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      Is a Wisconsin Driver’s license even valid without at least one DUI on your record?

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      Oh my sweet summer child. Come to Britain. We’ll show you what liver-threatening levels of belligerent drinking looks like. The only nations on earth that might - MIGHT - out-drink us are Russia, and maybe rural Finland.

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            Ha! Ha ha! HAHAHAHAHA!

            Average abv of beer overall in the US vs beer in the UK is roughly similar. 4-5% in the US, and 4.5-4.8% in the UK.

            Wisconsinites drink ~34-36 gallons (~128-132 liters) of beer per capita. Per capita consumption in the UK is ~18-20 gallons (~68-75 liters).

            Additionally, while the UK has a great pub culture, that means the drinks tend to be spread out over the week, whereas Wisconsin (and really America as a whole) has more of a weekend binge drinking culture. This means that not only do Wisconsinites drink almost double what people from the UK do, but they tend to do so when only drinking 2-3 days per week.

            And, if you want to include liquor, Wisconsin still has the UK beat. Pure alcohol consumption per capita is 10.6-10.7 liters per capita in the UK, vs 11.7-13.2 liters per capita in Wisconsin.

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            The Midwest and Great lakes region isn’t the south. Our beer is worth drinking on several different metrics.

            4.5%-7% for common popular beers, and excluding the fancy craft ones that you’re probably having only one or two of that are 10%-15%.

            The south has fine liquor, but some states/areas have weird laws around beer that makes it basically tap water with a dream. Their tea will have more effect.

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          Montana is highest in the US.

          It should be noted that the rubes in both states drink shitty corporate beer for the most part.

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              Spotted cow is also one of the top ten craft brewers by volume in the US. They do not distribute outside of Wisconsin to my knowledge.

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              I’m assuming this is based on sales of alcohol. NH has state run liquor stores (they sell all kinds of alcohol, not just liquor, but are the only stores that can sell things stronger than wine/beer). They have no sales tax, and are generally cheaper than liquor stores in all of the surrounding states.

              Vermont, Maine, and Massachusetts residents regularly cross the state line to buy in NH, and NH makes it convenient with stores close to the borders and near highways.

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                Yeah, and looking at the global stats, the 2019 ones seem equally dubious in some ways, being mostly lower and rounded the same way. But to WI’s consumption, they also have lower taxes relative to IL and MN.

                Plenty of places like Eastern Europe, people make their own wine at home. That’s going to skew them, already high, higher in reality.

                Just personally, the UK is just fucking professional at drinking. Despite the fact they aren’t even in the top 10 globally. I know that upper-Midwest drinking a touch, but it’s just not the same.

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          You do know alcohol comes in other forms, right?

          Per capita, UK alcohol consumption is actually just slightly ahead of WI. But the UK is also only 22nd globally by rank.

          Romania drinks 150% of what WI drinks per capita, and a lot of that is wine and brandy.

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        I’ve been to Britian many times, you folks get out drunk by the Germans a couple times a year and by the American Midwest consistently

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          A former colleague of mine who enjoys a glass of wine of an evening was reported to HR as an alcoholic by a Midwest American at her new job in London. It was a US-based company so HR took it seriously and she had to explain herself.

          All of us at her previous job were astonished. We’d worked with an alcoholic - he had a bottle of water in his desk drawer that turned out to be vodka, and he got so drunk he passed out and fell off his chair. Miss Prim America had been on a work trip with our friend and was scandalised by her drinking wine with dinner every day. Maybe it was a religious thing?

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        The UK isn’t even in the top 15 European countries based on liters consumed per capita. You are higher when it comes to alcoholism per capita, but still not in the top ten.

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        You have a long history of drinking beer because the water wasn’t potable for much of your history. The rest of the world drinks actual spirits because we like getting drunk.

        You would handle a night of drinking with Americans as well as you handle an inch of snow on the roads.

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        They’ll never know the joy and sorrow of spending 16 hours in a Wetherspoons and not being on shift.

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        Czechs do pretty well too and they do it on beer. None of the cheating on vodka.

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      It’s not a 1:1 comparison is the thing. A DUI implies you can still get into the car and start it, so it’s like you’re bragging about only doing half the job. You haven’t passed out at the bar and your friends stack empties on your head 15 high. (I’ve seen the Welsh do this at 10am ahead of a WC qualifier that started 10 hours later)

      I’ve seen both of y’all get sloppy, UK and WI/MN. The Brits, but especially the Scots, do drink more that you statistically, and are just better at it.

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      Scotland versus all 50 states: Wisconsin carries the team.

      Scotland versus 49 states except Wisconsin: I’m not sure how this would turn out but I suspect Scotland would win.

      Scotland plus Wisconsin versus the other 49 states: sort of like a professional sports team playing a high school sports team.

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        Nah, the rest of the Great Lakes states would probably each give Scotland a run. I’m from Michigan and a lot of Yoopers I know could probably out drink a Wisconsinite.

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      I lived in WI back in 03 when they lowered the bac from .1 to .08. people were pissed, but I don’t recall them drinking any less, just getting arrested slightly more.

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      I’m a university student in Finland, and probably drink an alocolic amount of alcohol some weeks

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        For technical details : I would drink a minimum of 4 pints of Bud (the lightest pints available on tap) on a quiet evening out. Four nights a week on average.
        For thirteen years (I was drinking the same when I worked).

        And again, I was fit, I wasn’t even considered a drinker. Like, this was considered normal, social drinking.

        When I went to live in China, this felt like having a superpower :,D

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    After returning from a vacation to America, an English Youtuber was talking about the cultural differences, and said that what they call “going to a pub in the evening,” Americans would call “a serious drinking problem.”

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      People here really do suck it’s true. Not all but many, and those many include the establishment. Even as they drink, they will condemn it.

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    UK cant even out drink other Europeans.

    You would be dead before you made it past Pennsylvania.

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        That’s gotta be a regional thing, I have never heard the term “strong beer” said stateside and my life is probably more than half over.

        Domestic beers are standardized at 4.5-5%, which at 12 oz is the equivalent to one standard unit of alcohol in American Medicine.

        Pretty much anything that’s popular right now is an IPA and those typically start around 6% and go all the way up to 8% before people decide to start renaming them doubles or barley wines.

        Besides when comparing beer drinking of Europeans to Americans in the context of alcohol your comparing apples and oranges. Americans drink less beer and like 50% more hard liquor then y’all do.

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      They considered running out of beer, running out of everything but bud light and Coors. So yeah, I am sure it would.

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    To make this simulation a little easier to the compare the Western US is ~80M people and I think the UK takes em down comfortably.

    The Great Lakes region would take down the UK, but in a much closer and drunker matchup.

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      The western US has the secret elevation advantage. If were battling at sea level, mountain homies will be 10 drinks deep before they even feel a thing

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    So now that we know the British don’t drink as much as they think are they ready to admit their beer isn’t all that good compared to the continent

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      India Pale Ale is good ale. I know others make a lot of good beer I don’t even know about, like the Czechs especially, belgium went all corporate.

      What do you consider good beer? Because heavy hops is non negotiable for many of us, that may prefer the 7.6% ales over the weak ass corporate bullshit they sell to the sheep hereabouts.

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    As much as I hate the USA, this is the first time I’m ready to compete for my country. I’ll have a double-shot and a Pilsner, please!

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    I was curious. The UK drank 12% more per capita than the US in 2022. 10.8 L/person year for the UK and 9.8 L/person year for the US.