• Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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    Anything but regulate guns, making mental health ressources more accessible or punish bullying.

    This normalizes policing by machines, controlled by faceless people who will be shielded against consequences just like cops are shielded now. Drones don’t have a face, a name or an personell number. If something happens (and it will), you can’t even point your finger on the guilty party anymore. It also shields those controllers from any social backlash they would get if they would hurt someone in person.

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      Schools are the obvious places to test/enact these types of changes too.

      Kids don’t know to speak out against remote policing via robotics, and normalising it now gets them used to it’s wider use in society later.

      It’s much easier to raise a generation under a new set of standards, than it is to make an existing generation accept a new normal.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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      regulate guns

      Yeahhhhh I’m not super stoked about the government regulating guns. Like I’m absolutely not a “guns in schools” kinda guy, but governments regulating guns just makes the proletariat and individual workers easier to oppress.

      punish bullying

      Bullying should absolutely not be tolerated but IMO the emphasis should be on restoration and justice instead of punishment IMO.

      If something happens (and it will), you can’t even point your finger on the guilty party anymore.

      Sure you can: whoever controlled the drone. If it’s autonomous, whoever owns the drone. If the operator or owner is being hidden, it is whoever or whatever system is enabling the hiding.

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          Because there’s no political or popular will to do anything about it. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink; that doesn’t mean water is useless.

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            Seems to me that it does in fact mean that that excuse for gun proliferation is pretty useless.

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              Well that’s one hell of a non-sequitur. To make a sweeping generalization, it’s not the guns’ fault that Americans are cowards.

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                A majority of US gun owners like what the government is doing, how does that make them cowards?

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                  I’m talking about Americans that don’t like what the government is doing (there’s a lot to criticise the American right for, but unwilling to act they are not). There’s plenty of gun ownership among American liberals, and gun ownership aside the Trump regime’s approval rating is in the tank yet barely anybody is actually doing anything.

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              I mean obviously, but with popular will you’ll want everything to give your cause an edge—hence the guns. It’s possible to have popular will and still fail, so factors that give the rebellion (or just plain old resistance, see: Black Panthers) an edge are going to be necessary. In recent history, the Houthis definitely benefited from having guns when they rebelled against the then-government.

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          Yeah because the vast majority of the proletariat here are white people who tolerate capitalism because it uses white supremacy and its white privilege to buy their complicity. Same is true for various other bigotries. If we nipped that shit in the bud and developed class consciousness, a revolution would take like three seconds.

          Like having a heavily armed populace is literally the only good thing about AmeriKKKa

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            What is that heavily armed populace doing? They’re not resisting a government that has entered the information warfare age, where every police station has SWAT gear and tanks and helicopters. The guns aren’t saving you from the government, they’re not saving me from the government, they’re not saving Cletus on 10 acre compound if Uncle Sam decides to pay a visit with flashbangs and riot gear.

            All the guns are doing is terrifying minorities, who actually can be controlled by them.

            Guess how I know.

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              They’re not resisting a government that has entered the information warfare age, where every police station has SWAT gear and tanks and helicopters.

              Except heavily armed populaces have resisted SWAT gear and tanks and helicopters before, but also: Even just forcing escalation to such methods is a win for the rebels/resistance/etc. There’s a reason even oppressive governments don’t jump straight to tanks and helicopters when they have a revolution that hasn’t quite devolved into civil war. Besides, there’s no guarantee the people manning the tanks and helicopters are going to be willing to fire into crowds. In a revolutionary scenario the government’s grip on its armed forces tends to be shaky at best, and doing things like whipping out tanks to put down rebellion tends to alienate people who might’ve supported it otherwise. Hell, sometimes governments just give up instead of going through all this. Obviously armed revolution (which doesn’t necessarily mean civil war) isn’t foolproof, but the hurdle to winning isn’t as big as people around here seem to think, since the very fact that such a thing is happening means there’s a sympathetic cause that will make some fraction of the army/police/etc not want to fight.

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      Like most American “solutions” it’s a very good idea from a technical point of view but a terrible societal choice

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      I mean the US is too lax with access to guns, but they also have many other problems that lead to this. I mean it’s telling that mass shootings don’t really happen anywhere else, even in places with effectively no gun control.

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        There is really no other comparable country in the Western world with the same gun proliferation as the US.

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          You can’t assume a correlation from one data point. If it’s the guns, then that’ll show up in data from other countries too. When’s the last time you heard of a mass shooting in Yemen?

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            Couple that with the fact that so many Americans wanting to shoot as many human beings as physically possible is still an enormous cause for concern even if we somehow prevent them from getting a gun.

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      Because Cletus has a tiny dick

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    In 5 years we can automate school shootings and put real shooters out of a job.

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      Hmm… maybe they could help at elections, watch and ensure everybody ticks the boxes in the proper column…

      /s

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      These are absolutely going to be used to break up big fights, then small fights, then arguments, then they’ll just be roaming the halls looking for any undesirable activities.

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        That’s probably the point. If they do a walk out for Palestine or something you send in the drones to attack them. Blame it on a computer glitch and if all else fails blame it on woke. They’re banning phones at school so that no one will be able to record footage of it happening and so that they can make the school security camera footage just disappear

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    So they just need to wear non-vented goggles and a filtered mask. Now they have easy targets who are blinded by the pepper spray to which they are immune.

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        Why? It’s incapacitated the potential targets. Let the drone shoot, the shooter need not worry if they are immune to it’s effects.

        Little Billy took a wrong turn, though. He slipped on the spray that settled on the ground. The ambient spray in the air has drifted into his eyes. Now he can’t see, doesn’t know which way to crawl. His panic and pain will be short lived, as the shooter no longer needs to aim, as his target is unable to flee.

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      Didn’t you read the article? Clearly they are…they had some self-control, and fitted the drones with less-lethals instead.

      You want them to strap it with an AR or something?

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      Exactly this! My son tried to print a picture of a fire alarm from his school Chromebook and some how sent the print job to every single printer in the building. The IT department had absolutely no idea how he was able to do it, because only teachers are supposed to be able to connect to the printers. Now imagine that with drones filled with pepper spray.

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    Maybe it’s just my inner gamer talking, but isn’t the kid doing the school shooting just going to shoot down the drone for bonus points?