• starchylemming@lemmy.world
    210·
    10 days ago

    mature modern games are unapologetic and give you a genital selection too

    the question is, are you a penis a or penis b type???

      • starchylemming@lemmy.world
        85·
        10 days ago

        tbh baldurs gate and cyberpunk really lacked a proper donger slider

        would even be lore accurate with cybernetic dick enhancements in cyberpunk and magic in dnd

        • jdr@lemmy.ml
          42·
          10 days ago

          Sorry. That’s on me.

          I was the one responsible for implementing the donger slider in Cyberpunk but I kept getting distracted with all the donger slider field research.

          Honestly a real-life donger slider is worth the investment.

        • Wren@lemmy.todayEnglish
          13·
          10 days ago

          Cyberpunk had some great mods, though. It’s just too bad they didn’t show up in the sex scenes.

          • marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
            7·
            10 days ago

            You need to reevaluate where you get your mods. There’s plenty of mods specifically changing the sex scenes, expanding them, and allowing ridiculous things to happen within them.

        • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          10 days ago

          yeah and why can’t we buy exploding dick enhancements (or dick cannons) like that one dude we gotta give a ride to

        • xkbx@startrek.website
          3·
          10 days ago

          I mean there’s that one guy who said it felt like his dick was stuck in a goddamn pencil sharpener

        • LePoisson@lemmy.world
          3·
          10 days ago

          I feel like there are cybernetic dick enhancements in cyberpunk but they’re not widespread or used a lot. Like they usually are peddled by sketchy folks and don’t seem to be something advertised that much.

          I mean, good chance I’m wrong on that but that was kind of the vibe I got playing the game.

          Dong slider is a hilarious thought. I don’t know enough about coding and game development but it feels like it might be hard to get the animations right if you had a slider vs selection because you’d have to be figuring out animations for those titties or cock on the fly.

          But maybe that’s just me showing my lack of knowledge, perhaps a slider from tiny titties to big ol tatas is already a thing in some games. I guess it’s also dependent on the game engine.

          • egregiousRac@piefed.socialEnglish
            4·
            9 days ago

            We know there are. There’s a quest in CP2077 involving a guy who’s system catches fire.

            He’s voiced by a streamer my wife likes. She had no idea he was in the game and loved the absurdity of that quest.

            • LePoisson@lemmy.world
              2·
              9 days ago

              Oh yeah I know they exist I just figured they’re more like underground and poorly regulated was what I was getting at.

              That is a funny mission. CP2077 genuinely has some excellent writing.

      • BurgerBaron@quokk.auEnglish
        3·
        9 days ago

        The werewolf in Skyrim got physics enabled flaccid dong because I wanted to helicopter in VR and thought it only changed humanoid NPC and player character, not monsters. It was a super funny surprise seeing that giant salami flopping around in the scripted scene for whatever quest that was. Good job, dev.

  • lime!@feddit.nu
    145·
    10 days ago

    no character creator has yet to top saints row 2. they just have a “body” slider on top of all the normal “slim/fat”, “short/tall”, “lanky/muscular” stuff that morphs where the body fat goes. if the booblies get too big your character gets a bra.

    • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      10 days ago

      Man, I’d PAY for a modern remake of SR2 that kept it basically as is but added better gfx/QoL stuff. That game was the peak of the series imo

    • Napster153@lemmy.world
      1·
      8 days ago

      Have you seen the Street Fighte4 6 avatar creator? That might change your mind given how many eldritch abominations walk in the multiplayer hub.

      • lime!@feddit.nu
        1·
        8 days ago

        yeah, it’s definitely more insane. but i think sr2 is the best in terms of representation.

  • KingPorkChop@lemmy.caEnglish
    37·
    9 days ago

    Reminds me of the trans woman that took her top off at the White House under Biden and MAGA lost their minds.

    They don’t recognize her gender as a woman so those should just be man boobs and not a big deal, but they lost their fucking shit.

      • KingPorkChop@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        Maybe the vast majority of prude Jesus Americans. In more advanced societies and cities it’s a different story.

        For instance, it’s perfectly legal for females to walk around topless in Vancouver BC. Seattle and Vancouver both have public beaches where clothing is optional. The only people that care are religious weirdos.

  • FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz
    33·
    10 days ago

    I honestly don’t understand why they don’t just label them “masculine” or “feminine”, and they can just add “androgynous” if they want a non-binary option. Is there an element of this that is offensive that I’m missing?

    • Fedizen@lemmy.world
      24·
      10 days ago

      People who are never not upset are upset when designers don’t title body types as masculine or feminine and instead use a single character like “A” or “B”.

      Like from a design standpoint if you have plans to introduce more body types then lettering them makes a lot of sense but I imagine that’s also one of the first things to get cut from a budget because it multiplies the amount of QA that’s going to happen.

      • FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz
        4·
        10 days ago

        Okay, that makes sense. I just didn’t know if it was that way to be sensitive of trans people or something.

        • Fedizen@lemmy.world
          13·
          10 days ago

          There are insane people that think michelle obama is trans. I think its more the anti-trans people are prone to just make insane assumptions and assertions.

          Lots of games have little unfinished bits. Like look at Metal Gear Solid 5: full ass AAA style game and the entire ending of the game is just missing. I think the obvious explanation is somebody intended to have more body types and just never got around to it or it got deprioritized hard by the budgeting folks.

    • stray@pawb.social
      9·
      9 days ago

      I don’t think it’s offensive by any means, but I think it would be better as a society to get away from labeling things as masculine and feminine in a way that refers back to a traditional gender binary and assumptions. The A/B system serves that, though it fumbles when your character’s pronouns are also determined by this choice.

      Personally I think they ought to make two base bodies (small and large) and then add boobs as a toggle for both. And none of this business with separate hair and face options either.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
      4·
      9 days ago

      I think a lot of game developers just don’t want to deal with the drama that will inevitably happen if they give more than two options.

      • St.Elsewhere@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
        13·
        10 days ago

        While I agree, there is a connotation in many western countries to consider. Were women to be topless, they would be perceived as a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein because of religious customs dictating that arousal of your self, or even others is sinful. Changing perceptions would be a generational effort and, at least in the US, things are swinging more conservative rather than less.

        But, in some parts of Europe, toplessness is accepted on both sides of the aisle, so the world isn’t wholly broken. Asia has smatterings of the same. I support egalitarianism in all things, and it’s deeply frustrating that the human body is, mostly, stigmatized through crystalized, cancerous religious repression

        • velma@sh.itjust.works
          20·
          10 days ago

          Were women to be topless, they would be perceived as a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein because of religious customs dictating that arousal of your self, or even others is sinful.

          This is more of an argument to go topless than anything else.

          FREE THE TITTIES!

            • velma@sh.itjust.works
              7·
              10 days ago

              The only states in the US that have statewide bans on female toplessness is Indiana, Tennessee, and Utah. The majority of states in the US explicitly allow femme people to go topless because masculine people are allowed to go topless.

              How about we stop warning women about existing as women and push against people who would perceive women as “a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein” for judging them.

                • velma@sh.itjust.works
                  6·
                  10 days ago

                  What? I live in the US. I’m speaking from my lived experience here. I agreed that Utah is one of the states that outlaws it.

                  I can’t have a conversation with you without being accused of being aggressive?

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          2·
          10 days ago

          I’ve gotten my tits out in front of a cop in a red state in fhe US. Yeah people think things and it does correlate with counterculture, but fucking hell sometimes it’s too hot for a shirt

            • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
              1·
              9 days ago

              Ok but other days it’s just pretty hot and a breeze against my tits would be nice, and sometimes I’ve indulged that desire. In the same place. It’s legal so why not. And yeah mostly people are doing that at left wing summer festivals, but that’s ok, it worked to normalize it within those groups.

              It’s a spectrum even on an individual level

              • St.Elsewhere@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
                2·
                9 days ago

                That’s what I’m saying. It’s silly that customs disincentivize an entirely harmless act. That an asterisk exists- can exist, means there has been a fundamental failure somewhere.

        • wylinka@szmer.info
          2·
          10 days ago

          thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else

          You call men like that “perverts” or “sex pests”. Women can be those things too.

          • St.Elsewhere@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
            4·
            9 days ago

            I mean, I guess? But going topless really shouldn’t qualify for that. Everyone can be gross. I’m disputing what it is that should be perceived that way. Nudity should be more broadly acceptable.

      • Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zipOPEnglish
        7·
        10 days ago

        We need to flip the script and make men’s nipples inherently sexual. They don’t even dispense milk (this is a lie but most people don’t know that) they’re just an erogenous zone.

      • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
        6·
        10 days ago

        I saw a boob once as a child and I still go to therapy three times a month.

        To be clear though, it has nothing to do with me seeing that boob, that would be ridiculous. If society thinks people need to be protected from boobs, it’s society that needs therapy.

      • Rhaedas@fedia.io
        2·
        10 days ago

        I agree with the first. I think evolution would disagree with the second. The main purpose for partial display (aka cleavage) is enticement for attracting potential mates.

        • velma@sh.itjust.works
          22·
          10 days ago

          The main purpose of mammary glands is feeding offspring.

          Boobs can be sexual, but they are not inherently so.

          • Rhaedas@fedia.io
            6·
            10 days ago

            I dived in a bit, and I will concede that sexual use is not the main reason, since they evolved from primates and previous species in order to produce milk. But all other species don’t have them constantly enlarged. Studies show that there are many factors at play, such as providing more area of touch for the human infant and perhaps a more constant source of food since human infants take longer to mature. But they did develop the use for sexual signalling too when we became upright, if for nothing else than for showing sexual maturity. The human brain has probably evolved along with those changes to select which characteristics evolved more pronounced.

            So they have multiple uses. The very fact that they are a subconscious trigger for the male has to mean something.

            • velma@sh.itjust.works
              10·
              10 days ago

              So they have multiple uses. The very fact that they are a subconscious trigger for the male has to mean something.

              Yep, they can be sexual but are not inherently sexual.

              It’s not just men that are turned on by boobs.

        • gray@lemmy.ml
          4·
          10 days ago

          The same works with some nice hairy man pecs cleavage, what’s your point?

    • makeshiftreaper@lemmy.worldEnglish
      42·
      10 days ago

      There was a protest in front of the Scottish supreme court when the UK had a ruling that declared trans women were men because of their “biological sex”. So a bunch of trans women stood with their tits out and arms painted red since apparently they’re men and that’s OK

      Ironically almost all media coverage of the event censored their breasts

  • Kaligalis@lemmy.world
    27·
    10 days ago

    I don’t get why they aren’t just making a single body with tons of sliders for all proportions and some “man” and “woman” presets which are just values for those sliders. If it was just one body, all the clothing and animations would only need to be done for one body instead of two.
    What am I missing?

    • psycotica0@lemmy.ca
      35·
      10 days ago

      Vaguely, because having 2 or 4 models that are static and always look good is actually a lot easier to design and test than a body that can be lots of sizes and shapes. Like, it’s more work to make an outfit 4 times than 1 time, but it’s also kinda easy work. Whereas making an outfit that can be any size and shape and still looks right and natural and doesn’t clip through itself, etc is harder.

      But not impossible, so I agree if your game is going to have sliders anyway, and those sliders are going to allow extreme adjustments and not just “length of torso, circumference of boobs”, probably you’re going to have to take a lot of that into account anyway.

      Even still, though, having a “bunch” of sliders can sometimes still not be enough to get from one body type to another. Like, the fact that you can’t start with the male body in most of these games and adjust your way to the female one, or vice versa, means there are properties that would need to be made adjustable that currently aren’t, in order to actually get you smoothly from one to the other.

    • SCmSTREnglish
      19·
      10 days ago

      Presets easy, representing all possibilities with sliders hard

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    19·
    9 days ago

    I propose this situation be remedied by ‘free the nipple’ protests involving both man boobs and woman boobs.

  • yesman@lemmy.world
    12·
    10 days ago

    People who get vexed over gender in character creation are the same people bound to get really upset when watching a movie trailer.

  • 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de
    10·
    9 days ago

    My character in Cyberpunk 2077 has medium boobs and a massive dong. Haven’t seen that thing much since the character creation step but I appreciate the freedom. My character also may have only worn a fairly slim kevlar vest at one point.

    • Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zipOPEnglish
      6·
      9 days ago

      Still pissed clothing in that game shrinks your boobs down to medium if they’re large unless you use mods.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
        8·
        9 days ago

        Modelling clothing onto underlying body geometry is such an enormous pain, I’m not really surprised they take some liberties. Most games don’t do it they just have the clothing be part of the mesh and not have any actual body underneath, even in games with character customisation.

        In GTA you can’t take clothing items off, you can swap models but you can’t actually take off clothing. It’s the same reason why characters never get into bed and just lie on top of it, it’s easy not to try and model the cloth dynamics.

    • Soup@lemmy.world
      4·
      9 days ago

      My guy put on the diving suit and for some reason the one thing that clipped through was his big ol’ bingus.

  • carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    8·
    10 days ago

    There is a funny set of furry sculptures in the middle of Golden Gate Park that have very plainly been subjected to modesty rules. The end result of this is that the male subject is only allowed to have nipples when he is wearing pants.

  • Bluewing@lemmy.world
    7·
    9 days ago

    Just make your games first person view only, no third person view. You can be who/what ever you imagine yourself to be. You can be male/female/androgynous or a magic unicorn with rainbow farts and chewing cotton candy cud with the blood of the vanquished dripping from your horn. And it’s all in your head.