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    That’s fine, it’s failed three times now.

    But if they have the votes to remove him & don’t, that’s going to be a huge problem.

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    Jeffries incumbency no longer a top priority for dems once they win House majority

    this just in from everyone hearing his weak-ass bullshit

    I can’t believe I voted for this bullshit motherfucker twice just because I thought he was cute and he flirted with me once. like I organized for him. I knocked on (possibly thousands of) doors for him. I marched through streets for this useless motherfucker! canvassing and al that endless campaign bullshit… FOR MONTHS!!!

    and all for this? FOR THIS MEANINGLESS BULLSHIT NOTHING OF A STATE REP?? AAAARRGHH!!!

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      And it begins.

      “Let’s move past thus” “We have to think about the future” “We need to reach across the table”

      Fuck these corrupt politicians. They know what Trump is and just want more after a short break.

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        I mean, I’m not even gonna say Hakeem Jeffries is corrupt (because I don’t really know), but I sure as shit am gonna say that he’s a do-nothing coward piece of shit. And that’s just as bad. He needs to go!

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        The sound of the ratchet clanking shut as the overton window locks into place so that it can shift right once more.

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      One of the problems with the Democratic Party is that the number one quality for choosing leadership is how well they fundraise. Obviously this makes leadership beholden to those with the biggest pockets, like AIPAC.

      We need to primary every Democrat incumbent who isn’t a progressive in action as well as rhetoric.

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        That is one strategy, the other would be to change the rules of the game and eliminate fundraising altogether or greatly limit it. Politicians should be chosen for their ability to champion needed legislation and to get policies that benefit their constituents passed. Not for their ability to cozy up to wealthy people to do their bidding

        As we can see with the current administration, fundraising has taken over politics completely. So much so that the fundraising never stops and has become the point instead of actual governance. This is a broken system that can’t be fixed by voting people in or out unless that is directly leading to serious reforms.

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          Two things are required before you can change the rules of the game. You need to have a super majority and that super majority has to want to change the rules. AIPAC captured candidates are not likely to change the rules they rely on to stay funded and in power.

          At this point Israel out spends the people on candidates, using US taxpayer money.

          As far as the current administration and “fundraising” is concerned. They aren’t fundraising, they are grifting.

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      Good for you for putting in the effort though. Every drop counts, even if some arsehat comes along and steals your effort. You still did your best.

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    Removing Trump requires 67 votes in the senate. There is no mathematical way to get those numbers in November. I don’t agree with him, but I understand where he is coming from.

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      There is a way in the November mid-terms. You’re just naysaying for the sake of it. But I understand where you’re coming from.

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        I am a realist. Living in the clouds gets us nowhere. I am not saying we won’t get enough seats to put reins on him, but he needs to majorly fuck up to push democrats to to win 20 additional seats. And we are talking fucking up in a way that makes people who have voted for a convicted rapist, pedofile criminal, liar, and overall horrible human being reconsider their vote.

        Unfortunately, I don’t see it happening.But go ahead, prove me wrong. Canvas, call, influence people. Prove that I am wrong. I want you to. I want you to make me swallow my words. I would love nothing more than to be completely wrong.

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        Requires the dems winning nearly every race because the maximum they could get up to is 69 right now. If they win every single seat up for re-election.

        The dems do have an advantage though. There are more republican seats up for re-election than democrat ones.

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          Not nearly every race, there are 22 R seats up for grabs and Dems currently have 45. They need every single seat. Some of those republican seats won by more than 20pts last election, also it’s not a guarantee that all dems vote for it.

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    Goddamnit I can’t believe jordanlund of all people is like the only one with a correct take in this entire thread.

    I literally don’t even know how many times Trump has been impeached. Three maybe? Is it three? Could be four. I think it was more than one. I don’t remember what any of the charges were, if I ever heard.

    Caring about that shit is such performative lib shit. The only people who care about Trump’s “permanent record” are politically engaged liberals who were 100% going to “vote blue no matter who” anyway. Do you seriously think you could walk into like a random warehouse and ask people what crimes Trump has been impeached over and get correct answers from anyone who wasn’t already a guaranteed vote?

    The way you actually reach people is by promoting things that *make a material difference in their lives," not some DC soap opera shit. You say something like, “No tax on tips,” you start cutting through the culture war barriers and media environments and catching the attention of people who normally wouldn’t give two shits about politics. But libs are so far up their own asses about “decorum” and “permanent records” and shit that even Republicans have managed to outflank them, which is an utter embarrassment.

    Also, for the record, the justice system is a complete joke regardless. Bush never got impeached for all the illegal torture and spying he did. Anyone with good sense who’s paying attention should know better than to look to the law (of all things!) as some kind of moral guide. The law only matters as far as it exerts power, a purely symbolic “victory” within a fundamentally broken system could not be more meaningless.

    Oh but to be clear fuck Jefferies, just like, not for this specific thing.

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    If only we can work hard to get him a majority, Jeffries promises he will only use it to play games strictly in his lane instead of actually leading and actively opposing trumps wild overreaches and global shenanigans. Thats heartening.

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    The democrats only want to bring us back to the exact conditions that brought us Trump.

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    Is there a progressive or, you know, anyone with a pulse running against this useless lump of flesh in the primary?