- cross-posted to:
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- programmer_humor@programming.dev

That can’t be accurate. The reality is way worse. The top 1% wouldn’t even be visible on the chart at that scale. What am I missing?
this must be of only the working class
I’d believe that the top end of the working class has a net worth of 15 million at the start of retirement
That it only goes up to 2021

WTF happened in 1971‽
Reagan
It looks like this curve starts ramping up before 1981.
I am never again buying a post 2010 car. I’ve driven a few modern cars, and they have truly gone to shit. STOP BEEPING.
Why does it say keep my eyes on the road? I can only read that by taking my eyes off the road.
2024 car window button broke before it was a year old… the car was not even commuted in. Less than 10K miles in a year. The button was used maybe a dozen times? At most. This was a “high-quality” vehicle, the best reviewed of kind. Resets with updates, all settings lost. I have to go through menus to use radio, three menus? It beeps and dings constantly. I am enraged every time I drive it.
I hate you so much. I wait for death
Right to repair laws would help things so much. If you didn’t like the firmware that came with the car, you could install alternative firmware. If the dealer sold a car that was known to have some terrible components, there would be a business opportunity for a car modder who would buy factory vehicles from the dealer and replace the most trouble-prone parts, then re-sell the car with a slight mark-up.
It used to be that when it came to high performance cars, there were groups like Alpine, AMG, Abarth, Shelby, Saleen, etc. They were often race teams, or associated with race teams. Sometimes they would buy stock cars and modify them for racing, or at least modify them for high performance. But, most of those have now been brought into the company most associated with them. Mercedes owns AMG, Alpine is part of Renault, etc. I would bet one reason that this is not as common anymore is that cars are heavily computerized, and the computers can use DRM to restrict anybody but the original manufacturer from modifying them.
My mom bought a 2024 Toyota Aygo X, and it will constantly beep at you if you go 2kph over the limit. You can turn it off by going into the menus but it’ll just turn on again on the next start
Particular annoying when it constantly gets it wrong. Like it read the traffic sign of the side street.
And includes ads. And needs an internet connection and only works if you agree if your data can be used “to improve their products and service”. And you need their app to control it, or it won’t work. A free app, with in app purchases. And more ads. And it has a camera and microphone for no reason which can’t be turned off. And 2 weeks after the warrenty, the fridge dies or they stop supporting the app basically bricking the device. While all you want is a damn fridge, washing machine, bike, oven, etc. which only does what it’s supposed to, longer than just 3 years.
Back in the days you were the product if something was for free. But now at least you need to pay to have your data stolen.
Wow, no AI. It would be a pleasure to have such stupid device.
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Friend of mine has a new commutity washing machine which has AI. Everything comes out half clean. So he uses the other one next to it, a 20 year old one which only has washing functions. It’s far superior, everything comes out clean.
Not only that, but you can’t even use price as a proxy for quality anymore. Choosing to splash out on something you want to last just means you’re going to be more disappointed when it inevitably breaks.
This is what got me. I started a really well paying job so me and the wife decided to splurge on some better, name brand appliances. I’ve replaced every single one in less than 5 years. Fuck GE, fuck LG, and definitely fuck Samsung.
Only bosch
My rule is if they’ve ever made a TV or a Cell Phone I’ll NEVER buy their appliance.
But you got all those sweet touchscreens and stuff right?
I wonder if there are good brands still. Bosch? Miele?
Miele is still very good imo. Expensive but good
My vacuum is a miele, it’s a tank but light and powerful, but it’s also 10 years old so I don’t know if the quality is still there today in new products.
That’s the difficult thing about reviewing the durability of things. If you want to talk about whether something will last for years and years, you have to wait years to publish the review. By the time the review is out, they might no longer sell the model that was being reviewed. In some cases, the company might have been sold to a private equity investor who is just milking the brand’s goodwill before the value tanks.
For washer/dryer it’s speed queen. Or it’s usually still easy to find people selling working older quality washers/dryers that are foolishly looking to upgrade to modern garbage.
They’re not the prettiest thing in the world, but buying commercial restaurant equipment would be the way to go.
Currently planning a remodel around that kind of stuff.
Freezers that are meant to be open and shut 40 times a day with a 1 degree temperature differential inside.
Fridges that are meant to safely chill food from hot through the danger zone to cold all day every day.
Ranges and ovens that are designed to be on 12-16 hours a day. For months to years on end.
Stuff like that.
How much is that going to cost you? I know long term it will probably save you money, but I would bet that the cost is triple the stuff you buy in a big box store.
There are probably times when the way restaurants do things isn’t appropriate for home cooking. For example, I read about commercial woks vs woks for home use. Woks used in restaurants tend to be thin and lightweight. They’re meant to be used with immensely powerful wok burners used in restaurants, and are light partially because a chef using a wok for hours and hours wants something as light as possible. If you’re a home cook, a heavier wok with a flatter bottom might work better because your stove probably can’t get as hot as a commercial wok burner. The flatter bottom means it heats better on the kinds of stove used at home, and is more steady when set down. The thickness helps it retain heat when it’s removed from the stove or when ingredients are added. A home chef doesn’t have to keep lifting the thing hour after hour, so the extra weight is ok.
A commercial fridge and commercial freezer sound great though. They seem to be built more and more delicately these days.
The boots theory is dead
Built-in obsolescence should be illegal. It’s so wasteful
In europe it is illegal. Guess what, it destroys everything nonetheless. Seems like laws apply only to workers…
Hmm, there are some products that should have a defined “end of life”. For instance, computer networking hardware which will eventually be outdated and no longer get security updates. The trick is, the EOL date should be clearly marked on the product at the point of sale so that the buyer can make an informed decision.
This is built-in obsolescence, but it’s better than the current situation where Cisco will sell you a firewall at full price and then decide 6 months later that they aren’t supporting that model anymore and you have to buy a new one.
computer networking hardware which will eventually be outdated and no longer get security updates
I don’t think that means that the correct approach is for the manufacturer to build in obsolescence. Sometimes the security threats don’t matter to some users, so they should be allowed to accept the risk and keep using the item. Or, there could be a rule in place that if the company no longer wants to maintain something, it is required to release the source to maintain it.
Yeah, I get that. I just feel like the general EOL of 2 years also works perfectly well with 15 years for most products.
What a jagged pill
Hope the protest non voters feel good about themselves.
Edit: you get what you wanted. Fuck you protest non voters. This is the reality you created. Have fun.
Are you blaming enshittification on just this current administration?
Absolutely not.
So how long have they been protest non-voting for enshittification?
Time.
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It’s weird, it’s almost as if every time you ignore your own voters, you lose them. And, uncannily, if you ignore them for decades, it gets worse, you lose even more! It’s crazy!
70% of Ds are done supporting Israel. Hope you’re happy with Israel’s murder machine on US voter’s dime. And Israel gets universal healthcare, while we have none. Fantastic job.
You’ll lose more voters next term. They don’t want what you are selling
(Ds are now down to 30% of voters, Independents are up to 40%)
You are a bad person. Full stop.
Actually, everything (at least everything including in CPI) is cheaper.
In fact, during current Trump’s term median wages grew, by all measures.
Wow! You’re a treasure trove of bad opinions…
Anybody can use tricky math and crow about the results. So, even though you are most likely wrong, it doesn’t matter. I couldn’t care less if every American tripled their wages under Trump because that tiny-handed, mushroom-dicked, orange pedophile rapes kids. Your achievements cease to matter once you put your dick in a kid. Your opinion ceases to matter once you defend someone who puts their dick in a kid.
It appears that the CPI has also been enshittified. Only explanation.
CPI site says you are lying (US bureau of labor statistics). Just a head’s up, even the website has been enshittified.
Even independent researchers say that wages grew.
Maybe your perception has something to do with the lifestyle inflation?
Federal minimum wage is still $7.25 and prices never went back to pre-covid but sure thing buddy
The term is skimpflation
I know it as shrinkflation.
That’s when they make products smaller for the same price. When they lower the quality of the ingredients/materials for the same price, it’s skimpflation
Ah that’s what I get for skim reading the meme I guess.
no literally
Life is short but unfair
Well thank the gods for that!
On the bright side, you will have to replace it in a few years.
Not if you look outside China for your products. West Taiwan does export some quality but they’re unicorns
It doesn’t matter where it’s produced, what matters is who designed it and for what market. Things tailored for the mass US market are usually designed to minimize the cost of manufacturing above all else. Things tailored for Europe are a little earlier in the enshittification process.
There are tons of high quality products manufactured in China, the only difference is that the specs for those asked for high quality, while the things you associate with Chinese manufacturing are when they were asked to make trash.
Good point, with a caveat. The vast majority of aforementioned demand on China is terrible quality. That doesn’t mean that the only reason Chinese trash manufacture exists is because of foreign contracts. In fact, I believe very few of them were actually ‘asked to make trash’ by way of making it as cheaply as possible.
I am willing to stake that nobody, not even American businessmen, paid those manufacturers to create ten thousand seller pages on Amazon and the like with randomly generated six character names.
And things tailored for Europe that are produced in any other country are miles better than the slave colonies of Guangdong Province. Things made in: England, Scotland, France, Belgium, Italy, Switzerland, Finland, Norway, Germany, USA, Canada, Vietnam, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Nepal, even Malaysia and Singapore.
I don’t think we’re contradicting each other. Sometimes the manufacturer themselves (or other Chinese entities) will be the ones creating the spec.
It also makes sense that the trash products, which compete exclusively on price, will mostly be coming from the area able to manufacture products for the lowest price. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t also able to manufacture higher quality things when requested to.
China’s got better shit than the US now, you just gotta look for it.
PFF I didnt know the US exported anything good. I never mentioned the US.
EU, on the other hand… There are more than two countries in the world













