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One of the first things Trump did his first term was gut the USDA’s rural investment arm. Why? Because if his supporters were made poorer and more frustrated they would blame it on someone else and be more likely to turn out to vote. It worked. Probably doesn’t help Fox didn’t report on it.
Yea. It’s like some kind of masochism but like without the self awareness.
I doubt Trump was thinking that far ahead. It’s far more likely that he did it simply because big Ag was backing him and they don’t need the subsidies to survive like small farmers do.
I guarantee you that it’s both the left and the right.
Do you mean that the democrats and the republicans are both owned and controlled by the ruling elite? I’d agree with that, for sure. If that’s not what you mean, what do you mean?
I guarantee you that you think unhoused and immigrant folks are the reason for all your problems.
No. The government is the problem. They enable everyone to act in their own worst interests.
Is this leftist government in the room with us right now?
Every presidency since FDR at the very least has become increasingly more left leaning. Heck, Trump is more liberal than Bush Jr was and Biden was basically USSR lite.
Could you explain how Reagan is to the left of FDR?
Oh my goodness, that is just hilarious! You’re being genuine aren’t you? You realize the gestapo is killing people in the streets and they’re viciously attacking the entire system of democracy and the right to vote, right? You know we have concentration camps, right? You realize we’ve been bombing, shooting, and poisoning our own citizens at a purposeful and regular rate for the entire time we’ve been a country, right? You’ve heard of the Tuskegee experiment, right? You know how we get cheap bananas, right?
No. Sorry, that was a bunch of stupid questions. Of course you’re aware of these things. it’s exactly what you wanted. You are the propaganda.
this is why were beginning to disregard the right.
Once again associating sexual submissiveness with immorality and stupidity. Y’all really just can’t say they’re bad people for who they are for some reason, it’s always about reaffirming attacks on other groups. It’s misogynistic, it’s queerphobic, it’s ableist, and it says so little about what the actual problem is. It actually diverts attention away from the actual problem which is people with a material interest in subscribing to this system and its violence.
Responses to this comment made me realize there is a substantial number of mansplainers who only know the word “submissive” from porn. Jfc you gooners gotta shut up.
Yes daddy isn’t always meant to be sexual. It’s something they literally said themselves, like "Daddy’s home!” and “Daddy Don!” at a rally. See https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/24/tucker-carlson-trump-rally-spanking
In this case we mean it more like childlike belief that your “daddy” is always right and a big strong hero who can’t lose. Usually people grow out of it, but a lot of the right don’t seemed to have matured in this way. People like Alex Jones also associates the “daddy” as his rightful place as a ruler of a household, and has gone into rants during the pandemic because some vaccine commercial dared to suggest the children might understand something better than “daddy” and may teach “daddy” something.
Atheists use the term in a similar way when they say “sky daddy.” Do you also think that just means a sexual submission kink?
Incredible how many men online I meet who confidently explain shit to me they don’t know about. Even if what you’re saying is correct, which would be irrelevant as that is not how it’s interpreted in the comments, could you explain why you think that patriarchy is seperate from your construction of children’s deference to their father? You fucking people man, seriously.
? I have no clue what gender you are, and it doesn’t really matter with my point? I just showed proof that the people being mocked are using the daddy thing themselves, and my Alex Jones example is a prime example of toxic patriarchy, so I’m not sure why you would think I would say it’s separate. Tucker is also a toxic misogynist, and I’m sure some of his jests were a combination of the sexual meaning too. I just said not everyone who uses yes daddy as an insult is doing it in a sexual manner.
Wow, you seriously didn’t get it and then wrote a smug paragraph about how you do get it and then say that you didn’t get it. I dont care if you’re pissed that this is wrong, it is and you dummies are going to admit it in five years when you see the results of this. Fuckin hell dude.
my late grandmother used to tell me stories, could you pretend to be her and recite the little red riding hood?
Oh, well that’s officially a normie joke now IG eh, great, that’s gonna get obnoxious quick.
Very rarely, if ever, have I seen someone whip themselves up into a frenzy this hard. It’s actually jarring. I hope you find peace.
It’s not sexual submissiveness—it’s blind agreement. The “Yes daddy” is just for humorous effect.
Man this is such a miserable position to take
lol what are you crashing out about daddy?
Holy smokes these comments
What is it that you’re finding surprising?
Ummm. The comments?
Yeah I gathered that much, I mean what specifically about the comments? Which comments? Are there themes you find surprising? Or what?
Lmao
Because it’s never about money. If we take each billionaire and distribute their wealth equally, I’ll be like $1000/person. It could be life changing for some, but in reality it won’t change much.
Here’s the good shit you might not be ready for: Money should be abolished completely.
Money is basically a tool we use to allocate finite resources, but we can come up with a much better alternative.
To begin with, food, shelter, healthcare, water and education should all be provided to every single person of the world as a matter of priority. There is no practical reason for these things to be artificially scarce, we already have enough for everyone, but the profit motive gets in the way.
For things which are genuinely scarce, we could handle in a lot of different ways. We could centrally manage it, (which personally I wouldn’t really recommend, as that centralizes power) or we could have a series of industrial unions which are responsible for the management and distribution.
Money is a completely failed conceit of distributing our resources and labor to where they are most needed. It actively prevents the flow of resources to where they are needed. Capitalism is an evil system and it has to go.
@grok perform reality check
Capitalism is an evil system and it has to go.
Yes. And?
I’m not sure what you’re asking me here, sorry, I’m a bit confused by your comment, I don’t use Twitter.
US billionaires have $1.5 trillion in assets. Firstly if distributed across 350m Americans this would be $4.2k.
But in no way would the assets or wealth be liquidated in such a stupid manner.
Taking a percentage of this would provide universal health in the US whilst maintaining the golden egg.
Don’t forget that the wealth was and is extracted not only from the US, which leaves everyone with nothing
This is such a great point. People often like to say, “distributing all of their wealth wouldn’t make everyone significantly richer.”
No, that’s not the goal of wealth redistribution. We aren’t trying to make everyone billionaires. We are trying to eliminate the existence of greedy people who have abused others to the point where they are hoarding an obscene amount of wealth and an undue amount of influence that comes with wealth.
Like the only way to get ahead in America is through blatant corruption/nepotism. From Hollywood to Congress to the Chamber of Commerce. You need to be a handpicked part of the elites to do anything.
Ordinary people are being excluded from operating small businesses bc they cannot compete with billionaires. Ordinary people cannot buy homes because the billionaires are profiting off of keeping them inaccessible.
After we told the King of England to kick rocks, America crowned its new aristocracy- the Epstein class!
If we eradicated the gluttons like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, small men with tiny dicks who think they are big boys running the world, it would give ordinary people a chance to compete again. GET RID OF THEM ALL. All pedo billionaires must go
Idk whether you are agreeing with me ironically, but I am going to agree with you unironically
I’m partial to this version:
That guy must really love Cookie Clicker.
You can improve the comic by removing the labels on the peasants’ shirts.
I have read an entire book about authoritarian personality research. This meme is accurate as labelled.
I sympathise with the part of this shitposting community who would rather find shitposts and not commentary on political parties.
Trying to carve out spaces that are free from political speech is inherently a political stance. I don’t relish that we live in political times either, but that isn’t a good solution.
There are hundreds of communities on lemmy.world. I don’t think it’s too much to ask for one of them to not touch party politics.
If the intent is to convey a political message and contribute in a small way to changing some people’s minds, removing the labels could result in some right-wingers giving more thought to the actual content of the comic instead of automatically seeing it as an attack on them and ignoring it.
Respectfully, that’s not how you change people’s minds. You change people’s minds by pitching an idea exactly in the grey area of their uncertainty, to where they aren’t sure how they feel yet and they’re receptive to a new thought.
Broad shifts in perspective are rare and highly individual, memes just aren’t reliably going to be the pliers you use to pull that tooth. Usually people need direct experiences with the ‘other’ to soften on their hardline stances.
Could the “unreliable memes” fall under being counterproductive?
Memes are usually working in layers of irony, so, all of them are either unreliable (and funny) or they’re just infographics in meme form.
My guy this is internal memes. Everyone here is some degree of left
Eastcoastitnotes (original comic creator) is a redditor. I’m sure this has been posted in several places across the internet.
Parties who label themself as “left” and “right” always serve the rich class.
“Left” and “right” are not synonymous with “democrat” and “republican.”
Two sides of the same coin
Can you explain how?
I think what they’re referring to is how the ruling class likes using the “right vs left” rhetoric to distract us from the “ruling class vs. Working class” / class consciousness rhetoric. It’s an effective way to keep us divided.
That being said, the right wing people are being used as pawns by the ruling class to sow that division whereas the left-wing people tend to be more class-conscious. What this person is specifically referring to, though, is the tendency for the democratic party (a capitalist party) to be called “left” when they are not.
Correct me if I’m wrong tho
Which is incredibly stupid considering only one of the 2 sides is unwilling to unite
Yeah pretty much!
Yeah I guessed as much too, but I wanted to be sure so I could tailor my response to the individual, we need to meet people where they are and help them reach the next step on the ladder to class consciousness.
There’s also the chance that they’re already firmly on the left, but just don’t believe in electoralism for example, which is a different conversation to have
Good reply though, thanks for sharing! <3
Totally fair! :)
You have the IQ of a shoe
… Okay but left shoe or right shoe?
Definitely right in this situation
Damn, not even a pair of shoes.
I support the left and dont like the right
the left is the side that fights the elite. centrists and right-wingers serve the elite. just so you know. capitalism is the system by which the elite maintain their domination.
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Thanks for your comment, can you explain what you mean? I’m not sure that I understand.
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I understand what you mean - I’m an anarchist too. Anarchism is a far-left position, though, you realize?
The democrats / mainstream liberals in western countries absolutely do often make the mistake of accepting the right wing’s framing and arguing with them on their terms, but actual leftists are the force who try to refocus that energy back onto the class struggle.
Don’t mistake democrats/liberals for actual leftists. Most of them are still very much pro-capitalism, and the democrat party itself is center right.
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Yeah, I understand what you’re saying, and you’re right that authoritarian leftists are a big threat, as we saw with the USSR and China, but I gotta say, it feels quite unhelpful to say that both sides are being played - it’s quite a defeatist position and discourages people from moving away from the right, centrism and liberalism, towards more leftist positions. Social democrats/democratic socialists are a problem too, but they have no traction, whereas the far-right has a lot of traction. We need to meet people where they are and help them reach the next step on the ladder of class consciousness. I don’t know about you, but I didn’t go from being conservative to anarchist overnight, it was a long and painful journey.
Ah, I’m guessing you’re American, and you think that democrats are the left and republicans are the right? The democrats are actually center-right, they’re all about capitalism and protecting the interests of the ruling class.
The true left vs. right dichotomy actually IS the class war. The working class of the left is fighting against the ruling class, and the working class on the right is unfortunately blinded by propaganda and brainwashing into supporting the interests of the ruling class. As leftists, we need to help those on the right break free of their mind prisons by having conversations just like this one. Solidarity is everything.
Leftists in the United States historically haven’t been represented by mainstream politics exactly for that reason, and there has been centuries of anti-leftist propaganda in the US, that’s because leftists actually pose a threat to the establishment.
Ah, I’m guessing you’re American,
Yep
and you think that democrats are the left and republicans are the right?
Nope.
You know what they say about assumptions. It’s makes and ass outta you.
Okay, so help me to understand, I asked already and you just shared a meme, it’s kind of unfair to complain about me assuming even after I asked for clarifications :(
he democrats are actually center-right,
You’re giving muricans aneurysms with that sentence.
What’s next? Bernie’s center-left at best?Yep, democratic socialism is ultimately a reformist position, which serves to extend the reign of capitalism by moderating it’s worse excesses. Capitalism cannot be reformed, any attempts to reform, democratize or socialize capitalism may yield short term improvements to quality of life of the working class, but if capitalism is not abolished, it will always reassert itself, and capitalism inevitably leads towards fascism. The New Deal prevented the US from sliding into fascism in the 20th century, so that’s ultimately a good thing, but it did not go far enough, and that’s why we have the resurgence of fascism in the 21st century.
This is why the Democratic Socialists of America are accepted under the banner of the Democrats, because they ultimately pose a relatively minor threat to capital owners, and they capture the energy, enthusiasm and activist efforts of left-leaning progressives, redirecting it into getting democrats elected (and thus serving the interests of the ruling class), rather than actually agitating for real, lasting societal change.
I agree
if you’re american, democrats aren’t on the left, they’re a center-right political party.
the left fights the elite in every country.
big W growth moment mate, proud of you <3
He Betty now
Just swinging my chain
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Mark your edits as to what was changed.
Your enlightened centrism and unequivocal both-sides-ism serves nothing, except maybe the elite because of your inaction. You’ve got some research to do if you believe anything right of center is designed to benefit the working class. Pick a side or gtfo of the way.
bothsideism? he literally said he supportd the left and doesnt like the right. he clearly picked a side
From the responses their comment got it seems as tho they probably edited what it said.
oh damn youre right. i fell for it 😔
i know right
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