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    I’m fine with the working class being replaced with robots. That was always the dream of robots. As long as it means that everybody gets to live a life of leisure. Because that was also always the dream

    We’re all going to live a life of leisure, right?

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    Sir, the struggle is very long and ongoing since the so-called Industrial Revolution. You gotta have enough angry people to end the class struggle once and for all.

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    What bugs me about this is it’s always been their plan, for hundreds of years.

    Why is the average person so stupid and apathetic about this.

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    Replace us?

    Subjugate, control, and exploit us.

    They can’t handle not being feared, worshipped, and having no peasantry to make them feel powerful.

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    Just going to point out that there are only 3000ish billionaires in the world, and about 8b everybody else. Wouldn’t even need 1% of the world’s population to slay those dragons. Imagine how much pollution could be reduced, how much wealth could be spread around if we just dedicated ourselves to eliminating the Billionaire class.

    Personally I would even say the teams that slay a dragon, deserve a share of the hoard while the rest is redistributed.

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    Who’s going to buy their products and services when there are only two classes, one that doesn’t need them and one that can’t afford them?

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        There’s already a lot of evidence that the majority of the economy is currently functioning off the economic activity of the upper 10% of society. That 10% accounts for 50% of all economic activity. They just want to take it a step further.

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          It was 50% at the end of 2024. They’re probably closer to 55 - 57% now with inflation, doge firings, wars, tariffs, and off shoring

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              Y’all are fuckin delusional. Aside from sabin down there. Mans got goals.

              In my experience, people that chase infinite numbers are fucking soulless wretches. They’ve never enjoyed anything. So when I say they get bored, it’s their very first and only state.

              Also. We’re not talking about what they want. I am currently building it. You are currently building it. You can argue we’re slaves but that’s just semantics at this point.

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      They will buy their products and services from each other. That can still form a working economy. It would function just like any slavery based economy of the past, just with more slaves than usual

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      That is exactly it. Trump is creating a global economic recession too. Nowhere will be fun for the epstein class.

  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    AI oligarchs don’t want to replace anyone.

    They want businesses with money paying them huge subscription fees, and they want lock-in so that all businesses out there depend on their tech to continue to function.

    It’s the same model as we saw with streaming video.

    They couldn’t care less about the working class, one way or the other, which is part of the problem.

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      The “ultimate question” is: do they really just want a whole lot of people to die? They bluster around the topic like that’s a question that you just don’t ask, but when you boil away all the BS, what’s left is: are you saying that you’re going to lock people out of any possible way to feed themselves and their children and just “let them figure it out for themselves”?

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        Yes. That’s where the white supremacist eugenics comes in. They literally think they’re genetically superior and those they deem inferior should die. That’s why too many billionaires have like 10 kids nowadays. It’s weird christo-fascist “replacement theory” shit.

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              Tiny pigs’ eyes, mouthbreathing, and a hairline receding further than Melania does when Donnie enters her bed? Those are the sure signs of genetic superiority.

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        You must remember one thing. The 1% are called the 1% because we are the 99%.

        So when we’re left to “figure it out for ourselfs” in a life or death situation, historically speaking the end result is revolt and revolution.

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          Oh, but that won’t happen this time, the elite control all the cannon, most of the muskets, the army is overwhelming, the peasants are weak from malnutrition, they’ll never succeed in a revolt, they’d be fools to try.

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            The scenario I’m saying is they either succeed, or they die. Why would they be fools for trying, if they’re going to die otherwise?

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              Well, there’s the whole “let them eat cake” narrative to go along with that - generations of uber-power and wealth don’t teach much in the way of street smarts. The French aristocracy had no personal concept or grasp or even inkling of what desperation felt like, what desperate starving people would be capable of - and there’s the true logic of it as well: after they revolted conditions did actually get worse - as everyone predicted - but that didn’t matter: as you say, there’s no point in hanging on to a pitiful existence through obesiance just because it might be more pitiful for a generation if you revolt.

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                My father does not get this and thinks I’m speaking nonsense, wonders why I’m unhappy with my job and rushing things.

                Because I see it leads nowhere. I’d rather at least die without someone having a clutch over me for once.

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                  The question is: when does it hit the tipping point where enough people feel that way that you start getting suicide bombers etc.

                  The US is a little behind other areas on that front, I do hope we get farther behind instead of catching up.

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      I’m not sure how you think they aim to achieve that business lock-in, but many of us suspect it’s by offering a product that replaces workers.

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      Sure but the system would only work if the rich agreed to pay for our expenses via taxes. Don’t expect it anytime soon.

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      They’re gonna want something in exchange for UBI. Maybe we all have to give blood for their anti-aging research, or sleep in beds that harvest our body heat. Something.

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      The frustrating part is that a significant amount of that might already be largely technologically and economically possible at this point, but not as long as some people are hoarding 99% of the world’s wealth, and brutally exploiting at least the poorest 80% of the world’s population in their endless quest for more.

      It has to stop.

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      Except that will never happen in a capitalist society

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    Is this not just a jaundiced slant on the future we were all promised where machines do all the work and we lay around in togas eating blancmange.

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        The machines becoming stronger and smarter than us and starting to wonder if they needed the monkeys around was always a fly in the ointment of that particular utopia. Not to mention the monkeys themselves feeling a bit like a fifth wheel and getting demoralised.

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          The machines becoming stronger and smarter than us and starting to wonder if they needed the monkeys around was always a fly in the ointment of that particular utopia.

          That’s not what’s happening though

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      we lay in mass graves in that future, or at our hovels wishing we were at mass graves. The rich are ones laying in whatever the shit they are wearing, hunting us still alive for sport with drones.

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    I think we need to look at housing as a technology to spread as opposed to an investment to horde. Then do the same thing with utilities.

    Tons of reasons not to do it but it makes society less dependent on employment.

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    Sure sure but it’s the ultra rich who we need to fight. AI is a smokescreen for their greed.

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      I mean Alex Karp of Palintir just released a 22 point manifesto that has the subtext of “I sent some people a 23rd point saying ‘some of you are cool, don’t come to school tomorrow’”

      I bet we could get the others to also release an unhinged manifesto

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        I’m a strong believer that someone absolutely needs to American Psycho that man for the benefit and survival of the american people.

        You can’t have psychopaths like that running around. The rest of your system has failed to stop it from happening.

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    Did Bernie read my Terminator fanfic? The one where the 1% are living it up on some islands with T800 butlers while the Terminators clear out the rest of humanity?

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      Why bother with expensive machines? Just outlaw new vaccines, make it difficult for the common people to access modern medicine,and get them to believe in magic cures and faith healing.

      Oh wait. That’s not fiction. That’s happening now.