• hayvan@piefed.world
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    24 days ago

    Calling it “wrong orbit” is misleading (albeit in a hilarious way). They failed to reach the target altitude/velocity and released the satellite into a useless orbit. It’s the same as dropping a package into a ditch and calling it “delivered to the wrong location”. Technically correct but not really what it means.

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        23 days ago

        The point is, it wasn’t purposefully delivered there. Delivered to the wrong address imply some kind of intent, though a mistake. This is more “the driver got in an accident and the package ended up in the wrong place.” There isn’t an intent to where it was delivered. That’s just where it ended up, because the rocket had a failure. It didn’t make a mistake. It broke.

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        24 days ago

        Yes in an orbit the same way anything in free fall is in orbit. Throw a pebble and it will orbit Earth for a couple of seconds max.

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          You need to have a non-intersecting loop around Earth to be in orbit. Anything you throw that doesn’t apply some kind of additional thrust won’t be in orbit, as its path will necessarily intersect Earth.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-orbital_spaceflight

          A sub-orbital spaceflight is a spaceflight in which the vehicle reaches outer space, but its trajectory intersects the surface of the gravitating body from which it was launched. Hence, it will not complete one orbital revolution, will not become an artificial satellite nor will it reach escape velocity.

  • Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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    Stupid shit like this is more common than you might realise.

    A commercial geostationary satellite launched to cover Australia and New Zealand had its dishes installed incorrectly, causing spot footprints to cover the two countries to be incorrectly aligned.

    As a result a whole lot of satellite dishes on the ground had to be adjusted to “fix” the problem.

    Source: I had a ground station that was affected.

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      Not similar to this event though. This is a rocket failure that couldn’t complete its mission. It wasn’t “delivered to the wrong orbit” because it wasn’t delivered. It was released into the wrong orbit because the rocket couldn’t deliver it to its destination. The satellite is no longer in orbit I think.

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      What would they gain from that? Insurance won’t cover lost income from a dysfunctional satellite. Also pretty sure if you could get insurance it’d be extremely expensive for a launch on an unproven rocket.

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                Because it’s profitable? I typed “space insurance” into google and it gave me webpages for companies who offer space insurance.

                Why would you think that it wouldn’t be a thing?

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                  I didn’t say it’s not a thing. I’m saying what would be the point of using it for fraud? You don’t make money from a failed launch.

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                That’s literally what insurance is. They bet bad thing doesn’t happen. If it does, they pay you. If it doesn’t, they keep their money plus what you paid them.

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            It’s a numbers game on rocket reliability. You pay slightly more for your launch, but if it goes bang, you get a big cheque from the insurance.

            For the known launchers, their reliability is pretty known, and newer (or recently exploded) launchers often give cheap/free launches while they are effectively testing things - helps make up for the pricy insurance.

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      FWIW Blue Origin and Amazon are not the same, despite the Bezos connection. Blue does have a contract to launch a bunch of Amazon satellites, but so does everyone else with a working rocket (and some without).

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        BO and SpaceX are predicated on the same idea, that NASA was inefficient because it was a government agency.

        SpaceX efficiently littered trash on billions of taxpayer dollars all over the Gulf of America.

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    Capitalist Vs state owned? Or just way too fresh to the field? NASA had catastrophes seemingly owing to pressure, just as these companies are operating under.