Not really sure it’s for me but I am just happy that it really annoys Nintendo
Out ofthe loop here. Why does Nintendo care?
Nintendo spent a load of money and resources in a protracted legal battle trying to get the project canned by suing them for everything they could think of. It ended in them forcing Palworld to remove the ball throwing mechanic, because apparently Pokemon has that copyrighted or something.
Pokemon has that copyrighted or something.
Patented, which is even dumber
And the gliding with monsters
Damn, didn’t know that.
Using a monster as a glider too
They also tried to patent riding monsters as well, which is insane seeing that horseriding had been a thing for millenia
It kinda looks like the pikachu game
Pikachu Simulator World Cup 64™ ?
Detective Pikachu?
They plagiarized a bunch of Pokemon and used the publicity generated to bring attention to their game (which admittedly has nothing to do with Pokémon aside from the aforementioned similar-looking monsters).
If memory serves, the plagiarism allegations were doctored. Nintendo tried to find whatever they could sue them for, and it wasn’t plagiarizing monster designs; it was for things like “riding a captured creature” and “catching creatures by throwing a ball at them”. Some aspect of Japanese law allowed for them to make new patents after Palworld came out and then sue them for it retroactively.
I’m not talking about what went into court. Most pals are “legally distinct” monsters, but that’s what brought the game to public awareness, what started the comparisons with Pokémon, and why Nintendo hated their guts. Monster collectors have existed outside of Pokémon for decades and still do, Nintendo only sued Palworld because they copy-pasted their monsters with a different color palette.
What brought the game to court compared to the other monster collectors is that this one made a shit-ton of money, and the other ones didn’t, so Nintendo and The Pokemon Company were, for the first time, threatened.
They wouldn’t feel threatened by Palworld if it wasn’t for the legally distinct™ designs because, at its core, Palworld is a completely different game that only vaguely resembles Pokémon on a very superficial level (the monster themselves).
Most pals are “legally distinct” monsters
Fuck off which this. Pokemon pulled the same shit when they copied Dragon Quest with the first games
Oh, wow. Dragon Quest’s are way cuter.
If it’s legally not considered copy-pasting their monsters, why do you feel like you can assert that it is plagiarism? I suppose that’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it, but I also think people have a right to call you out on it for saying it as if it’s a fact when it is not actually a recognized fact. Plenty of people would dispute that, including myself, and certainly Pocketpair would, and evidence suggests the courts probably would’ve agreed with them hence it wasn’t even worth pursuing legally.
You can dispute that Palworld didn’t copy-paste Pokémon body parts and palette swap their designs to create their legally distinct clones, but I’d call that bullshit. People only side with PocketPair because they plagiarized Nintendo, which people (rightfully) hates. If it was done to anyone else, nobody would defend them. I can hate Nintendo and still posit that what PocketPair did was shitty and an insult to all the devs who actually take pride in their work and put effort in creating something original.
This entire medium is built on iteration. Basically every fantasy thing you ever played was basically a palette swap of Tolkien or someone who copied Tolkien before them. Original D&D had “hobbits” until they were changed into halflings. Palworld is also parody, which thrives on the similarity as it calls pals bastards for breaking out of their capture, or arms them with modern weaponry. Not only that, but “survival game with a riff on Pokemon” is creating something original.
Fuck off with this. If Palworld ripped off Pokemon, then Pokemon ripped off Dragon Quest
Quit licking corpo boots
Yeah, as someone who has been playing Pokemon since Pokemon Blue, I don’t see much of a similarity in the monsters from Palworld, other than them having the same inspirations such as a sheep, a cat, an owl and so on. They are “legally distinct” in the same way that the shotgun in Halo is legally distinct from the shotgun in Doom
If you dont like that you should see the titan bars I got from Aldi.
Actually they’re suing because of these alleged infringement of these weirdly general patents:
- throwing an item at a character in a field triggering a combat state.
- capturing creatures in the wild, rather than in a battle setting.
- riding creatures in an open world and transitioning between those creatures.
Don’t forget that these patents (or modifications of existing patents) were made after Palworld released.
Nintendo and their lawyers are scumbags
Nintendo alleges that they plagiarized their assets.
The thing is, there was a solid argument to be made that some of the meshes for certain Pals were too similar to that of some Pokémon models to be a coincidence, but Nintendo didn’t bring any of that up in the lawsuit. They opted to go for the much more flimsy “riding a character” and “summoning a character by throwing a ball/sphere”.
And, somehow, fucking won. They forced Palworld to remove the ball throwing mechanic.
It’s fucking stupid.
And, somehow, fucking won.
No, they haven’t won a single patent case yet. And there’s still ball throwing in the game, but only for captures. The summoning via ball throwing was removed so that Nintendo couldn’t file an injuction against Pocketpair to stop their sales during the case.
If Pocketpair wins the court cases, they can undo the removals.
Oh gotcha. I thought I read the won the patent in Japan or something so that’s why it was removed.
Good to hear they are still fighting it.
If anyone plagiarized pokemon it would have been tem tem, but that was not a threat to Nintendo so they went after pal world because game freak got lazy with their game dev.
I thought GameFreak owned Pokemon.
They own a third of it, along with Nintendo and Creatures
I hope so. I played the game last year and everything felt a bit lackluster and janky. It’s a pretty fun game, but I hope 1.0 adds that polish it needs.
If they can give the environments a stronger, more “toon” art direction, and fix the player character’s chopped looks, no one will be able to pull me off this game!!!
I was planning on starting a new world once 1.0 drops and was worried how big this update will be. This gives me some confidence. I really like what they have done so far and can‘t wait to see how they‘ll wrap it up.
Same, I played a ton at launch but haven’t kept up with any updates aside from the initial raids. All memes aside it’s genuinely a solid game, so I’m looking forward to seeing what they’ve done with it.
Hey, I doubt it! Still totally on board to spite nintendo tho
Oh, I thought these headlines were from the past and this was roasting Pocketpair for saying that
what is that a dinosaur
Relaxasaurus. He’s just a chill guy.
well he’s pissing me off right now
Is it steam deck compatible? Like controls wise?
With the Steam Input button remapping, isn’t everything?
The true answer.
My kid plays it on the deck, he’s 7. So, I guess it’s fine.
Then I very well might to be able to tank it. Glad your kid did the research.
I don’t know
Hey! Turns out I already have it through family share! I’ll check back in however long it takes to download.
I’d like to be more enlightened.
About palword or the family share?
Both.
Palworld plays well on the steam deck. But I’m irl friends with a fairly popular twitch streamer who put me in his group. I have a ton of steam games from being an early adopter of humble bundle, I was pretty proud of my 666 game count. But I got a hundred some odd newer games from the share. And we can play online at the same time which is pretty dope.
That’s impressive.
Just play Abiotic Factor.
There’s another game that mashed Pokémon and Palworld called Pickmon i think, still in early access but they are copying both games shamelessly.
Uggh, I just took a look at this game. It’s absolute slop. Nintendo had no legs for for their attempted suit, but PocketPair certainly does now. Well, maybe not, but I wish…
Its hilarious how little they respect copyright, there’s even Link BotW and Roadhog Overwatch in there too
Oh yeah i forgot they threw those in as well, but at least you don’t capture Pickmons with balls you capture them with cards, it’s an absolute troll party.
I was thinking about buying this game on a sale.
Can anybody tell me how the game compares to its first release? The game peaked at 2 million consecutive players, that’s a lot!
Any updates on the legal side of things? Didn’t Nintendo officially open up a lawsuit not too long ago?
Nintendo mostly lost. They did have to make some minor game updates, glider pals no longer appear when gliding, and you can’t throw a captured pal’s sphere on summon.
Palworld weren’t forced to make those changes. They did it to avoid injunctions from stopping sales during the precedings.
Also, the majority of the cases are still ongoing. Both in the US and in Japan
Afaik Nintendo lost!
