• xenomor@lemmy.world
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    Can we take a moment to acknowledge how weak trump’s raised fist always looks? I mean, look at this photo. Very limp and dainty.

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      On one hand, nukes have been a clear deterrent for most of the time they have existed. Their use in these operations against Iran wouldn’t just be unprecedented, but it would be wasteful too: what targets require such firepower instead of other, more sensible options? It’s ironic, but nukes are arguably worse weapons when deployed versus sitting in their silos while deployment is threatened.

      That said, “unprecedented” doesn’t mean much any more, and Trump is totally the kind of person who would drop one just because he can. Instead of “I am become death” we’d get “I am dropping a big, beautiful bomb. Thank you for your attention to this matter.”

      But the repercussions would be massive. On a scale not yet seen. I’m not talking about repercussions from Iran: the world would need to stand up against MAGA in a big way. Much bigger than has happened so far. I’m not even sure what it would look like, frankly.

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        The end of Season One of “Years and Years”.

        Funny how people use other movies like Idiocracy to compare where we are, but I never see this one mentioned. It’s a UK drama and the US is in the background, but the parallels that we do see are disturbingly close. Particularly in how the world shut out the US as it declined into a fascist state.

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    From a different article:

    “We haven’t even started hitting them hard. The big wave hasn’t even happened. The big one is coming soon,” Mr. Trump said, telling CNN it was unclear who was now leading Iran.

    “We don’t know who the leadership is. We don’t know who they’ll pick,” he said.

    What’s your actual fucking goal? I don’t get what they intend to hit here. They’re making it actually impossible for Iran to do the thing they want.

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      What’s your actual fucking goal?

      I’d wager that the part they aren’t saying out loud has to do with a few different things:

      1. Distraction from Epstein, which seems to be working. Iran operations now dominate the news cycle.

      2. War offers some economic gains, at least in the short term for a few big players.

      3. War fits into the “law and order” narrative Trump is desperately trying to milk, in a way that the DHS debacles have not done. Unprovoked attack on Iran even just as a show of force has been a conservative wet dream since at least the Bush Jr. days.

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        Each day this happens it looks like they’re trying to breed more terrorists too.

        They’ve now blown up a hospital apparently, on top of the elementary school.

        Things were relatively quiet since ISIS/Daesh got destroyed. This is just going to make the world worse.

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          Daesh isn’t destroyed, it’s dormant. This will almost certainly cause a resurgence, they already killed two syrian soldiers in an attack today

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        \4. Zelensky told him that Ukraine has it in their Constitution that they don’t hold elections during times of war. He thinks this applies to the US Constitution.

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        Honestly, as much as I hate the Epstein distraction narrative, it probably did play a role because Trump is petty like that. At the same time, this distraction is much more impactful than what it’s distracting from.

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          yeah, I hate that “EVERYTHING IS A DISTRACTION!!!” now.

          It’s fucking NOT. I’m sure they ARE trying to do some things as distractions, but most of it is just simply evil.

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            The annoying part is that the Epstein files would never turn many cultists. Most are fine with it or are willing to look past it. Many just reject that it exists.

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      The goal is to keep war going until at least November, so it can be used to cancel or ignore midterms. Having no defined goals is essential to that.

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        If we start seeing a bunch of “Don’t change horses midstream” political commercials soon, then I know we’re in a simulation, and the creators are just lazy, pulling from “Wag the Dog” because they’re out of ideas.

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          Don’t change horses midstream

          Fuck that, put those horses down and turn them into glue.

        • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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          Rhaedas! Rhaedas! Wake up! We’ve been trying to wake you up for months now! Come on, man, wake up! You gotta be hearing us in your dreams, man, come on, man, wakf09234r 5tKT23 #:$LT #$@# $J% $R# $J#$DO NOT CHANGE HORSES MIDSTREAM. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP TRUMP IN POWER SO THE WORLD IS SAFE AND PEACEFUL. DO NOT VOTE AGAINST TRUMP OR WE WILL DO BAD THINGS TO YOU. AGAIN. DON’T YOU REMEMBER? DON’T YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME?

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      The thing they want is an external distraction so people will quit paying attention to domestic issues. Bonus points if Iran actually manages to become enough of a problem to “justify” emergency powers for the president. They don’t actually give two fucks what the final outcome for Iran is.

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      “We don’t know who the leadership is. We don’t know who they’ll pick,”

      Is that why the US is shooting down it’s own planes already?

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      Ultimately bullies just want to bully. They don’t want anything from their target except to reflect back to them an image of their desired power.

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      The only thing they want is for Iran to be a distraction from the Trump-Epstein files and from the midterms in the fall.

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    Fuck, he’s going to nuke that one deep reactor site, isn’t he? Just because he can.

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    Ah yes, the genius tactic from Sun Tzu’s The Art of War - always tell everybody what you’re gonna do

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      If you go by Sun Tzu he has done literally everything wrong.

      If you want your enemy to acquiesce you give them an out, but instead they’re pushing them against a wall, which only strengthens your enemies resolve since there’s no other option.

      That’s why Obama’s nuclear deal was working. But these apes in the Trump admin don’t understand, they only understand “bug smash” levels of reasoning.

      I did like when he said they were so “successful” at trying to force regime change they killed every option they felt was agreeable. Great, you’ve successfully started a forever war instead of the quick regime change you wanted. Success!

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        We joke about Sun Tzu’s advice being obvious, but it’s the advice that an emotionally driven narcissistic nepo baby needs, because that’s who historically has been in charge of militaries. Anyone who understands people knows that cornered people don’t surrender unless the risk benefit feels worth it, but people who don’t understand other people’s mindsets and are focused on glory/conquest are going to think that you can bomb a regime into peaceful surrender and that they’ll gladly give up their leaders. No, you make moderates into combatants like that.

        Iran was having mass protests for liberalization. We could have been the heroes offering an out to the leaders and helping establish a liberal republic giving favorable deals. Make Iran into an ally for less money than war. But no, that’s not a dick measuring contest that shows how tough they are and so now a bunch of children will die and Iran will continue to hate us for good reason.

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          The Art of War was literally written for fuckass nobles with zero common sense.

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            Do you have any better ideas on who to make generals? /s

            But yeah, facials nobles, bloodthirsty morons, dick measuring dipshits, and anyone who thinks the fact that they have power means they’re good at things are the exact audiences of the book. That’s also why it blew American businesspeople’s minds.

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    Could he maybe say something that means something. Thanks.

    Also:

    I just got off the phone with President Trump," Tapper explained. "The president said, quote, we’re knocking the crap out of them. I think it’s going very well. It’s very powerful. They’ve got the greatest military in the world, and we’re using it.

    Err who is “they”? Logically that would mean Israel right? Did he just tell a journalist Israel has the greatest military in the world?

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      American lives are being lost in this war for Zionists, and he praises Israel’s military.

      Epstein really was a Mossad agent.

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    Ten years ago I used to make the argument that having a psychopath with the mind of a toddler controlling the nukes was enough reason for supporting him to be and inherently insane, irrational act of pure irresponsibility. Everyone said I was over-reacting.

    Christ.

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    Remember how shocked everyone became when it was revealed that some rich dudes enjoy watching torture videos and paedophilia? Maybe we should treat this the same (I mean better, because nothing was done for the former). It should scare the U.S. population that their president enjoys murdering people – enough to take it seriously and take real action against it.

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    If ONLY there was SOMETHING we could Do! Wait! I GOT it! Let’s write a SEMI STERN Letter!

    -US Congress!