(iii) Proposed provisions specifying that the USPS shall not transmit mail-in or absentee ballots from any individual unless those individuals have been enrolled on a State-specific list described in subsection (b)(iv) of this section with the USPS pursuant to this subsection.

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    Here it is Americans. Its time to put that love of liberty and freedom to the test. Or are you all going to sleep meme your way through a fascist power grab.

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    One of the great failings of this government is not providing a punishment for repeatedly issuing unconstitutional orders. He has exactly zero incentive to stop.

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      Our Congress has allowed a lawless president to do whatever he wanted. It is a MAGA coup dresses as Republicans.

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      what I don’t understand is why don’t they just come out and say “ok, no more elections. this is a dictatorship now” like they keep tip toeing around it, they keep breaking the law, insider trading, illegal operations, all of it and they’ve gotten away with it every time. So why do they keep teasing something they know they have a strong possibility of getting away with? who are they afraid of?

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        Doesn’t Russia still hold elections where Putin always wins? Or North Korea?

        I think the idea is you keep having elections so you can say you won.

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          As opposed to the wonderful and free America, which holds elections where we get a choice between one of two candidates favored by corporate oligarchs. Candidates who are appointed to the candidacy, if the parties so wish, by “[going] into back rooms like they used to and [smoking] cigars and [picking] the candidate that way”, as acknowledged by our own courts.

          Sure, a third party candidate can run, but without funding they have no actual chance of winning even if their message would otherwise resonate with the public. That’s not a functional republic or a functional democracy, it’s democracy theater put on by our ruling class to appease the working masses.

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            Whataboutism.

            A. We weren’t talking about that.

            B. Yes it sucks too, but the alternative, which we were actually talking about, is objectively worse.

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              1. I know, you were spreading western exceptionalism talking points, which is what I wanted to dispel.

              2. North Korea has killed fewer people than America. I’m obviously not pro-Russia but just quantifiably, they have also killed fewer people than America (especially if we’re talking Russia as a current political entity and not USSR). Both also contribute less per-capita to the climate change destroying our planet. So “worse” by what metric exactly?

              EDIT: Whole lotta downvotes, notable absence of actual responses. Liberal moment. “Worse” by what metric?

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            I could be wrong but I think Trump was a third party candidate, they really didn’t expect him to win, sure he’s in the club now but only because they have to, before he was scratching at the doors. Loving the fact that your replies are basically “both sides bad” shit take when you addressed that in your comment, yeah one sides worse, it’s Trump, let’s move on instead of going over the same talking points over and over. Being better off with Kamala does not make her a good president, but she’s the better of the two choices! Is screeched, oh did you just say 2 choices? because they are literally the same side

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        They’re following the Hungary model, which in turn was a variation on the Russian model.

        What they’re attempting is a “legal coup,” which is the typical modern democracy-to-authoritarianism transition. They want to retain the facade of constitutionality and lawfulness, to avoid creating an armed insurgency situation, and to avoid burning the value of the current economic system by crashing the stock market or causing investment to flee.

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        It’s to pacify the enlightened centrists who will go along with it as long as it’s supposedly ‘what the people want’.

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        They’re boiling the frog, still. Each little step they flood the airwaves with justifications and distractions to trick their idiot followers into supporting. Too big a step and they lose too many at once.

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    So the USPS doesn’t have to do this, they don’t report to the president, and I don’t think this is in any way legal.

    If the postmaster general follows this order I would hope anyone in Congress could haul him in and have him arrested.

    States run elections, period, and this is blatant election tampering.

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    LMAO. If the dems did this, the maga cunts would be like “OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!” but daddy dumpy does it, and they’re probably rejoicing.

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            Yea because fighting your own side is all about fixing it. Go talk to yourself in the mirror when it comes to addressing how not to fix shit.

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              Your comment “Only psychopaths and sycophants pull this shit” has been living in my head for the past half day. Not because I took it personally but more just how deeply ironic it is. Like you seem more upset at a stranger on the Internet calling out everyday non MAGA Americans for not doing enough and you call that person the psychopath and sycophant, yet not your President who is actually the psychopath and sycophant who is going to directly impact your life in negative ways because you and others have essentially allowed it to fester and grow. Looking at your post history, you do not even seem that mad at the situation around you and this seems to be a common thread. Like sure, you are clearly not loving the station as you see yourself at the victim which is fair as you likely do not vote for Trump, but he really is the epitome of evil and is so clearly dragging your country which I also love, into what is looking like hell for anyone not aligned to his evil views. Maybe my comments has you thinking too about how you can do more as you can be the victim and accept till it is so painful you finally act. Hopefully in a non violent way, but the longer you and the good Americans delay their response the more it will be forced into violence and I rather not see my friends and neighbours how to go through this.

              I am sorry I triggered you. My intent is to use shame and shock to wake Americans up who are passive. Time to act. Hope you are taking measures to resist, even in small ways out side of online complaining and the odd ineffective protests. Download the apps that you can scan barcodes and see if you are inadvertently about to support a MAGA business that is undermining you and good people. The tools to address non violently are at your disposal if you choose and the longer they are not used, the more likely violence is coming. Hope this message is processed by you with the intent I am trying to put out, perhaps ineffectively. Feel free to suggest how I can help motivate Americans to join Canada in the boycott.

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              I don’t understand. I am suggesting you all join the Canadians and boycott MAGA hard so they collapse and start seeing bankruptcies and chaos. Money talks and that situation will make them in-fight and fall apart. No not to fight them as they will do it for you if you put the pressure on them. Better than doing nothing and better than going straight to violence.

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            You’re the biggest problem here fighting your own side. If you’ve decided there’s no way back : You’re the one doing fuck all to fix it.

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        … Definitely the trump cult? Like yeah, you could argue that Democrats are also a problem, but the ‘bigger’ problem is pretty fucking obvious

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          Hard disagree. The. In MAGa Americans are passive AF right now. Sure, there is online complaining and the odd ineffective protest, but actual action to slow / break down MAGA? Nope. The Canadians are doing more than Americans and it was self organized not government. Imagine if Americans joined the MAGA boycott as it would cause chaos and bankruptcies which would get their attention. Money talks especially to the MAGA crowd. So while not all Americans are behaving as bad and as evil as MAGA, they are also not preventing the damage it is doing to themselves and the world either. Only Americans can save themselves and it is not looking good.

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      All this does for mail voters is require them to get their ballots earlier than usual. There are many reasons to hate Trump but this is not it.

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        Oh I’ll add it to the list. And its certainly a rule that will be used to throw out legal ballots.

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        Nah, it’s pure vote tampering, well-worth hating the Republican administration for. People will forget, people have busy lives, much more than people will decide to send in the ballot early and they know that. As a bonus it would no longer give people a deadline to convene around – will the ballot be delivered in two days? Three? What about a mail delay? Idk how you could see this as anything but despicable thuggery.

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            I don’t know what I wrote that indicates I care about who it favors, but that’s not the point. Mail-in voting increases voter turnout, so making mail-in voting harder or less accessible is vote suppression. Vote suppression is bad for democracy. That’s it.

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              Even if it affected his supporters more than others, it would still be a bad thing. If change is to happen democratically, it needs to be actually democratic (or as democratic as FPTP gets, anyway).

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                And I’m saying that that’s a pretty meaningless observation to make, unless you’re trying to defend voter suppression.

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        If so, why bother doing it? He didn’t issue a pointless executive order, did he? … Maybe your interpretation is incorrect.

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        Okay, you know you need your ballot mailed to you right? So what happens when they mail it late??

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    I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime’s neck.

    However, as they see the end they’re getting more and more dangerous, because there’s no way they’re going to let themselves face justice at the end. I predict this summer and fall are going to be the darkest times of my lifetime, and potentially a lot of violence from the regime.

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      J6 was just a practice run. This revenge tour he’s shown us the past year only proves he will not go down without a fight… and his base are so embolden now, they will absolutely do whatever the hell they want knowing their king will back them up.

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      I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime’s neck

      I mean, I remember this gleeful enthusiasm back in 2006 and 2018. Very likely there’s a bloodbath in the next election. But… what comes next?

      Will Dems actually be in charge of the Senate? Or do we get the “John Fetterman Says No” show for the next two years?

      Does the House try and rein in the President or just double down on war funding while doing photo ops of Hakeem Jeffries shrugging impotently?

      Go back to Pelosi’s House under Bush. And Pelosi/Schumer under Trump 1. These were not inspiring moments of liberal leadership. More often than not, Dems don’t stop the fascism. They just cash in and become complicit.

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        Yeah I’m well aware of the copium. One realistic way that I see change happening is the regime does something so heinous and appalling in the next 6-12 months that everyone will get angry enough and, while it won’t lead to a direct overthrow, a lot of the farther left candidates will gain more and more power.

        This act would have to be like, murdering a crowd of protestors so they can’t vote or something. I should clarify a crowd of white, straight, middle class protestors***

        I have no hope for the actual Democratic party of course. They’re controlled opposition at best. It just so happens the progressives caucus with the Ds for now. We really need to abolish FPTP in all states, and implement RCV or approval/score voting, to start moving away from the duopoly, but of course the people in power would never willingly give up power.

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    But seriously, how is that supposed to work? Is the USPS supposed to open all the envelopes and determine if the voters are registered?

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      They just seize everything by default. They’ll get back to you later about which ones are illegal.

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        And they love trump.

        Think about how much (fuck) u/spez protected r/the_donald.

        Think about how much they showed their oldest, most tech-savvy users, power users, and moderators, the door…right at the run-up to the election, with the changes in the API rate structure. These users were overwhelmingly anti-Trump.

        I got a 3-day ban right after the Venezuala attack for suggesting that another country “return the favor” on our leader.

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        They’re not hippies. Real hippies tied themselves together across roads to protest the Vietnam war. They chained themselves to industrial equipment to protect nature.

        These are not real hippies. They disappoint real hippies.

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      it’s the ye old method of protesting with your gun. and to be frank, i think your going easy on em

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      Unfortunately, this type of interference can be effective while challenges sloooooooooowly move throughthe courts.

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    Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.

    White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.