I used to be strictly materialist and atheist. Now I’m pretty spiritual. Don’t necessarily follow a religion and don’t support bigotry but yeah, I’m fairly spiritual now. This is a recent development and I never thought I’d be here like 5 years ago.
In high school, I was pro-death penalty. As part of a class on politics, I was randomly assigned the anti-death penalty position to research and debate on. I very quickly changed my opinion when I learned about the systemic racism involved. Now I’m an anarchist
That escalated randomly.
Death penalty carceral state - carceral state - state -
state
I think I’m starting to lean that way as well, I definitely understand society and norms are an illusion of structure, but I used to think it was good, productive, now I think that theater is hurting us.
When people stop working towards the structure and begin to exploit it instead…
yep exactly. I really am just wondering how much this is recent failures or has it just always been this fucked up and we were sold lies growing up.
I used to be anti-death. Now I am in the pro-death camp. This is because if a 2nd American War is concluded, we will be left with many living MAGA in our prisons. Do we really want to house members of ICE in our prisons for life, or allow them to once again walk the streets they terrorized? Members of the Trump Regime willfully given up their humanity in all the ways.
I cannot help but feel that executing them all will allow us to allocate more resources towards the people who matter: children, immigrants, and others who still have their humanity.
I feel that but also recoginize the inherent dark irony.
It is called the tolerance paradox. If you want a truly tolerant society you can’t tolerate intolerance.
Yeah. It is problematic: On one paw, it is definitely evil to kill people. On the other, it is also evil to allow rapists, thieves, and murderers to have a high chance of doing so again.
It sucks. 😞
we will be left with many living MAGA in our prisons
Conveniently they’ve been building tons of prisons that could be put to use for this
No. Those aren’t fit for human habitation in the first place.
I used to joke about eating two animals for every one a vegetarian didn’t eat. I’ve been vegan for over a decade now, pulled a bit of an uno reverse in my early twenties.
Oh great. Now I gotta eat four animals. I’m never gonna finish lunch.
You can switch to crickets, I think that’s your best murder per Kg ratio.
Larvae or maggot-based dishes would be my go-to. Or maybe edible mite gulls, which IIRC is a thing. You go too small and at some point you end up with questions about if the critters are so simple they’re actually vegetarian, though.
How do you get your protein? I’ve been doing the plants - and eating beans a lot - but this last week I ate some meatballs in my soups and boy - I really crave the meat.
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I eat a lot of tofu, soy curls, and chickpeas,mostly. I haven’t had much issue.
Here’s sort of a strange question. Not too strange though ;-)
Let’s say you had a basic rice and beans meal - garlic … onions … root vegetables … blackbeans and redbeans … then kale roots and final kale leafs … salt pepper
What spices do you use? What are your favorites?
For that kind of a meal I usually season simply with salt and pepper, but then make up a dressing or sauce to go over it, something like a pesto or maybe a carrot ginger dressing.
Thanks. I’ll try that.
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God it’s awkward now to look back but I used to vote conservative.
There’s a phrase here “temporarily embarrassed millionaires”, referring to people who vote for policies that benefit wealth people because they identify as a wealthy person even though they are absolutely not. That was me.
And America is doing it again. While I think Iran’s government is even more evil, a war is not the right thing to do.
Idk why we’ve reached the point where anyone saying they’re anything but an atheist has to specify that they aren’t a bigot. Being religious doesn’t make you a bigot and being atheist doesn’t mean you aren’t one either.
I had a similar 180 though, I used to be an atheist but in the last year or so I pivoted into druidism. Turns out following a religion that focuses on spending time in nature helps to get you out of the house when you’re going though a depressive episode.
Idk why we’ve reached the point where anyone saying they’re anything but an atheist has to specify that they aren’t a bigot
The main issue is that the cohort of people with megaphones broadcasting their spirituality is virtually entirely comprised of profiteers.
Like all such parasites they follow the pattern of establishing out groups for you to despise, simply because it drives engagement better. Same reason all major social media now attempts to shape you into a being of hatred and impulse. It keeps you stressed and activated so you jump at the opportunity when they offer to let you spend money to blow off some of the steam.
Bigotry as a phenomenon has many origins, but wherever it springs from it ultimately doubles as an inherently appealing strategy for those who wish wring dry their community.
At any rate, as we all sit here dying around the same poisoned watering hole, we see these profiteers dressing just like us while actively dumping the poison in. Ashamed, we feel compelled to proclaim, “I am not them! They only wear my clothes!”
Spirituality is an incredibly comfortable and practical “clothing” for many people. You’re absolutely correct in drawing attention to how bad it sucks that the people who embrace that comfort now feel pained to differentiate themselves from the abusers who pervert their fashion
Yeah, I had a world-shaking 180 for spirituality after I read about Zen Buddhism.
I was a really proud atheist and thought all religions were just believing in something supernatural. Until I actually gave an intellectually honest try at understanding them. Most theistic religions I couldn’t get on board with but after I read Three Pillars of Zen, something just clicked and I joined my local sangha. Also begun to understand a bit more about religiosity in general after, though I’m still not a fan of Abrahamic religions in particular.
You say you were “intellectually honest” so I’m curious what it was about Zen that appealed to that kind of approach?
The way I was introduce to it framed it specifically as not believing in anything you can’t verify in your own direct experience. The book I read ( https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/89766/the-three-pillars-of-zen-by-roshi-philip-kapleau/ ) was actually pretty mercilessly pointing out how much of what I thought to be obviously true was actually just a belief. Meaning what I think is the average westerner experience of the world as explained by science. It didn’t offer me a set of ideas to believe in, it offered me a way of disbelieving anything I couldn’t know for myself to be true.
Like I said it was pretty world shattering. I realized there is a world BEFORE any thought and that is definitely more real than anything I can think about. I joined the local sangha because things got a little weird for me for a time and my friends kinda thought I was going crazy haha but in my perspective they were the ones alarmingly missing something incredibly important. And I still kinda think they are but it’s not my place to try to “convert” them. Since there’s no point. You need to have the active desire to actually understand.
But aren’t there things that you can objectively know to be true? Wouldn’t this just lead to believing whatever you want to believe?
I feel a little timid about trying to answer this because at this point, I know that people can talk about these things intellectually forever and it just won’t… click. It’s so hard to write about too because if I tried to write in a way that very perfectly reflects my experience, the text becomes weird and cumbersome ( and then when I don’t, people try some gotchas like “ahaa but you refer yourself as “I”, doesn’t that mean you still believe in an individual self”, no but writing more precisely gets in the way of the message ).
First, believing whatever I want to believe is definitely a danger and actually you see this a lot in spiritual discourse that leans towards Buddhism, especially via New Age stuff and “McMindfulness”. Many people happily discard the mainstream beliefs but then they get hooked on their idea of what is true. But the merciless approach that Zen Buddhism has is that nothing you think about is totally true. It’s more like a reflection in a mirror ( Interestingly Plato was also alluding to this in his Allegory of The Cave, so this realization isn’t unique to Zen ).
That includes the concept of “objectivity”. Objectivity relies on the idea that there is some external third party to human experience. But once I looked, or more like was forced to face it, I realized that there is no such thing. I can exchange ideas with what appear to be other people and have an agreement. Like we can probably both agree that we’re looking at a screen now. I anticipate an objection here on the “other people”. I don’t know if “other people” exist outside of me but I know that I don’t have control over anything that appears in my mind. Something that I can call “other people” appears, and they have their likes and dislikes and it can be painful if I’m not respectful of that. This is where compassion teachings come in.
Oh and I’m not anti-science at all. Science is great at revealing patterns in the way things appear. Happy to go get my vaccinations and all that.
Tell me you had a certain experience without telling me you had a certain experience.
Were you taught to not talk in certain terms about how your world “shattered”? Because I was.
I was, yes. I think even if I wasn’t I probably wouldn’t use those terms anyway since in online discourse it never looks good.
Okay, thank you for explaining.
I admit I don’t get it, but maybe I’ll consider reading that book. It seems I had a mistaken idea about Buddhism. Or at least Zen Buddhism.
What they describe is similar to the discourse in western philosophy about the mind and the objective reality. There is no way to prove or disprove that the reality exists outside of the mind of the observer, i.e. that solipsism is true or false. But it also follows that solipsism is practically useless. So we must agree that we probably have a shared experience with other people, which we’ll call ‘reality’. Then the question is, how close the experience of one observer is to that of other people. This is where stuff like qualia comes in, which posits that it’s impossible to qualify immediate perceptual experiences, because each person only refers to what they themselves have experienced. It could easily be that one person’s sensory experience and perception of the world is wholly different from that of another person. It seems, though, that in practice we have a shared vocabulary for our perceptions and use that to build our knowledge of the world.
@SenK@lemmy.ca does this sound like an accurate interpretation of your concept?
I had something similar. I grew up catholic and was very devout until I learned some stuff about myself that made me step away for a while. I expected to come back like a year later and join the episcopalians or something, but I wound up an atheist for several years. During that time I was kinda insufferable about it for a while. Then I started exploring pantheism, earth worship, and ancestor devotion because I’d felt I was missing something without religion and lighting candles to talk to my mom helped me cope with how much of my life she doesn’t get to be there for. Later an acid trip and some exploration would help me delve deeper and find the goddess I primarily pray to these days. Somewhere later I started using the Wiccan holidays because they’re really convenient for solar and seasonal observance and meditation. They also help make it so I don’t wonder where the hell the year went.
So yeah, catholic to atheist to pagan. There are many paths up the mountain, find the path that is best for you and makes you better.
Idk why we’ve reached the point where anyone saying they’re anything but an atheist has to specify that they aren’t a bigot
Most “spiritual” people adhere to one of the big organized religions, and those kinda suck in general and are rarely content to leave nonbelievers in peace.
The biggest organised religion is realism.
If we’re free to redefine “religion” as we see fit, I declare breathing a religion.
I think some people can be overly smug about their lack of belief, but I don’t think that means it’s akin to a religion
Realism isn’t about lack of belief. Solipsism is about lack of belief. Realism is about an unshakeable faith in the existence of an external world beyond the senses. Soulism is about making the best of the world within one’s senses. Out of the three main approaches to reality, the realists have the most belief, and are most easily cut down by Occam’s razor. That a world beyond our senses exists is an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. It is nothing to base one’s life around. It is better to work to improve the malleable world within our senses, than to strive for Plato’s world of forms.
The biggest organized religion is breathing
We don’t live in a society that persecutes people for not breathing, but we do live in a society that persecutes people for not believing in reality. Genocides have been committed in the name of reality.
A genocide for not believing in reality?
Yep. Aboriginal folks don’t tend to teach their kids the white idea of reality. I’ve heard from some Indigenous people that their culture (keep in mind, there are many Aboriginal cultures) doesn’t believe in reality at all.
So the white people took Aboriginal kids away from their families and put them in white institutions and with white parents. Took away their language, their culture, their land, and gave them white patriarchal realism instead. And there was a hell of a lot of abuse. Beatings and rape. They called it “civilising” the children.
It was an attempt to exterminate Aboriginal cultures. I call that genocide.
idea of reality
Let me stop you right there bud. Reality is or isn’t. There is no idea about it.
What you’re talking about is racism.
How can you not believe in reality? Do they think we live in the Matrix?
The biggest organized religion is breathing
There are LGBT friendly churches run by LGBT Christians. Are they conveniently ignoring certain parts of the Bible? Sure but all Christians do that
an atheist has to specify that they aren’t a bigot
Being religious doesn’t make you a bigot
Looking at the entire history of (a) faith-based religion, versus (b) evidence-based science
I have to say:
- learn history
- fuck you, you ignorant evil-enabling asshat
There’s no denying that most of the major religions are rooted in racism, and many still promote hate against certain people.
That being said, “fuck you, you ignorant evil enabling asshat” sure sounds like you are making assumptions and vilifying someone you’ve never met based on one trait that you do not agree with.
Sorry, bro, but you’ve become the monster you’re trying to fight.
evidence based science conducted the Tuskegee Syphilis Study. Let’s infect black people with syphilis and see what happens! They aren’t really people, so are like monkeys so if they die from untreated diseases it’s not a big deal!
scientific practice both past and present is often rife with racism.
but don’t let the facts of the world get in the way of your worship of science as a religion.
Guaranteed that was run by Christian White Racists
Arguing for faith is literally saying “I will believe anything on no evidence, and I think the following…”
Sorry, I stopped listening when you told me you don’t know how to think as an adult
right, anyone who says anything that disproves you is wrong and bad.
clearly throwing tantrums and calling people names is a thing only very mature adults too. toddlers don’t do that… ever
Certain units of the Japanese Army conducted a lot of inhumane scientific experiments on human subjects they racially discriminated against during WWII, and the evidence collected was retained by the USA.
I want to note that none of this was valid science, the results were worthless because they prioritized torture and didn’t document their “experiments” and their results properly. Same for medical Nazi “research”.
Though it’s true that you don’t need religion to do evil acts.
Maybe the Japanese Empire didn’t, but the Nazis were explicitly Christian.
Not really. They were certainly white supremacists and hated Jews, but Christianity didn’t really play a big role in their ideology. They spent a lot more time supressing local churches than going on about how christian they are, and many of them were very interested in pagan religions.
This is revisionist bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany#Accommodation_to_Nazism
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-role-of-clergy-and-church-leaders
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-german-churches-and-the-nazi-state
the us thought they were getting a deal from the japanese when they conducting biological experiments on chinese people, but they were getting all fluff results
I used to be anti-nuclear energy until I learned a bunch of science and engineering behind it. Turns out things are less scary when you know more about them.
Edit: I also learned that it’s okay, and usually preferable, to not have a strong opinion about things that you don’t know about.
Frankly, the second one is the bigger deal.
Doesn’t matter how great the engineering is behind it, it’s the human part that scares me.
I suppose that is true of everything in the world though. Cars jump to mind pretty quickly.
And as we can see cars are a disaster in every way shape or form. People routinely misuse them, luckily the harm they do is taking out a family of four as some drunk or distracted driver crashes into them. When a nuclear power plant fails, it takes out an entire city.
But there are many more car accidents, so the cities are taken out anyway, but one family at a time.
I used to be strictly against nuclear energy until like 2025 or so.
I recently looked into it again due to a school project and realized that nuclear energy is actually fine. Renewable energy is still better but nuclear energy is fine. The biggest problem with nuclear energy is high cost; And renewable energy is just nuclear energy with the most difficult parts outsourced (to the sun).
I used to believe the centrist idea that America needs a strong Republican Party and a strong Democratic Party.
The GOP actively calls all democrats and liberals enemies, demons, terrorists, etcetera while giving the billionaires all on our public wealth, tax breaks and subsidies.
America does not need the GOP at all.
One issue with this is both are right of center.
And exist in a system that can only support two parties, which means that the most effective strategy is not to convince voters that your pictures are superior but to convince them not to vote for the other party. Cue a race to the bottom.
You’re basically down to 0 strong parties. And really 2 is a minimum, since if there’s more, the other parties can just go around any one or two that are being dumb.
The GOP put itself on the fascist downward spiral when the Federalist society took over.
The Democrats started their slow decline when they put Truman as FDR’s VP. Pushing out the left wing part of the party that gave it massive electoral power for a generation.
Google, Reddit, etc. are good. Now I know the horrors and they are obviously our worst enemies.
That we don’t need school and it’s useless. I used to not like going to school when I was younger. Now I love it and look forward to almost every day, especially now that this is my last year in high school.
Google once had the Slogan “dont be evil” but not anymore.
Yeah I used to love google. They were the plucky upstart disrupting the microsoft ecosystem.
Used to be that Google offered applications and services that rivaled or surpassed the established pay-for alternatives. Now… FOSS is the new Google, Google is the new Microsoft, and Microsoft is innovating a whole new category of shitty and ubiquitous slopware.
Nah, FOSS isn’t the new google.
It’s a normal part of a market cycle that a cheeky upstart, a disruptor, will enter with less inertia and a fresh approach. Inevitably they become the incumbent with the same problems as those they displaced.
I think FOSS holds the same position it always has - low cost, generally low “perceived” quality. However, as the higher perceived quality brands become hostile to users regarding privacy and features like AI, that perception of quality around FOSS is changing, but not to an extent that’s significant in the market.
What I mean is, FOSS has become an appealing option to you and I because we care about privacy. In general though FOSS is in the same position it always has been.
When forced to make a profit by the profit focused side of reality, idealism has traditionally fractured.
There are plenty of nonprofit organizations that have existed for more than 100 years.
In fact, I would say there’s a better track record for such organizations than there has been for publicly traded capitalist enterprises, which tend to pop in and out of existence like bubbles by comparison. The only ‘for profit’ enterprises with comparable longevity are businesses that have have been owned by the same family for generations.
Well, both started out fine. It’s just that greed always drives everything down the shitter.
I remember feeling that “We’re cooked” feeling when Wall Street came out. Everyone was shouting “Greed Is Good!” without irony.
I didn’t know what that feeling was then, just the sensation of a huge void falling in my gut.
Had that feeling a few times in life now.
I used to be excited and optimistic about new technologies. Now I’m just jaded.
Israel.
I thought it was complicated but they had a right to the land because of the holocaust, that countries around them should learn to get along with Israel
Now I know founding Israel was a mistake. Explicitly saying it’s a Jewish state will inevitably lead to other groups being suppressed, i.e. Apartheid if not outright genocide. And they are not hated in the region because Muslims and Jews cannot get along, but because Israel was built entirely on stolen land, and they are still in the process of stealing more and genocide those who stand in their way
This is mine, as well. I used to abhor anything negative about Israel. Now I am the one saying presumed abhorrent things.
It does help explain why people can be anti immigrant. Just look at what the “immigrant” Israelis are doing to the native Palestinians…
(I’m not anti immigrant)
True, but let’s make extra clear that Palestinian resistance is completely different than typical western anti immigrant sentiment. There have been Jews, Christians and Muslims living there for centuries. The problem is not that Jews live there or even that many of them moved there at once. It’s that Israelis set up their own government where native population literally have fewer rights
I wasn’t a supporter of euthanasia until I worked in a residential aged care facility.
That’s dark. People really do just be putting their parents in those buildings to die, aren’t they?
They are. But what’s the alternative? The elderly person who doesn’t know who you are dies their slow, maybe 10 year death in your living room when you don’t have the support you need to care for them? It’s either awful for the elderly person or awful for everyone.
Source: we can’t stomach putting granny in one of those so she lives with us, and I wipe her butt every day. I feel suicidal, and she feels… idk. Because the dementia is too bad for her to really tell me. We can’t put her in one because we know she’ll be abused, but I genuinely can’t and don’t judge anyone who drops their family member off and walks away.
So I keep reading that this activity of putting our old people in senior centers is something only westerners do. We have this kind of fixation on self reliance being the peak of individual achievement and the parent-child relationship being a hurdle to overcome in order to reach that.
My personal recommendation: build a world where personal freedom isn’t intertwined with financial dependence. And also better families who aren’t motivated to get the hell away from eachother as soon as possible. But that’s a pie-in-the-sky, ever elusive transformation that you and I alone can’t make.
For you? I’m so sorry. My cousin has done what you’re doing and it wrecked her irreparably. I should have helped her but I fucking didn’t. She didn’t ask either. If you can, try to get help with your task. Trade off responsibilities, procure healthcare. You shouldn’t have been made to do this alone and you are the exact reason why we can’t afford to keep doing things this way.
Yeah, it’s nuts. I’m one of 15 grand kids, and me and my 3 sisters are the only ones who do anything for her. No one’s doing well enough to really help, so asking just feels like I’ll lose the relationships and still not get any help. There’s definitely resentment building though
Yes, but it’s complex. I helped care for a lovely old Scottish lady, she was so nice everyone was confused as to why her family never visited. Turns out before the dementia set in she was a horriblY abusive person, and none of her kids wants to have anything to do with her.
That’s pretty bad. I wouldn’t doubt that accounts for at least half of them.
At one point I really, truly believed that the internet and social media would be a turning point in human interconnectivity and cultural understanding. The ability to just… talk to someone on the other side of the planet, at will? When we know that exposure to other beliefs and cultures is superb at punching holes in hatred and misunderstanding? Surely this would lead to great things!
Yeah, that was a miss.
Exposure to other is still a fantastic way to grow understanding. But the internet and social media were not a highway to it, and as the “wild west” era of the internet faded and we instead got corporate-governed, algorithm-driven siloization of views, my views on the value of social media changed sharply.
I agree. Though, I think it was less a case of a misguided or overly optimistic view, and more a case of unfettered capitalism driving the Internet into an ideological cesspool. Everything on the internet tends to get a lot shittier once people start making money off of it.
Yes and no. I think I was overly optimistic that people would make use of the possibilities of social media. I have thoughts on why I was mistaken, but ultimately I failed to recognize that a lot of people like their views affirmed and will seek out circles which do so.
At the same time, you’re 100% right: Companies saw an opportunity to drive engagement and reap huge profits with the teeeeensy little side effects of further siloizing viewpoints, distorting reality, and elevating the most extreme positions. It turbocharged everything awful and repeatedly turned sites into cancerous shitholes.
I think all the inter-instance drama on Lemmy shows pretty well that people don’t need money to enter filter bubbles. I don’t think you can even see this comment lol
For some reason, you made me think of 4chan and how it’s always been a cesspool, no capitalism needed. Little did we know how most corporate social media would devolve into “4chan, but with ad-friendly moderation”
You weren’t wrong on that. You just didn’t realize that most people really suck, and sucky people being able to connect easily results in gestures widely.
I remember when scrolling through Facebook, all I saw was updates on my friends and family and pages I chose to follow. Now my feed is full of random posts from pages I didn’t ask to see posts from but the algorithm decided I should.
I grew up with this type of Toilet.
Seated toilets were harder to shit in and I didn’t like them at first, but bidet is a formidable upgrade to hand so I like seated toilets more now.
Oh also I used to be a Matt Walsh fan in highschool and now I hate sexists and overall fascism supporters including my old self with disgust.
This is the right approach.
Our ancestors didn’t have chairs-like places to take a shit, they just used any flat ground and did it on the ground, it doesn’t really make sense to be in a sit position, it’s counter-evolutive.
Get a little foot stool 10 or 15 cm tall to put your feet on while you shit. Recreates the squat position and unkinks your colon.
Was skeptical when my wife bought one of these. She was right. It’s actually quite useful and comfortable.
Ok do you squat to poop? You’re not just pooping standing up right?
Yeah that’s a squat pot.
Question for you: I used one of these in Istanbul airport. In a residential building that doesn’t have a meter or more between the floors, is the bathroom only on the ground floor? If I installed one of these on the upper floor in my house, the bowl would stick out of the ceiling of the room below.
Often there is a raised / false floor on the toilet area. So your bathroom isn’t fully flat.
To my understanding, apartment or office buildings actually have quite a bit of space between floors. Not a meter, but more than enough.
The drain pipe of the shitter can be embedded in the floor in some cases, even with seated toilets.
I don’t understand how older or clumsy people use these without falling in their own shit on occasion. I feel like even for a relatively athletic person, the probability of an incident surely approaches one given enough time.
whaat? We have the hand held bum gun like those available in most squat toilets. I’ve never used a bidet but… I just doing get how that could be superior.
Conservatism. Used to be a conservative around being 18-20. Then I left it after I saw what giving 2/3rd of the seats to Orbán did in my country. Now I’m not only an anti-fascist, but I also actively oppose conservatism.
When we thought fascism would never come back, we had to learn fascism was just conservatism at its logical extremes.
Sounds like you’ve seen the worst conservatives have to offer.
It’s sad because there are perfectly sane and decent conservatives all around who aren’t out to break the whole system or aggravate you. They just want lower taxes/regulation.
To me, lowering taxes and lessening regulations sounds like “We don’t want to break the whole system or aggravate you. We just want to make the system worse and make life harder for people who don’t have money”.
The way I see it is that we could have lower taxes for working class people by taxing the rich more and reducing corporate welfare. We wouldn’t even have to compromise on our systems. If you’re in favour of those, that’s awesome – I haven’t met very many conservatives who think that way.
But what’s wrong with regulations? Regulations are what stop corporations from cutting corners on health and safety in the name of profits. And we can see from practices around the world that not only does violating these tend NOT to sway public opinion enough that businesses will stop doing harmful things, but they will knowingly do these things and cause harm to people who couldn’t have known any better beforehand.
I don’t think wanting less regulations is very sane, tbf. Not in this day and age. Not with every other industrialist swapping cereal with sawdust or another flavor of killing people through cost cutting. Regulations are a line of defense for the people, by the people, against the relentless attacks of some industries
Nah that’s not credible any more.
All those people lined right up behind Trump as soon as they got the chance.
That Trumpers can be reasoned with and redeemed.
I held this belief until Jan 6th, but I’ve only felt more validated that Trump supporters are fundamentally irredeemable monsters who should be treated like hostile terrorists rather than fellow citizens.
I lost that when a family member looked me in the face and told me that flu shots are called “flu shots” because they aren’t actually vaccines. We are in a psychic war, and we are losing
i still think that the people commonly referred to as being “on the right” are reasonable people overall; Just that they use a very different axiomatic system to make reasonings on. If you start with very different goals, of course you can get to very different conclusions. That’s not a logic error though, it’s just a different set of goals.
I used to assume police were generally trustworthy and I could believe their version of any given event. Now I believe nothing they say without supporting video evidence.
Does hit hard. Where I’m from, a couple years ago maybe ten years ago or so, a kid was killed by cops. I used to say “Surely he did something to be killed”. How dumb I was…
I was the same. “They must have had a reason…”
