• Whitebrow@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      Now we just need to normalize audio between action sequences and normal conversation, that shit hella disproportionate a lot of the time.

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        I mean my audio system pulls the dialog into the center channel and puts everything else into the surround so it’s easier to pick out.

        I am shit at picking out a voice in a crowd, so that helps me immeasurably.

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          This should be a nice option, not a necessity. Sound mixing should be done correctly to adapt to the average stereo system with an average sound level by default. Then people who can afford a better setup and an individual house can opt for the mixing that fits their situation.

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        This is why I watch with subtitles. I set the volume based on action scenes, and they are practically whispering in conversations.

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    Not in the US, but I’d go even further and ban any ad mimicking an “alerting” kind of sound, especially starting with it.

    Alarms, ringtones, even loud door knocking. Even worse, traffic sounds with car horns (rare, but some still do this shit somehow). I can’t believe some of the ads I get are still legal, deliberately stressing you to get your attention shouldn’t be.

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      Those car horn/siren radio ads are worse than Internet clickbait and dangerous. Hate them worse than extra loud ads.

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      legal, deliberately stressing you to get your attention shouldn’t be.

      I’m thinking of a couple of entire industries that could be banned or destroyed to help people’s brains.

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      Punish the brands that do it with boycotts, bad reviews and naming/shaming online. Call out the creative production and call them hacks. That must be why they’re in advertising instead of making something someone would enjoy hearing.

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      I can’t understand how people use any platforms with ads. Any ads are bad, but audio/video ads are the worst. I refuse to use any platform that tries to hijack my attention like that.

    • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
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      I worked on a crew that took lots of long interstate drives when “We Like to Party” by the Vengaboys was a big radio hit. Every time that goddamned horn blasted in that song when we were on the road, we all frantically looked around to see the big truck that was about to kill us only to realize it was just the stupid Vengabus.

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    Louder commercials than TV have long been illegal, but they don’t enforce it. I know someone however that used to call or email or whatever the station to complain when they did it and they would stop for at least a bit because of those laws that went mostly unenforced.

    But the less cynical more hopeful generations before us had passed those common sense laws and enforced them at one point.

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      Yeah they had their chance. Audio streaming services have (mostly) managed to figure out licensing agreements so all music is on all platforms.

      Video streaming services all created their own walled gardens with various levels of advertising. Paramount even offered an advertising free tier but would happily advertise their own shows before other shows (noticed specifically on Star Trek shows but I imagine other providers do it too).

      In the end… Fuck them. I give up on trying to figure out streaming video with all its complications. Back to the seven seas to procure my own.

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      You can file complaints with the FCC, but the FCC doesn’t actively monitor it. The biggest problem is that no matter how the law is written, they will find ways to abuse it. The law actually requires that the average volume of the ad not be greater than the average volume of the show. And it even specifies that the average is a running average, not just the peak vs lowest. But then loud portions of the show pump that average up. Like let’s say that during the credits you play really loud music, or really loud bloopers, well that would bump average. And if the commercial had a really long quiet period, like a long section where someone whispers the side affects a medication, well that bumps your loudest allowable portions up. They can also wait for the quietest part of a show to make the difference more significant.
      And there’s much more that they can do that makes it seem louder, like frequency boosting and audio compression that are all totally legal. So, they can actually bump the apparent “loudness” of a commercial quite a bit and still be legal.

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    granny has the audio for her TV shows turned up because she can barely hear them. On the ad break the volume is insane 🙉

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      one of the reasons i have captions on all the time. so i can keep the volume low enough during the program that the loud(er) advertisements don’t knock me out of my chair… or interrupt my nap.

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        Yeah, in the audio production world, it’s commonly referred to as a “compander”. A compressor for the loud parts, and an expander for the quiet parts. Commonly used in speaker phones for being able to pick up a large range of volumes, meeting rooms for remote meetings, plug-and-play ballroom mic systems, overhead announcement systems, etc… Basically anything that you want to set up once and then never worry about tuning. They can be a pain to properly dial in at first, but can be extremely useful.

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        Indeed this is an overly solved problem. Personally I prefer ReplayGain for music and some video-audio productions while compression is great for making voices clearer. Thinking about adverts, compression would likely be the winner for making it less jarring decibel wise.

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      I used an app to level my entire audio collection to 93 dB a while back. Now it’s all the same loud at the same number. It just took a day of work.

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        There is music that benefits from dynamic range. Maybe not metal or pop or techno, but classical music and soundtracks for example.

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          I agree. We’re talking about different things though. It doesn’t level the entire track, it turns up the volume on the track (or down in this case. A lot of mine were set to 110dB) so all the tracks are averaged. It didn’t change the tracks themselves. I’m not an audio engineer, I don’t know the precise term. I still get, for example in edm, good bass drops, I just don’t have to touch the volume knob anymore.

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    How many times do we have to get laws like this passed?

    I swear I feel like all consumer protections have just been thrown out.

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      This is me, but with my grandfather instead of grandma. He can barely hear anything, so he cranks his TV up too. I think it’s almost 60 now. up from like mid 30’s from 3 years ago.

      And yeah, YouTube is a hostile offender of that. He watches everything on a Gemini device, because that device is the only way you can lock in your price for two years. Otherwise, they hold the right to jack you up to almost $50 more a month after 2 months of having service, so I can’t just throw an ad-blocker style thing on it because it’s directly controlled by DirecTV.

      And you can always tell when it hits an ad break, because you can literally feel the ad vibrating the floor.

      I feel bad for my gram because she doesn’t remember/know how to reduce the volume on her own, and every damn time I turn it down he turns it back up again the next time he enters the room.