whatever else protest votes consolidate to one and endorse each other this time before any super tuesday type deal. Don’t let elizabeth warren types play spoiler this time. Our supposed progressive champion knowingly throwing the presidency to Biden, that I knew was going to fail, but she somehow didn’t?
Didn’t Fain pivot to supporting Trump at the last minute when he promised auto tariffs?My mistake, this was after the election
No.
He praised one set of Trumps tariffs last year.
Tariffs are a union issue, and I support tariffs on countries that undercut us on labor and environmental as well. Not supporting that, and rather supporting wall street exporting our jobs, our factories, and our technology, to China and the like, signing 99 year leases and building their factories for them, to be able to enslave their populations, forcing them to work 6-12’s, 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, for starvation wages, and dump their toxins in the ditch, then bring it back here and undercut our remaining industry, forcing everyone to follow suit or go out of business, has led to a race to the bottom, both in labor and environmental regulations and in quality of products.
Only a fool wouldn’t support tariffs as such frankly. Not that the president could be trusted he is bad faith, but if the democrats didn’t abandon the working class the president wouldn’t have been able to do an end run around them, he never would’ve won 2016 without the trade issue he co-opted.
Just because the right co-opts something, do you oppose everything about that all of a sudden? If the republicans accuse you of stealing elections, just as a random hypothetical, while themselves stealing elections, do you defend all elections as safe even as they cheat? Do you not support laws that could provide safeguards against cheating, like giving a ticket with a number to a voter on request that could be referenced to make sure the vote was accurately counted after the fact? Because something has to be done, both because they are cheating, they are projecting that cheating, and the public on both sides doesn’t trust the elections anymore.
Same with trade, we all know globalism, neoliberalism, sold out the working classes, in the developed world, and most of all in the developing world being enslaved for the ruling class in those countries to develop, to use the greed of wall street to supplant those countries, to turn the inventors of the technology into consumers and not producers of those products it used to export, and cheap versions that break early at that.
As Bernie Sanders said when the president was elected in 2016, he was ready to work with him on trade on issues to protect the working class, even as we acknowledge he’s not in good faith and will not do it equitably. But evening the playing field to prevent selling out the working classes with tariffs is a Union Issue.
That’s my mistake, I thought that happened before the election.
Idk. I’m not going to hold that against Fain, there are obvious reasons to need to support Tariffs given his position.
Have you seen Hilary making the rounds? Its fucking sick.
The only thing I’ve seen is her saying proudly that Bill and Obama were able to deport more people than trump “without killing people”
Which was pretty jarring. I don’t really understand who that rhetoric is supposed to appeal to.
the further left we go the better
revolution is coming
shut down the country until the mods of hexbear are made leaders
they will save the world
i don’t want to endorse this as i don’t want to get banned or arrested but the further left we go we are headed to a utopia
i see it now
I mean, yeah
We already have Trump 2.0
I think they mean whoever the next fascist is to become President once Trump is gone.
The shitlibs are desperate for the next fascist to be Newsom. If he won, then after his one and only disastrous term, we will get full blown Handmaids Tale in retaliation. If he loses — which is more likely — we just go straight to Handmaids Tale.
The only way this cycle is broken is by filling government with leftist reformationists and aggressively hunting and punishing every last Republican nazi. If a candidate isn’t a member of the DSA or something similar, they must be crushed by any and all means.
I have to assume at this point that anyone defending Newsom as a viable, reasonable candidate is a foreign agent.
Unless you’re referring to conspiracy theories about being replaced by a clone, I’m pretty sure it’s still the same guy
yes, trump 2.0 usually refers to this being his 2nd term. lets stay in reality please, its bad enough with out adding conspiracy theories.
Trump is still Trump, he has a second term, but he is still the same trump. No one calls the same person in their 2nd term “2.0” Trump 2.0 will be whoever the person that replaces Trump will be. He’ll be younger, and possibly more dangerous.
I got what you think the phrase ment but it has ready been taken to represent his second term.
By whom? Do you call FDR’s last term Roosevelt 4.0?
No, because no one called him that the way the internet, here in the real world, called Trump 2.0. Thanks for joining us.
libs in this thread, having already settled for mediocrity 2 years before there’s an election lol
like yea guys, keep putting shitass unappealing candidates and blaming their loss on scary internet communists who, as we all know, actually account for most of the non-voting population in the US. it worked so well the last checks notes 2 times.
Last 3x, and it’s the same strategy they’ve been running for 36 years, since 1990 with Bill Clinton, Epstein super friend. Total coincicence I’m sure that the democratic party was captured by a faction of the ruling class right when the israeli honeypot operation ensnared them all in child fucking blackmail, and god knows what else they have them on.
It’s not just about Israel is the thing. It’s a lot of the same billionaires with designs on the US to follow in that direction. And we don’t know who all got copies of what blackmail they accumulated over three decades.
Democrats when they lose: “This is all the left’s fault!”
When they win: “We didn’t need the left at all!”
Vote in the primary and STFU, the constant division and derision is infuriating.
Two years away. Useless to even talk about this. Everyone remember desantis? Yeah, see how that turned out.
Relax and vote in every election, especially primaries. But yeah… Relax.
Pelosi is pushing Gavin Newsom, which is why people are not happy.
Pelosi has a lot of political clout amongst the establishment Dems. And she’s going to absolutely lose it for them if she continues.
After throwing 2024 to push both Biden and Kamala she should not have any clout left, but she does. Which indicates a larger problem with the Democrats than only Pelosi.
Like all neo-liberals, they’re 10 degrees left of center at the best of times, 10 degrees right if it affects them personally. Love them, love them, they’re a liberal.
And we wait two years and people say oh well let’s pick the safe option and we have the most corporate candidate shoved down our throats again for the fourth time (Hilary, Biden, Kamala, and I guess Newsom)
We can’t wait, our problems are too large in this country. We need significant changes, fdr level.
If we elect another corporate candidate then our fate is sealed, pretty much proves magas point and we leave room for fascism.
Scratch a neo-liberal a fascist bleeds. I see no difference between them now and yeah, I’m with a friend. If Gruesome Newsom ends up being the pick for the Dems I’m abstaining. This “lesser evil” election mantra isn’t working anymore.
progressive credentials
He’s only progressive if you squint a little, really want very badly to see him as progressive, and then pretend his actions line up with his progressive speech. And even the left-most of his speech is really milquetoast progressive, like elevator muzak rock and roll.
Keep posting this headline. I’ll keep upvoting it.
When the governor launched his podcast “This Is Gavin Newsom” a year ago, he began warmly showcasing extremist bigots by featuring Charlie Kirk as his first guest. And when Kirk was assassinated in September, Newsom lavished praise on him. “The best way to honor Charlie’s memory,” he tweeted, “is to continue his work:
He does fine as a thorn in Trump’s side. But that’s it.
You mean he does fine as the WWE kfabe opponent to Trump who performs the character of a resistance fighter on stage right?
For a corporate Dem like Newsom, that’s the most we’re ever going to get is theatre. So yeah.
To this post’s point, hell no on rallying behind him in ‘28. There are those who claim the DNC leadership has evolved and won’t be captured by corporate interests this time around. I think whether they attempt to shove Newsom down our throats is the perfect test of this theory.
Unfortunately, so much hangs in the balance of that decision. Really hate the two party trap we’re living in, at times like this especially.
The DNC is as arrogant and misguided as ever. They didn’t admit they made a mistake, they blamed the left for the loss, as always. They hired influence agencies to be shitty to us online even. They were backed up by right wing influence operations pretending to be us to push their doomed to fail candidates in primary season, too, or annointment season as 2024 was. As we only had 4 plus months, how could we possibly run a challenge in that time? /s Think of all the missed fundraising opportunities! That was their actual argument at the time.
If Newsome was presidential material, he would’ve stood up and taken the presidency in 2024 when we needed someone that could win. He can’t win now. Now that it’s his turn with the party establishment.
The cycle may be broken this year anyway as the feds will be indicting democrats on false vote rigging charges probably the fall after this one. Newsome will be their main target as he’s the likely contender as they see it, just as Hillary was known to have the agreement with the weak democratic party somehow all sewn up after Obama made a deal with her to stand down (after Obama already won in 2008, there was no reason to make a deal, and it’s not his place to make a deal, and no one in the party should respect such a deal, where is the ambition? But that is where we are at.) So they focused on attacking her. After the president’s first term biden was known to be the frontrunner, assumed the weak democrats would make sure that unpopular old bitch got the nomination, and they spent their time attacking him.
We’ve election thievery to deal with this time, 7 new ways from sunday, on top of whatever else they are already doing. States, counties, and the feds, all cheating in every way they can, and the national party gearing up to simply not recognize the popular vote if it goes against them. Not recognize the popular vote to decide who gets electors I mean obviously. And many states have given their state legislatures back the power to award them in defiance of their States’ popular votes, including GA, WI, and AZ, and a bunch of the shitholy(er) ones.
Newsome won’t prevail against that, only an aggressive populist reformer with an organized citizenry could.
At this point, I would vote for an upturned mop painted with lipstick for president.
Be careful, I am pretty sure a similar sentiment amongst disenfranchised conservatives is what lead to Trump getting elected
Of course a mop with lipstick does seem more qualified considering it is not a rapist, thief, and liar.
Any sane person would, but these kids would have you believe the perfection is out there waiting to be voted for.
Not looking for perfection, I just don’t want the second coming of Ronald Reagan.
And that they would actually turn up and vote instead of finding some other purity test to justify staying home.
Newsome is a DINO.
He is slightly left of Bush a few issues.
Here come the protest voters to ensure Trump’s legacy continues.
I am trying to get us to win by having a candidate that actually has a chance, which Gavin doesn’t because the more everybody learns about him nationally the less people like him, what the hell are you trying to do?
Your just here to slam dems. Happens every election cycle. Flick off and eat trash you Russian bot.
I make a good chunk of the posts on the Ukraine sopuli community to pro-Ukrainian news coverage, you could not have picked a worse lazy accusation to throw clumsily in my direction. Check my post history, and next time think before you type :)
I’m trying to ensure that people have learned from past mistakes that perfect isn’t obtainable right now and in these desperate times we need to just fucking vote AGAINST fascism regardless of who it is that is standing in it’s way.
But if you really feel the need to rally people into falsely assuming that a perfect candidate is worth holding out for- I guess it’s that’s all the proof needed that we collectively haven’t learned shit, and probably just deserve the shit we’re forced to endure.
If Newsome is your choice then apparently you don’t even think good is obtainable right now.
At this point- I don’t give a shit because ANYTHING is better than a fascist Nazi.
That you don’t agree says a lot more about you I’d say.
I don’t disagree that Gavin is better than actual fascists, but we have two years to actually come up with someone better and protecting him now when it’s obvious how garbage he is isn’t helping us.
I do. Gavin Newsome is a fascist. He is in bed with big tech, who are fascists, and cozies up to fascists like Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk. He openly admits that his son is a fascist and he doesn’t care. He vetos human rights bills. He tries to make life unlivable for homeless people. He is a fascist.
So again, the nuance of the topic is lost-
IF- Gavin is the one to remain standing, I am suggesting we vote for him.
Big IF.
This isn’t to suggest that I support everything he is about- but I’d vote for anyone over suffering a single extra day with an addled gelatinous child molesterer.
And to be honest- if who ever is out there that is better, and they don’t stand and be counted soon, I will have zero faith that they’re the right person.
So this eliminates any 11th hour arrivals of spoiler 3rd party idiots that disappear and reappear like cicadas every four years. Say what you will about Gavin, but he’s getting his hands dirty at least. And that means more than the silence from [candidate].
Trump is the result of “lesser of two evils” voting. Maybe try doing something different this time?
Im not holding out for a perfect candidate, I am holding out for a candidate that isn’t worse than useless as far as the objective of winning is concerned.
Are you not reading my words? How many times do I have to say this?
Gavin will lose, that is that reality, I am trying to be proactive and raise awareness so we can put our energy into candidates and movements that actually have a fighting chance.
Okay… word it in whatever way paints the prettiest picture of hopeful rhetoric as you’d like, however, at the end of the day, you’re basically saying you refuse to vote against a fascist unless the person running against them meets some weird purity test that defies gradation.
It’s pretty fucking simple bud…. If we have no other options you FUCKING VOTE AGAINST the FASCIST. There is no debating this.
I honestly cannot believe we’re still having to teach this shit to people.
Never said I refused to vote, never said the candidate had to be perfect.
What you seem to refuse to understand is that we have far better options than Gavin Newsom both from a policy standpoint and an electability standpoint.
Get out of here with your accusations I have some weird purity test, I am applying basic political competency standards here and Gavin desperately fails them.
LMAO…
Two years prior to an election, you’re already salivating over anyone that isn’t him. You don’t even know who that is- but NOT Gavin is clearly your angle here.
This is as bad faith as it gets and whatever you’re up to, I have doubts that it has anything to do with what you’re on about.
Two years prior to an election, you’re already salivating over anyone that isn’t him. You done even know who that is- but NOT Gavin is clearly your angle here
Right, now is too early and later will be too late I know how this one goes…
This shit. This shit right here is how trump won.
Go to hell Russian bot. I swear this happens every election now
Yes me the poster who vomits up article links to pro-Ukrainian news almost every day is a Russian bot.
Lol facepalm
Yet you are in fact leading us to failure and blaming the victims of you believing the wrong people for that failure. How many times must you be lied to before you question who you trust for information?
If you don’t vote against a fascist, yes. You are to blame for the fascist. I thought this was pretty clear back in November and reiterated daily since then.
The issue is your supporting candidates and platforms that can’t win. Assuming everyone arguing for popular reform didn’t vote is obscuring the issue with slander.
The issue is your supporting candidates and platforms that can’t win
Meanwhile. You seem to take no issue with 3rd party voters. I’m just not going to bother to take you seriously from here on out, but do go on!
We already know what the situation is, and yet you continue to yell down calls for popular reform, then blame the voters for doing what we already knew they would do.
Really it’s just arrogance on the part of the people whose lead you are following. Arrogance, dereliction of duty, and a host of other terms. As if the country had no other options, was at the mercy of the oligarchy powerless to force a candidate not whoring for their unpopular agenda, while their other monster is escaping their control and is actively and openly fixing elections to kill the republic in all but name.
Preventing representative government from being killed in all but name, for the worst people in the world at that, is the reason for being of these lawmakers, the courts, etc. It’s a betrayal of their oaths, and their citizens, and decency, to allow the republic to be turned into an autocracy, one with unthinkable results at that.
As I said, you are following the lead of politicians that use slander to obscure the issue, the issue being the oligarchy captured the democrats and only allow weak sold out unpopular candidates. Which has enabled republicans to win, and now permanently fix elections. Our last chance to stop them in the succession fight is now being sabotaged by you, deferring to the ones that just brought us kamala.
What do you call doing the same thing and expecting different results? That’s you.
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Every time these “less than perfect” candidates get elected they end up screwing us over and giving the Republicans fertile ground to expand their power networks. We’ve given such fake saviors countless opportunities and look where it’s landed us.
It’s going to take more than a good show of being anti-Nazi.
They never reverse any of the facist policies either
Oh look! Here’s one now to tell us that… [checks notes] apparently, the democrats elected Trump.
tell us
I’m not telling you anything. This message is for the Democratic leadership, on the off chance that they actually listen to anyone.
Stop sidelining good candidates in favor of the “lessor evil” and the voters will deliver. Just look at NYC.
Where’s your “good candidate?” Name them.
That was already answered in my post. You just need to know a little bit about NYC for it to be obvious.
So, no one. Got it. Thanks for playing.
Never heard of NY huh?
