• A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
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    I swear I read an article about this months ago… is it the same data center and they still didn’t stop the gas turbines, or is this another one?

    Either way: fuck Musk and fuck the government who laid the foundations for such atrocities.

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    Funny how the self proclaimed savior of humanity keeps treating regulations like optional DLC: If anyone else ran 59 gas turbines without permits they would be buried in fines. Billionaires call it innovation, everyone breathing nearby calls it another asthma attack waiting to happen.

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      Don’t worry, it’s only affecting a poor area. No billionairs are affected.

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      keeps treating regulations like optional DLC

      He, like any shillionaire, sees people as NPCs.

      That’s why he was so enthusiastic to kill infants, children, teens and adults by cutting USAID.

      If he’s ever admitted to a hospital, I genuinely hope that he’s left to suffer and rot.

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        These fuckers don’t go to hospitals, they have personal clinics and on call concierge doctors anywhere anytime.

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    One man harming thousands. Sounds like a crime that would be punishable by death in olden times.

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      There was an incident in South Korea some years ago where a greedy developer built an apartment building with substandard concrete; the building later collapsed and killed a few hundred people. The guy was tried and convicted and as he was being frog-marched to his sentencing hearing, friends and relatives of the victims were coming out of the crowd and beating him while his escorts just looked away.

      It’s really enjoyable to imagine that happening here in the US, but then it’s enjoyable to imagine winning the lottery, too.

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      As Trump is learning with Iran, if you make enemies by the millions, you risk awakening a plumber.

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      Seriously…

      If we are to learn from history, and the successes of various resistance groups in Europe when occupied by the Nazis, we would learn that targetting the higher ups and figureheads don’t work. What DOES work, is targeting the workers - the average people who facilitate the machine. When the architect of the holocaust was assassinated, it only sped things up and made it worse. So instead resistance groups started doing drive bys on average ol’ Deborah’s and Johns who was employed to operate the Nazi bureaucracy, do the paperwork, doing the monitoring, doing the deliveries, average folk who worked for them - as destabilizing the machinery is far more effective than targeting figureheads. As leftists know so well - it’s the workers that do all the work.

      So rather than shooting Musk, it will genuinely be more effective to shoot at Tesla/SpaceX/X employees until they stop showing up to work. Same goes for banks, private equity firms, hedge funds, healthcare insurance companies, etc. They don’t even have security detail. There’s a million other jobs they could be doing, real work like helping to rebuild, instead they choose to make these demons dreams come true in exchange for a financial bribe. As my atheist father would say about religion - “I fear not the cult leader, but the millions who follow them.” Workers and employees of these companies are just as fair, and empirically more effective targets than the billionaire CEOs.

      …In a videogame, of course. I would never incite self-defence violence.

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      It needs to die ugly. All the musk children need to die or be sterilized. Everything it cares about needs to end, and be thrown into wherever we decide to dispose of used nuclear fuel.

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      Shoot him into space on one of his or Bezos’ rockets. Watch him explode as a result of the very thing he tried to accomplish.

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        Spacexs operational rockers are a standard of reliability

        Blue needs a operational launchpad first, they kinda blew up their only one

        Also that would be a rather quick death

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        Yup, the “penalty costs” are just costs of doing business. And the richer they get, the less impactful the penalty is so it gets easier to write off.

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      While I hate being cold to peoples suffering, didn’t most of them vote for the face eating leopard party. They asked for their corporate overlords personal profit to be protected from their lungs, their environment, any consideration. They asked for billionaires to be above the law.

      They are clearly being wronged here, there should be heavy fines, shutdowns and even jail time but my empathy is in short supply

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        Blacks typically vote mostly for Democrats while whites typically vote for Republicans. So black neighborhoods are commonly not getting representation.

        Mississippi is about as Jim Crow as it can possibly be, so it doesn’t surprise me if white supremacist elected officials are pushed into office via gerrymandering, voter suppression and election tampering.

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        Just because they voted for a leopard to eat their face, doesn’t mean they deserve to have their face eaten

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      Not really. If he has permissions for a temporary install, it is above board. He just needs to get a permanent permit before moving to a long term generator instead of temporary fixes.

      Should the permissions have been blocked? Now that’s a diff question

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        So you’re just going to parrot Elon Musk’s public statement about why he doesn’t need permission? Get outta here!

        He has more than 2x as many turbines than is allowed for a temporary install. The article makes it abundantly clear that these things are illegal.

        Musk doesn’t have permission to do this, no matter what excuse he gives.

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    Im sure the American legal system will get those wheels of justice spinning on this in a few years.

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      No, but Julia Roberts and Meryl Streep will win hella Oscars playing the plucky white women who “take them down.”

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      My city finally got a court order against a billionaire for unpermitted building that allows us to bulldoze his house. Just took 7 years in court to get the ruling…

      And instead of bulldozing the house, we were able to use the court order to strongarm them into fixing their site so it no longer damages the environment, their neighbors, or city infrastructure.

      The upside for the city there (aside from having to bid out and manage a major project in-house) is that we get a lot more tax revenue from a house that is brought into compliance than a scarred, demolished site.

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      Along with any dipshit using AI to begin with. As much of a complete piece of shit as musk is (and he is a HUGE piece of shit), the end users of this shit share in the blame too. Any idiot using grok or whatever the fuck anthropic call their horseshit are culpable.

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        To a proportionate degree yes, but AI is being shoved down the throats of workers and subsidized by the companies providing it too. I have some sympathy for the clueless grandma, or the person who’s genuinely lost their mind thanks to this.

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          I have zero sympathy for the willfully ignorant. There’s more than enough information and evidence that this shit is horrible on many fronts, and anyone who has managed to ignore it is toeing into dangerously stupid territory. Making excuses for dumb assholes is how we’ve ended up with the stupidest cunts ever running things.

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            Dario Amodei is the one renting out the servers while pretending to he’s the Wholesome Ethical AI Guy. His behavior is nearly on par with Musk here.

            I’m much more interested in him (behavior that’s extremely intentional, with the added slime of being deceptive and yet enjoying a ton of undeserved, fawning PR) than the average clueless Meemaw. Similar to many other trash systems, you have to look at the people maintaining the system, not the people using it.

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    people did that work, just because elon musk tells people what to do doesn’t mean those people should be exonerated from the consequences as well. the people doing the work sure as shit falls out there ass, know there was no permit. if there no permit, then why not a great fire ball in the night sky.

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      Yes. I’m pretty sure it’s a contractor’s job to get the permits. Is it not?

      Not removing blame from Elon. Just smearing the blame around cause all those fucks are responsible

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      Yea I’m not sure why this isn’t the normal way to think. The logic of “they are just doing a job and getting theirs” doesn’t hold up for everything so where is the line for these people?

      Oh shucks i see you’ve signed up to drag me to the death camp! Not your fault! You’re just getting yours! Now let me be polite and handcuff myself!

      We need to be more serious.

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      I agree, Elon is not at fault here. All he did was finance it with enough money to convince people to ignore the law.

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          Sorry, my sarcasm did not translate through text. I was trying to poke at the original commenters shifting of blame from Elon to the people that he hired

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    I have a suspicion they put the gas turbines near those communities specifically to fuck with them the same way they bulldozed poor neighborhoods for roads

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    I was landing in Memphis a few weeks ago, and you can see the literal cloud of pollution surrounding this thing. There’s a distinct haze you can see centered on the thing.

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    Ozymandias

    Percy Bysshe Shelley

    I met a traveller from an antique land Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed: And on the pedestal these words appear: “My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!” Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.

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    I fail to see the relevance of race on this context. Its like they want to pit us against each other but this is a class issue. Its us vs the oligarchs and they are presently winning

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      We’re talking about America here. Everything is a race issue. Its almost apartheid.

      I guess the turbines were build near a neighbourhood that mostly houses black people.

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        Yeah OK, I take your point.

        I don’t disagree with that. Generally the way I see it is the capitalists love identity based politics cause it divides us but really we have a lot of common struggles. I’m not saying I am going to pretend to understand totally what its like to be black in America and I see that are different challenges but I don’t want to lose focus on the primary issue which is wealth inequality

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      Yeah it’s a class issue. Being white alone won’t get you in their club. But they also really hate darker skinned people and go out of their way to be extra shitty to them.

      The two things aren’t exclusive of one another.

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      Musk comes from South African apartheid blood money. His grandfather moved to the country because he liked said apartheid, iirc.

      The US also suffers from an abhorrent history and current climate of racism on top of its deeply ingrained classism.

      Not sure how deliberate the choice was, but exploiting and hurting marginalized communities seems to be a honed skill of the Musk family (not counting his kids who disowned him ofc, especially his daughter)

      Edit: Yep, I was right. From Wikipedia:

      Haldeman’s move to South Africa was motivated by support for apartheid, and he was a supporter of the ruling National Party of South Africa. Errol Musk said of his wife’s family: “They were very fanatical in favor of apartheid… [Maye’s] parents came to South Africa from Canada because they sympathised with the Afrikaner government.”[23]

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      I suspect its more to highlight musk’s contribution to systemic racism and race-based inequality than to try and divide us by color lines. In an ideal world, racist shit like this should unite us even more through our shared disgust at how abhorent their behavior is.

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    It’s sad that the norm is to expect those in power will try to ruin lives as fast and as efficiently as possible. Just why… They have billions of dollars already… Why

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      Because they’re in a race against each other that they can never win. Elon Musk may have gotten a little wiggle room from his competition when SpaceX went public but you can bet your ass (cause I know all of you don’t have a dollar to waste) Larry Page is running his brain ragged trying to think about how he becomes the most powerful one. It’s just a pissing contest and unfortunately they’re really careless

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      I ask myself the same question. It feels like such an empty life. More and more money that they would need many lifetimes to be able to spend, which will be worth absolutely useless if and when they end up fucking up the whole world. It doesn’t make sense at all. Yes, it’s nice to have money to buy whatever you want, I won’t argue that, but come on. At this point I’m leaning towards them just having so much fucking ego that they can’t stop anymore. If anyone has another possible explanation, I’d really like to know.