Gavin Newsom is the epitome of the liberal elite who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. He criminalizes homelessness instead of working to address its systemic causes and is deep in the pockets of corporate and wealthy donors. His whole appeal is just posturing against Trump. It boggles my mind that my mom likes the guy.
As a non-Californian I used to like him but that’s because all the news coverage I saw was positive and focusing on thE “talk the talk”.
Then I started to see more that was critical of his actions and my opinion changed.
It seems like the increased attention since January over his posturing seems to have highlighted his shortcomings too.
Newsom is just one more rich California family trying to establish a political dynasty.
Millions of beds in homeless shelters have been built with his programs, yes, he does the bullshit harm tactics, but he’s spent way more money on real solutions than any other CA governor. One of the attack points Republicans have come up with is attacking him on the ‘‘rise in homelessness by millions’’ what they don’t say is that this stat is coming from the millions of homeless people who are now being counted as they have shelters to sleep in. They are calling it a rise because the number isn’t a guess anymore because they have shelter. Don’t fall for the bullshit. We have to not punish the politics that are actually spending money where he want it.
If people keep expecting Dem candidates to be 100% pure in their viewpoints then we will be stuck with MAGA again and again.
Newsom is a neo-feudalist asshat who tried to lick fascist boots earlier this very year. If a corprocrat like him is chosen, Dems are cooked because voters have consistently not turned out for them recently. If such a flakey and uninspiring candidate is chosen, MAGA has a better chance due to base suppression. It doesn’t matter that you think voters should act differently, because what is =/= what “ought” to be.
I’m tired of people expecting voters to shape themselves to the party instead of the other way around. Trump didn’t dominate other Republicans by telling people to “be better,” but by agreeing to satiate their strongest emotions. People aren’t in the mood to hear “it can’t be done yet, be patient,” when everyone’s economic situation has gotten worse with every passing year regardless of who is in charge. Democrats have nothing but false promises, which is why they lost against the American Hitler.
Also, his ex wife was a Fox News girl and Don Jr.’s ex gf so he’s in the same club as the rest of them.
He’s also Nancy Pelosi’s nephew.
Newsom’s aunt was married to Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law until they divorced, almost 50 years ago. This wouldn’t make him her nephew, even before the divorce, and there are more pertinent reasons to abhor both Pelosi and Newsom.
It helps establish his connection to the political dynasties he intends to perpetuate.
No doug. Pelosi was an aunt by marriage until a divorce happened. You can read up on it here. https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keeping-it-all-in-the-family/
Now that explains a lot
Hear! Hear!
We should put TotallynitJessica in the campaign! Reminds me of this quote.
“Some party hack decreed that the people had lost the government’s confidence and could only regain it with redoubled effort. If that is the case, would it not be be simpler, If the government simply dissolved the people And elected another?” – Bertolt Brecht
It is 2025, and we are talking about an election that is happening in 2028. The primary isn’t even on most people’s radar. If we can’t criticize candidates now, precisely when is it appropriate to level criticism at politicians???
Never, the answer is never. Never criticize, just bend over and take it just like the Republicans do. No choice, no voice, shut up and support the politicians who support the billionaire class.
Source: I have been seeing this same song and dance for 25 fucking years.
You know why Republicans get support? Because they at least lie and say they are supporting common people. Democrats give us this wishy washy bullshit of “well we did studies and we can’t really make that happen” and fucking nobody wants to endlessly be told “no, we can’t” by a bunch of policy wonk nerds.
If we can’t criticize candidates now, precisely when is it appropriate to level criticism at politicians???
Depends. If they’re progressive, we can lob bigoted attacks at them after the primaries are over like Gilibrand and Jeffries did to Mamdani. If they’re centrist, a couple weeks before the Big Bang is too close to the election.
“Vote blue no matter who” got us Donald Trump, and a Democratic Party that barely makes a shadow effort to oppose him. I for one am finished with that.
I’m not done with it. Mamdani won the primary in New York. People like Hakeem Jeffries need to pull their damn britches up and vote blue no matter who, amirite?
He’s miles above the average Democrat if you really look into all the details, the Republicans are masters of personal attacks and talking points that poison the discussion vs. Address any part of reality. Be careful not to fall for it. Granted like Obama he’s a careful centrist with no real desire to move the needle one direction or the other and that’s been the problem this whole time it’s establishment Dems want to play both sides and it stopped working after Trump’s cult. So. He’s not the answer to the problems Harris had, he’s likely to put his foot in the same trap and he’s by no means a liberal or populist, but he his a very strong debtor and a successful Gov if you look into it factually.
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I as well, but would you vote for a transphobic Dem, a MAGA Republican, or just not vote?
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In the November elections those are often the only choices. You can vote Dem or vote MAGA or not vote, the last two options get us MAGA.
In the November elections those are often the only choices.
Then don’t act surprised when people don’t return betrayal with devotion.
Those aren’t the choices right now. Gavin shouldn’t even make it that far. We desperately need new blood, someone who captures the anger at the heart of the american left-of-center, not another establishment democrat who will pretend it isn’t there.
What a farce. People don’t want diet Republican candidates which is why the Republicans control every branch of government. The DNC would rather hand over control than allow a progressive to hold office.
centrists, always giving away every negotiation before it even starts. I imagine back on the schoolyard you’d chase bullies down and demand they took your milk money.
Your leaders are failing you, Dan. Gavin’s got a pack of rabid dogs he wouldn’t mind much feeding you to.
ITT: centrists whining because a minor celebrity shows solidarity with a vulnerable minority.
Fuck Newsom.
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It shines a spotlight on the fact that Newsome has suddenly pivoted on this transgender issue. (basically as a precursor to running for president) And people should know that this shithead has no actual integrity and will do or say whatever it takes to get the conservatives to like him more for the general election (he’s pretty confident that Dems will choose him regardless of his policies apparently.) So, if he’s altering his policy on transgender youth, it almost certainly means that he’s gonna attempt the Democrats continually failing strategy of appealing to conservatives.
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If he was saying that newsom was right to throw trans people under the bus where you think they belong, you wouldn’t be griping.
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Who’s griping?
You, among others.
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And yet you’re still griping because Ken Jennings of all people isn’t anti-trans enough for you.
Before this “outrage piece” I had no idea that Newsom had come out against trans athletes. So it definitely serves a purpose other than click bait.
It’s criticism of a centrist. No centrist wants people to be allowed to read it.
What does Ja Rule think???
Remember to vote blue no matter who! /s
Reading these comments you would think he hates trans people. Instead, he said:
“I think it’s an issue of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness, it’s deeply unfair… I revere sports. So, the issue of fairness is completely legit," he said.
On the topic girls playing sports against genetic males.
That’s a red herring. Also, the science doesn’t match the fear. Anyone on hormonal blockers to transition to female no longer has a biological advantage.
It’s the same old racist, sexist, other-ist argument disguised as fairness.
If that were true, then there would be no controversy whatsoever.
However, this is the rare case where facts don’t have a liberal bias.
Transgender women are setting a disproportionate number of new world records in women’s athletics.
Sports should have two categories: “open” and “female”
https://economist.com/leaders/2022/03/19/sports-should-have-two-categories-open-and-female from The Economist
This is a great wedge issue for conservatives to split liberals.
Care to point us to some sources saying they’re breaking world records? I’m having trouble corroborating that.
I included a link
You linked an opinion piece that cited no sources.
It is The Economist. Are you holding out for a more reputable publication?
It is The Economist.
It’s opinion. Not journalism. It’s in its own section for a reason.
I was holding out for a link containing evidence to support your claim that “transgender women are setting a disproportionate number of new world records in women’s athletics.”
If that were actually happening, then I’m sure a publication as reputable as the Economist would simply present those facts.
It’s paywalled
I can’t read all of the article because it’s behind a paywall or whatever, but I would suggest reading some stuff by Erin Reed (Erin in the Morning), specifically this piece which is relevant to your claim. (Note the article was written by a guest and not Erin herself, if you want to)
As with anything that loud transphobes like to scream about, it’s wildly exaggerated. Unfortunately, because they’re so loud, most people see the exaggeration as truth.
I would also look into this study/literature review. It’s been a while since I’ve read it, and it’s late here, so I can’t attest to how good of a study it is. However, the authors do conclude that there’s no real evidence of trans women having any considerable advantage over cis women.
If that were true, then there would be no controversy whatsoever.
Brother, there are purple who sincerely believe that the earth is flat. Truth does not prevent controversy.
If that were true, then there would be no controversy whatsoever.
Because bigots would never just make shit up.
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How is it any less fair than high school kids playing against someone who’s being scouted for professional sports? Do you think it was more fair for high school boys to play against LeBron James before he was drafted into the NBA? The entire argument is bullshit and framed just so to give bigots cover for their bigotry.
If you want fairness in high-school sports, force everyone be ranked based on their skill level not their gender because that’s what wins games not a dick and balls.
So he doesn’t hate trans people, he just wants to inspect every child athlete’s genitals to make sure they’re in the right locker room. Whew, that’s a relief.
Ceding the framing to the Nazi position for political expediency isn’t much better.
I’m sure preventing medical care for trans kids will make things much fairer. As in, they will just fucking die and the cises won’t have to worry about inclusion anymore.
And when it comes right down to it, we’re talking about games.
On the topic girls playing sports against genetic males.
Thank you for the republican/centrist democrat talking point.
I didn’t really care to know a gameshow contestants political opinions.
Well, at least he is consistent with his Mormon upbringing, I guess…
I could be misinterpreting the article, but it seems Ken Jennings is actually shunning Newsom for being open to the idea that there shouldn’t be trans kids or trans people in sports.
As someone raised in that religion and fortunately was able to escape, I was curious, so I did some sleuthing.
Ken considers himself to be a ‘liberal Mormon.’ I searched through a lot of his reddit posts (https://www.reddit.com/u/WatsonsBitch/) and essentially he was never able to break free of his childhood brainwashing and has become very good at mental gymnastics.
I met a lot of people like him growing up: bright individuals who lack any willingness to introspect and search for logical inconsistencies between their religion and their beliefs.
Still, Mormonism isn’t merely a religion — it’s a culture that can be daunting to turn your back on. Especially once they really have their hooks in you (you did the Mormon wedding ritual). But I’m sorry; you don’t get to support trans rights full-throatedly and also support the Mormon church. That is Olympic levels of gymnastics.
Yah. I am well aware to the culture of Mormonism. I’m just not surprised by his lack of support for the issue. Unclear on the downvotes. I guess people were surprised that someone in the Mormon in-group wouldn’t rebel?
I’m more interested in what Wink Martindale thinks, but it’s too late for that.
In case folks missed it, it’s nonces blaming nonces for being nonces.
Who the fuck cares
Edit: lol you ppl downvoting care what some irrelevant Jeopardy contestant thinks
