• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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    amazingly effective post for making unpleasant people out themselves

    the fact that anyone can find cats unpleasant is absolutely incomprehensible, they’re walking fluffy pillows that lay on your lap and rumble like an engine, literally living stuffed toys.

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      You have never met an asshole cat?

      Listen, I’ve had some great cats. One in particular was so chill and cuddly when he got diabetes and I had to give him insulin injections twice a day, he would jump up and then snuggle and purr after. Greatest cat ever. That cat had his own cat who was super skiddish with people. If you looked up scardy cat you wouldn’t see a picture of this cat because he would run and hide if you pointed your attention in their direction, let alone a camera. They had radically different personalities. There are also asshole cats. Frankly a lot of them (kinda like people).

      I think some people have interacted mostly with the assholes and choose not to continue, it’s at least a bit understandable.

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        I have in fact not met any asshole cats, the worst i’ve experienced is cats outdoors who scurry away when approached.

        If a cat is “an asshole” then something is probably wrong, maybe it has an injury/disease that no one realizes because cats instinctively hide that, or it’s being mistreated somehow without people realizing it.

        All the cats i’ve gotten close to have been lovely, not necessarily actively cuddly at all times but if they don’t want snuggles it will be quite obvious and then i just leave them alone and that’s that.

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          Replace “cat” on that argument with “person” and it sounds a lot like dating someone because you plan to “fix them” or think “if I just love them enough”

          I don’t like like cats because they remind me of shitty people I’ve dated.

          Edit: and the immediate downvote (or arguments in real life) reminds me of times when you say “hey… your partner is kinda mean to you sometimes” only to hear “YOU DONT KNOW THEM LIKE I DO!!! THEY LOVE ME!!!”

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          Wrong guess again.

          I have two cats, sisters from the same litter. One is an asshole that only shows affection for the two hours before feeding time. The rest of the day is pure asshole.

          The other one who grew up in literally the same situation from birth is generally pleasant.

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        The only asshole cats I have met were assholes because they lived outside and taught other animals daily, or they had been abused by a human. Otherwise they are just skittish.

        But as a percentage, I would say of the cats that I have met, I have been able to pet 95%.

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          I think finding some cats to be assholes could be not understanding them too.

          I had a cat growing up people would generally have called an asshole cat. Thing was that he REALLY didn’t like being pet, except for head scritches. So people would see him and try to pet him and he would swipe and hiss at them in response. I get why they saw him as an asshole cat when they just saw him act that way.

          If you relaxed around him and only scritched his head, he was actually lovely. He didn’t really like cuddling either, though he liked sitting near you.

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            It goes back to the meme at the top. If you think all cats should be in love with you and enjoy any kind of physical interaction you like, you’re going to call cats assholes, but if you consider the cat’s preferences for physical interaction to be paramount and read up about cat body language so you can interpret what your cat means, you’ll have a very different interpretation indeed.

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      To be fair just like all things some cats are lovely and some are jerks. I babysat a cat once while its owner was out of town for the week and it decided it didn’t like me so it peed in the bed again and again. It was a studio apartment too so it’s not like I could just shut it out of the bedroom.

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      I agree with you but in the exact opposite way you’ve described. People who pretend that everyone who dislikes cats are unpleasant are the ones outing themselves here. You sound like children.

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      As much as I love cats (literally in my username), there are certain valid reasons, at least for outdoor cats. In most countries they are not a native species and are thus predators the ecosystem isn’t built for. If you keep them inside, though, it’s all good!

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      I find cats aesthetically pleasant, elegant. I have shared a home with a few, never my own. And yes there are nice cats, whiny little shits, and pure spherical (no matter the angle you look at them) assholes, more than dogs, I’d say.

      However, the idea that they are going to shit, piss, and then play around with the litter they have just used to shit /piss, then lick their asses / genitals, then lick their fur and then hop onto a table/sofa/bed, or yourself, is truly objectively disgusting.

      The misconception that cats are clean, is because they lick their fur a lot. All they do is coat their fur in disgusting saliva, often contaminated with urine / feces. Cats are objectively as dirty, or more than a dog.

      I love dogs, but I don’t “kiss” them, they are not allowed on anything; sofas, beds, or god forbid, tables or counters. They have nice beds, know their boundaries (most animals need clear and simple boundaries and rules. Ambiguous rules, boundaries confuse and stress them). I don’t allow dogs to lick me. I pet and fondle dogs, give them belly rubs, etc. and ALWAYS wash my hands afterwards.

      Dogs and cats are dirty by definition, and that’s fine, that’s how they work, just operate with their non-cleanliness in mind.

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    I dislike cats because they don’t respect my boundaries. Maybe they need a lesson in consent?

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      I dislike cats because the vast majority of their owners let them roam free, killing native wildlife.

      So from my experience in my country, cats are attractive to irresponsible people who show disinterest in protecting the environment around them and want a pet they don’t need to maintain much.

      There are of course many cat owners who keeps their cats indoors or in cat runs and I have no qualms with them, they’re great pet owners - but they’re a tiny minority of cat owners.

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          That is like, your opinion, man. The idea of an ‘indoor cat’ is only about 30 years old.

          The vast majority of pet cats worldwide are allowed to roam, and when they do they breed and create strays and ferals. It is such an epidemic problem that there are trap and spay programs running in most of the world.

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        My experiences with cats:

        Several neighbors had cats, all roamed free. Spent many hours cleaning bird carcasses and shit from the backyard. Needed to check daily to ensure my dog didn’t find said carcasses and choke on bones.

        Roommate’s adopted cats. Shit all over the house because owners never cleaned the boxes. The smell of ammonia is burned into the back of my nose. The cats loved me because I was always the one to eventually clean their boxes and feed them, but they disgusted me and I was out of that place ASAP.

        Now as an adult I have a deep dislike of both cats and their owners. If you have an indoor cat, I wonder why you didn’t choose a dog but respect your choice. If you have an outdoor cat, get fucked. Now when I see a cat waking along my fence I run outside screaming at it and fire airsoft pellets at the fence (to scare, never to actually shoot the cat).

        I don’t dislike cats because I can’t control them, I dislike cats because their owners tend to be shitty and I’m left to deal with what I perceive as another person’s problem.

        Now I’ll let the downvotes roll over me like the tide.

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          That’s why I got my cats neutered. Now I live in the country side with no neighbours, so having cats taking care of the mice and rats is a must!

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          Yeah this isn’t true, this is standard BS repeated by people who don’t have cats and know nothing about cats.

          Cats have a hunting success rate of like 20% at best so no they don’t litter the environment with carcasses, most interactions between cats and birds result in the bird flying off and the cat sitting there looking sort of stupid. Otherwise birds would have gone extinct long before humans developed language.

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            Most of my cats hated birds. they always scared them away, so they wouldn’t alert the rats and pheasants they were hunting. They were rarely successful (about 3 or 4 rats in their resp. lifetime, no pheasants, that would have been wild.) For my well fed cats it seemed never about the kill, only hunting.

            Well except when they brought me mice whenever I was on a diet, I think because I was malnourished. Helped me figure out the best vitamins tho.

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      The thing about cats is that their concept of boundaries and interaction are wildly different from people and dogs. Cats seem like they know exactly who is allergic to them and seem to be laser guided right to them because a lot of the things you’d do if you’re allergic to them come off as being respectful of their boundaries. What seems like disinterest to us seems like an open invitation to them.

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      Yeah you can do the same thing with dogs. It’s not a logical position, it’s an emotional one.

      Dogs are clingy in always want to lick you, gross. At least if cats lick you it’s nice and dry.

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      That is a completely valid reason. There’s always the ballsack cats if you want to experience one.

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        The problem with cat allergies is their saliva, not the fur, so hairless cats are still a problem.

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          Personally, I’m more allergic to the litterbox dust and shit smell than fur or saliva.

          Also pretty sure it’s going to be subjective as to what will set someone’s allergies off, as allergies are extremely subjective.

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        I have cat allergies, and I can tell you for a fact that I am still allergic to sphinx cats. Possibly even more so.

        It has never stopped me from interacting with cats though, I just have to try to remember to take a zyrtec or something before hand

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      I remember reading something a long time ago about parents telling their kids they were allergic to cats to keep from having a cat as a pet, and the kids growing up believing that only to one day discover it was never true.

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    I sure as hell didn’t give consent to being scratched and to be heavily allergic 🤷‍♂️

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        I also hate cats because no matter how much you try to hide it, your house smells like cats and cat litter 😂

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          I guess you only met cat people who never air out their house and/or don’t clean the litter boxes frequently enough. Also cats don’t smell nearly as much as dogs, they literally wash themselves constantly. Which does make them smell like their (terrible) breath for a few minutes but it doesn’t stay.

          And no, I’m not just used to the smell, I’ve lived with and without cats for long periods of time, and have experienced the terrible smells at some people’s houses (and never at some others, even though they had several cats)

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      Cats need to eat quite often. They usually (wild ones or the ones living outside) need to hunt 10 to 20 times a day to get all the food they need. So cats which were excited about hunting, had a better chance of staying alive. It’s not that they “kill wildlife for sport”, it’s their biology which helped them survive.

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        Yes but we’re talking about domesticated cats that are fed all the food they need and who people decide to unleash on their local ecosystems

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      It’s a double-edged sword though. The cats now love you and want to sit on your knee all of the time but also like to secure themselves with their unnecessary razor claws.

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    I think you can’t expect anything from cats. They historically lived on the farm with farmers, chasing rats and other annoying small animals, and that’s it. You weren’t supposed to interact with them much, they do their thing, you do yours. Maybe the children play a bit with them, but that’s it.

    If you want a companion, get a dog.

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    I don’t think my cat consented to being dressed up as a banana and have their photos shared for likes but I don’t think that makes me a horrible person.

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    My mom’s cat will literally punch you if you look at her funny not to mention saying her some shit. No chill at all. Cuddly as hell though.

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    I wish I wasn’t allergic to cats because I love them so much

    Maybe not the concept of them knocking stuff off of shelves for the hell of it necessarily, but everything else makes up for it

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      While your always be allergic to cats, you can desensitize enough you your own cat that you’re effectively not allergic to it.

      I’m full blown went to the hospital with a jelly eyeball because a cat hair got in it type allergic, with asthma to boot, and have a cat. Took months to get acclimated though.

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          Not at all, I went from hard to breath red itchy eyes and nose by being in the same room to being able to smother my nose into his adorable fur without a blink. It took about 20 days to start feeling relief and now it’s been about 5mo and it’s the best

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      Pro tip there is food called live clear or something you feed it to a cat for thirty says and they stop producing the enzyme that causes allergies. Life changing for my house.

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      that’s one of those things that a well-cared for cat doesn’t actually do, they knock stuff down and do other mischeif because they’re bored.

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        Cats, even well-cared-for cats, often will do things for no knowable reason, even to the cat themselves.

        We’ve all seen it: cat is industriously licking their crotch, leg in the air; cat pauses, leg still in the air, head slightly raised, tongue out, vacant somewhat cross-eyed stare; cat is bouncing all over the house at the speed of sound, chasing invisible interdimensional gremlins.

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          Cats do insane shit all of the time, it’s hilarious

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        I’ll keep that in mind, thanks! With another person suggesting the allergen reducing food (which I immediately bought, so wish me luck) and all the other advice I might end up keeping her

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    I don’t like cats because the feel gross. I feel an invisible layer of fur and grime on my hands after I touch them, I have to wash my hands after. Yuck.

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      I like cats, but the last thing I need is to be tripping over some poor kitten in the morning when running for work, which is exacty what happens.

      And I have issue just kicking them out, so I let them take my room while ai’m away.