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It’s too bad they limited this offer to Arab and European states or we could’ve done something pretty funny.
I think they’d still honor it. Let’s give it a shot.
I must be dense because, I don’t know what the funny impliction is. Please explain it to me 🥲
The USA expels our own ambassadors and the ones from Israel in exchange for Iran’s permission to pass through the Strait of Hormuz.
Thank you for explaining that to me. Idk how I didn’t pick up on it sooner lol
Because they said “we” as if everyone should understand that they were from the US.
You’re saying I get to pass my ships through the strait AND I get to expel Israeli and American psychos from my country?!
Canada isn’t part of the offer, but I’d be happy if we expelled Pete Hoekstra for nothing other than the joy of kicking that evil fat fuck out of the country.
That guy is a colossal piece of shit.
What is this picture from? (I mean what show / movie, do you know?)
It’s a meme made in reference to Baldur’s Gate 3 character Shadowheart.
There are times (idk if it’s been patched out or not but was a thing at release) where Shadowheart would “disapprove” of certain dialogue choices made during what are supposed to be private scenes between you and another character, most notably one scene where you and said other character wander off into the woods for some sexy times.
Thus, the meme of Shadowheart spying on you from the bushes while judging your actions.
The painting is a meme, bu the character is Shadoweheart, from Baldurs Gate 3.
No fair, I wanna participate too! Can we expel our own diplomats to Iran?
Not until you cleaned up your political class, young man/lady/lizard!
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How will Iran protect those ships from Israel and US?
Normally I’d say “isn’t that a silly question?”
But considering the guys running this war are a drunk TV show host and an octogenarian TV show host with dementia, I could totally see them just bombing random ships for fun.
After all, it makes them feel like a big boy and it’s the peasants’ kids that get to endure the consequences.
They are.
Some people think it’s super fun to beat up small-fingered vulgarians, too
My favorite bit from Spy magazine (which first called Trump a “short-fingered vulgarian” back in the '80s) was when they published an errata and apologized for calling Trump a “short-fingered Bulgarian” – the apology was to Bulgaria.
Western imperialism and fundamental ideology has never been so honest.
Bombing ships for fun
Like we have off the coast of Venezuela?
Israel is also involved. I would be surprised if they didn’t bomb anyone trying to take advantage of this offer. Especially if there were children on board.
“You gotta go after the families”.
That was the Trump quote that made me horrified at anyone who still supported him. Child murderer.
Notably, he has a (adult) nephew that has stood on the side of justice and I bear no ill will to her.
He has said and done so many things that would get anyone kicked out of politics 25 years ago. Howard Dean’s campaign was scrubbed for an enthusiastic yell. Trump supporters are the main reason why I think democracy is doomed to fail, unless we can find a fair and unbiased way to remove the most vile, stupid and gullible people from the voting pool.
The narrative war has shifted, because “mass media” can now be targeted to a specific audience/person.
In days of old, the narrative needed consistency. It needed dignity. It needed to survive the scrutiny of swing voters as well as the hardcore base. But now, the narrative shifts from person to person. A conservative Republican voter might see articles about how Trump is cutting taxes for businesses, but they won’t hear much about the very real concerns - corruption, pedophilia, mental health issues.
And since AI can generate article after article, there’s never a lack of propaganda for people like this. They happily scroll their newsfeed, believing every lie.
I couldn’t, at least not until several years more of their regime. Israel, on the other hand, got away with flagrantly drone bombing a Gaza bound humanitarian fleet even while it was docked in a foreign country. They would totally false flag attack anyone who actually agreed to expel their ambassadors for passage.
The is is not going to blow up a Chinese boat for example…
Or maybe it will.
Yea, the stupidity of this US regime just might surprise you. Everyone expects stupid and idiotic things from them … but these criminal pedophiles always seem to take it a step further.
The Stupid is amped up to 11
Awww, I wanna kick out our Israeli and USan ambassadors!
Yes, we all want to kick the Israeli and US ambassadors.
I hear they have a special boot for that in Australia.
Just make sure to pay your respects to the boot! (Amazing how I immediatly knew what Simpson episode this refers to.)
By all means do so!
Didn’t we (the US) technically kick out our ambassadors? By sending them off to other countries?
Ok where is the article I swear the BBC hide this shit to spin narratives
This statement was made live on BBC but the report seems to be true, here are some links.
Doesn’t matter, if their insurance doesn’t cover it no ship is going to risk it.
Cover the boat in iranian and palestinian flags, plaster it
No US-approved ship will ever have the balls to do that and piss of their overlord Bibi so they know to just trust, bet it would go damn smoothly and even insurance wouldn’t bitch about it
They’re yoloing through the strait right now.
It’s a lot of money and the number only goes up with time.
The situation is already well out of hand.
Does Iran actually have the capability to close the Strait though? I thought every naval asset they have has been flattened.
It’s already closed. The threat and the resulting insurance pull is all that’s needed. https://shanakaanslemperera.substack.com/p/actuarial-warfare-how-seven-insurance
Greek sailors are nutters
The Greeks and the Persians go way back.
Iran can close the straight with like 2 dudes with RPGs.
I’m picturing two Iranian guys, sitting in beach chairs next to the straight, sipping coctails, next to a crate marked “RPG”.
JustCause 3 loading screen vibes
Exactly the mental picture I had too.
Plot twist, the crate is full of Monster Manuals and Dungeon Keepers Guides, and the guys were just hoping to have a fun afternoon.
Playing RPGs on their Steam Decks
I had the same thought only with a truck full of drones behind them.
They’d be houthis from yemen (inshallah), not Iranians, but close enough
Trade ships will redirect at even the threat of being met with any confrontation. It is not worth the risk. Iran doesn’t need a Navy to do this either. They need a couple dudes with AKs in a speedboat.
For more info. Just look at Yemen’s blockade as an example.
Ships aren’t gonna risk massive payloads. Insurance won’t cover the loss either.
Don’t even need to get near the ocean, they can just sit inland and launch drones and rockets at passing ships like the Houthis did.
Yep. Which is why I’m really confused by the reports of them “mining” it today. I’m really wondering if it’s just a fake “win” the US is trying to manufacture.
Maybe they are trying to do it. But it doesn’t make sense at all with their messages of allowing passage to states that boot US and Israeli ambassadors. Even if the mines can be deactivated it still doesn’t make sense strategically for Iran to do that.
Was watching the reporting live with CBS saying that Iran was placing mines. Then Trump gets on and says we stopped them from doing it. Just doesn’t add up at all.
Yeah. Every major news outlet is complicit. Charlie’s Broadcast Station is full Nazi now. I have have cut off all mainstream media for my sanity because it certainly isn’t making more informed.
As for the mine claims, I think it’s that Iran knows how our chickenshit post-industrialized vibe economy works. Just claiming they’ve mined the strait is causing the market to shit it’s pants regardless of it it’s true or not.
Interesting take on the mines I haven’t thought about. Would make sense.
I agree. I do still try to follow how the mainstream media is trying to build its narrative. Though I would definitely be mentally healthy without it.
Considering it has signficantly affected oil prices. Yes.
A large amount of ships are currently stuck in the persian gulf. A significant portion of this is because they do not want to take the risk. The threat is enough to be effective but Iran is also enforcing it.
Oil tankers tend to be a pretty risk-averse group. They’re not going to risk getting hit and having their multi-million dollar cargo go up in flames, even if the risk of getting hit while transiting the strait is relatively low.
The Straits are 20 miles at the narrowest. they can hit ships with artillery. Plus they also have drones, which they’ve been using to hit over ten oil tankers since the illegal war began
I’ve been wondering the same thing.
It’s a baller thing to say. But if they’ve lost air superiority (or even if it’s compromised) then it doesn’t mean much.
I read somewhere that Iran can close the strait without a full-scale naval engagement using selective drone strikes and harassing vessels, Iran triggers a spike in maritime insurance premiums which will choke shipping companies. Also because of the narrow width of the strait, also shallow, Iran can use mines, they have both simple contact mines to sophisticated “smart” mines, apparently they possesses one of the largest naval mine inventories in the world.
Those are fair points. They don’t need to block all targeted traffic. They just have to be enough of a threat/pain in the ass for transportation and insurance rates to go up to an uncomfortable level. It’s all about threat and perception.
Sure, the US air force and navy could bomb the shit out of their artillery placements. But given how (relatively) cheap and effective drones are, that might not be as effective as it seems at first.
How shallow? If a ship gets sunk would that be another obstacle?
They’re a petrostate with a hopelessly outdated air force, the US or any other developed country can destroy their infrastructure at their leisure and bring their economy to it’s knees. Which they would happily do if Iran sinks a vessel flagged in their waters.
They also need a working vessel to lay those mines.
You realize that threats like this don’t work AFTER you already did it, right?
There will be something they haven’t hit yet.
Sure, and they are going to bomb it regardless, you see the problem with killing the people you were negotiating with? The next guy isn’t going to come to the table.
Think Americans are going to give up all their comforts and wealth just to bump off Iran?
Also just to add to your point. Even if Trump and Co try to force away those conforts how long till you start getting little IRA style sessesionist groups? The US powergrid alone is a rather vast vulnerability.
Like their pre-schools. That’ll show em how mighty our brave troops and weapons are.
Israel is involved here so that’s not a joke.
lol a country and people that has existed in that region for thousands of years hosting multiple land empires, survived multiple genocidal Mongol hordes…is a petrostate that will crumble if you just bomb some stuff.
Fucking Americunt MAGA brainrot.
The Iranian nation as we know it only came into existence with the fall of the Shah.
The land will always be there, the regime, not so much.
And what do you suppose happens to all those civilians whose economy is now in shambles? Assuming they aren’t killed in the missile strikes, that is.
Lmao, what fucking reality do you live in. The war is already going on, they’ve been attacking iran for like 2 weeks now. What is this “the USA can DESTROY them if they DARE target our ships” shit? Strait’s closed. try and open it, bitch
It’s not really baller if everyone just ignores them, and joins a US led convoy through the Strait.
Neat, the US taxpayers are going to spend billions of dollars to escort oil for the Arabs. All in order to reduce the value of America’s own oil exports. How likely do you think that is?
Losing Air superiority doesn’t mean their artillery stops working.
They don’t need naval assets all they need to do is give the green light to Russian proxies who will lay mines and knock it out of action for years.
All you have to do is scare the money people.
Literally the most based shit I have read all year
Based.
Gansta for Iran, but typical Trump style
More like a “gangster rapper” move, because that’s just saying dumb shit.
