• SailorMoss@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      47·
      1 个月前

      Everyone is moderate… in their own mind.

      If you poll Democratic Party voters they will tell you they are moderate. If you poll them issue by issue most of them agree with Bernie Sanders, the most radical elected left-wing senator.

      I think it stems from a profound lack of political education and decades of political propaganda. People think moderate means ‘sensible’ and radical means ‘unreasonable’.

      Of course most people think of themselves as ‘sensible’ or ‘moderate’.

      • alekwithak@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        1 个月前

        If you poll Democratic Party voters they will tell you they are moderate. If you poll them issue by issue most of them agree with Bernie Sanders, the most radical elected left-wing senator.

        Let’s be real here. Back before MAGA was a thing every Republican I knew, and I lived in the deep south so I knew a lot, liked Bernie. If the elite hadn’t done everything in their power to kneecap him he would have swept in 2016 and we’d be living in a completely different world today.

      • nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        4·
        1 个月前

        My pet theory is that idiots subliminally think “centrist” means “central” as in “center of the universe” and it resonates for them. IME the stupidest people are also very self-centered.

      • mystic-macaroni@lemmy.mlEnglish
        7·
        1 个月前

        No one said your coordinate system needs to start on the left and point to the right. Whar if it started on the right and pointed to the left?

        • GarboDog@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 个月前

          Gotta second this one, can start on any direction. But no one said this was a directional graph in the first place. Just a graph

          • Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2·
            1 个月前

            There aren’t any labels on the axes, it could be plotting time spent gardening against number of bricks in their house for all we know.

        • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 个月前

          Unless you are an Arab then it makes no sense to go from right to left. Especially for a graph without any axes.

          Ofc I have seen it in graphs that want to manipulate people, putting timelines backward to appear that things going good.

  • Leviathan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    1 个月前

    Average right wing extremist I’ve met:

    Has never read a book, much less the Bible, despite being a fervent Christian.

    Average left wing extremist I’ve met:

    Has actually read books about leftist theory, is willing to debate and have their mind changed. The march I joined a few months ago was basically full of Political Science students from the local university.

    Tl;dr: the bell curve up top is accurate, minus the Wojacks.

      • orioler25@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        1 个月前

        Could you cite something? I haven’t seen any of this, and I’m very curious to see where it’s coming from.

        • dreamkeeper@literature.cafeEnglish
          2·
          1 个月前

          I see it on Reddit all the time. Leftists hurting their own arguments because they’re repeating things that are just flat out wrong. Most people barely pay attention to the news, have no idea how our government works, and don’t read books.

        • WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          1 个月前

          Think of the woke tone policing thing, 10 years ago “leftists” got upset if you used the wrong words while ignoring the actual bad things that were happening.

          If you said “Trump is a fucking retard” the left goes “ok” the stupid-left goes “you can’t say that word! You’re as bad as Trump because you said that word!”

              • orioler25@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                1 个月前

                lmao, I think it is even more delusional to presume that there’s people younger than 20 on Lemmy. I’ve taught people who don’t even remember Obama’s presidency.

                The problem is – and maybe you are too young to remember this – people have always just made shit up on the internet. I don’t even know where the fuck you’re going to find people who don’t take issue with actual slurs besides chud and lib sites, Lemmy included, which are hardly universally"leftist" spaces (and it seems like you don’t know the difference between a “leftist” or “liberal”). Who knows what fucking bots you’re running into or what algos have pushed into your engagement based on your activity, I can certainly say I haven’t seen any of the shit you’re describing, even on actual leftist communities. You think “scumbag left” is what, new? You seriously think white, cishet men haven’t used slurs this whole goddamn while even if they did claim to be socialists?

                So, do you have a source? A link? Any actual evidence that what you’re saying is in any way emblematic of some sort of popular discourse or cultural trend? Or did you make it the fuck up?

      • jnod4@lemmy.caEnglish
        4·
        1 个月前

        Leftist dogma hurts business. Nobody ever died from having a 2 day weekend or from being forced to work less than 40 hours a week

    • WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2·
      1 个月前

      The bell curve is accurate with the way it is drawn but that is probably not what the author intended because the author is on the left side with the right-wing extremists that don’t understand how a bell curve works.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      1·
      1 个月前

      In the United States at least I suspect that there won’t be many of the centralists because the way US politics works there isn’t really a place for them. It’s a two-party system so you kind of have to be one thing or the other.

  • nanometer1625@thelemmy.clubEnglish
    23·
    1 个月前

    The bell curve part is fine. It’s the correlation between IQ and political orientation that is not. One of the biggest fallacies in life is that being smart automatically makes you a good person. It does not, and it also does not determine your political affiliation.

    • h4lf8yte@lemmy.mlEnglish
      5·
      1 个月前

      This! If intelligence were to make you make good choices, intelligence agencies would have no employees.

      • Pollo_Jack@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 个月前

        Most of intelligence is simply having less morals than the regular person.

        We got this gal for possession of two joints, we’re now forcing her to go undercover in a crack den where she could, and did, get murdered.

        We need to know how America built nukes. What if we just paid someone to give us the information?

        We need to know America’s military innovations. What if we gave an incel a submissive asian GF?

        We need a brain dead yes man for China. What if we gave him a submissive asian wife?

        We need a mole in the CIA. What if we gave a guy a bunch of money?

        Are you willing to force a random woman to spy for you, whore herself for her country? Are you willing to bribe randos for intel? There are creative ways but sex and money dominate that field.

        Oh and I almost forgot. What if, for absolutely no reason, we paid hookers to sneak LSD and other drugs into their Johns and filmed it using taxpayer money?

        What if we knew about an international pedophile ring, a comically compromised individual who will sell anyone out for a buck. What if we had a heart-attack gun and did nothing with it, you know like just let a comically evil person just live their life. Oh, the rich murder pedo is running for president? Nah, we have no obligation to do good or protect America.

        For the most part, intelligence agencies are anything but. They are however, comically corrupt and ineffective.

        • h4lf8yte@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          1 个月前

          Yes and no. My first thought of intelligence agencies was in the direction of the NSA and its brothers and sisters. For the CIA part i am fully with you. Just a bunch of amoral leg breakers. But the NSA attacks on cryptography algorithms and the predictability of random generators do indeed need some great minds.

  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    18·
    1 个月前

    All policies and political structures should be tested to see their influence on HDI, GDPPP, and environmental impact. Whatever improves people’s lives should be kept and whatever doesn’t should be ignored. Why have beliefs when we can have knowledge.

    • SuperNovaStarEnglish
      13·
      1 个月前

      why have beliefs when we can have knowledge

      Do you know how hard people are to manipulate once they have knowledge? We can’t go around informing people, it would be anarchy!

    • Kitchel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      4·
      1 个月前

      Because humans are storytellers, not scientist by nature. Better (and not necessary for plebeians) story, bigger impact. For example religions or money have diminished our freedom-loving characteristics to almost none-existence, but they sure are good concepts to knit us together to form a society.

    • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyzEnglish
      4·
      1 个月前

      There’s a country that appoints leaders for 3-5 years, and then measures stuff like human health, gdp, poverty, and uses this information to determine where to assign them next, if at all.

      • Zephyr@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        1 个月前

        That’s cool, who is it? The idea is this would be applied to everything, that is we don’t need to believe socialism or capitalism or communism is a good or bad idea, we can test it and get measurable proof.

  • Avicenna@programming.devEnglish
    15·
    1 个月前

    I am gonna take a guess and say that he thinks y-axis is the IQ and x-axis is some other random variable like it is a scatter plot except it isn’t.

  • wheezy@lemmy.mlEnglish
    11·
    1 个月前

    The right side of the graph is showing my imposter syndrome. The more I read the more I feel like I know nothing. Liberal me and SocDem me were a lot happier and definitely felt like they understood everything more.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
      2·
      1 个月前

      Most people are decidedly not centrist, at least not in modern developed countries with their famously polarised politics.

    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 个月前

      If most people were centrist, the DNC strategy of courting the center above all else would have worked and they’d have an unbreakable supermajority.