I’m sure the poster pulled these numbers out of their ass. I wonder what the real numbers would be.
It’s guaranteed that replacing MAGA people with the same kind of immigrants we have today would reduce crime, but how much?
Yeah, that’s my reaction too. I’m guessing over 50% is likely true. The immigrants that make it here in the vast majority of cases is literally because they were hard workers and they came to work. Vs these violent racist shitbags who support trump.
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agreed, honestly what I would really like someone to do if they are able, get a large enough sample size of ice enforcers names and run background checks. So we can demonstrate side by side the percentage of people with histories of violent offences and property crimes, next to the low percentage of illegal immigrants going out. On a practical level it’s obvious how it will pan out, but posting things with “trust me bro”.
Find some actual numbers then.
It takes no time to make up some bullshit numbers. If every time you come across some obviously bullshit numbers, you have to do all of the research that the bullshitter didn’t do, you wouldn’t have any time for anything else, and it wouldn’t do any good, anyways. You’re proposing a completely dominated and losing strategy.
But then who would get all the DUIs? Checkmate libs!
Our prison system will fail!
Dodge Ram trucks just do that. They have FSDUI built in, so if no ones driving those it solves like three problems.
Why stop at age 50? Go all the way.
I assume (or at least, I hope) that they’re basing this on some kind of violent crime rate statistics, hence the cut-off.
It would be nice to include a source for posts like this, to help prevent it being labeled as propaganda if the numbers are legit.
My thoughts exactly. Political affiliation is not a statistical crime category collected by law enforcement, so I’d like to see the source behind these numbers as well.
Political affiliation may not be a statistical category collected by law enforcement (though I do question the veracity of that statement, but I don’t have the means or the time to dig into it), but we absolutely do have enough info on things like the political leanings of offenders and other similar data points to make confident claims about such data when talking about specific types of crime.
Not saying that I don’t absolutely want to see a source behind the claim as well, though. I don’t take any of these kinds of claims without some kind of data backing it up. Just that I do know that we can make some confident claims on the political leanings of those guilty of things like mass shootings, as mere seconds before Charlie Kirk was shot he was in the middle of arguing with a woman who was citing statistics on the number of people shot by trans people over the past decade in mass shootings compared to the number of people shot by conservative white men in mass shootings over the past decade (something like 5 to 437 if I remember correctly).
By looking at voter registration and data broker information you can connect that information, sure. On an individual basis it’s easy. But it’s a different matter to collect that data on all convicted criminals in the country within a given time period. The larger the time period the harder that gets, especially considering that people with older offenses and no recurring offense can petition the court to have their records sealed, making an accurate count harder.
And, speaking as someone who’s been on the wrong side of law enforcement a few times in my youth, political affiliation or leanings would not be part of the record unless it was relevant (e.g. politically motivated crime). At least, if it wasn’t part of my arrest or court records, then it can’t be true in all localities.
Is making an assumption that since most white males in that age range are maga and most white males have a higher rate of violent crime than the general population, those who are violent criminals are more lllelt to be maga. That is correlation and it is used all over in statistics.
That’s not how correlation works.
This is what separates the magas from everyone else.
They see a chart like this (unverified claims that confirm their prejudices), it’s fact because it’s on the internet.
We see a chart like this and we are instantly skeptical. Even though we know it’s hyperbole, we at least know what hyperbole is, and many of us even know how to say it out loud.
Only the truly evil, wealthy assholes live much past that. Most MAGA hearts just spontaneously explode around that age.
She’s kidding herself if she thinks immigrants have more respect for women but it’s a nice thought
There’s definitely countries that treat their women better than the average American.
Are they the countries that need to emmigrate for a better life?
Depends on the individuals personal circumstances doesn’t it
Which is why I doubt it
People from the UK emigrate to the likes of the US and Canada regularly and vice versa. What do you think about them?
Invariably shitty or decent people nonetheless
Let’s just deport all MAGAts. They’re easily replaceable, seeing as how they’re worthless.
Then people will be standing in line for years to get in to this place. Oh man, sign me the fuck up.
Yeah but who would want them.
I hear the ocean has a lot of open building space, just drop them in the middle and watch them try and pull their Atlantian empire up by the bootstraps.
A really big people maglev slingshot on the coast. Like a mile long and safely accelerates them at a 44 degree angle out into the ocean in a little chair.
Mars, maybe.
i actually dont want them on mars; i feel like eventually theyd start launching missiles at us.
That’s a lot of math and engineering to make missiles from Mars to Earth. Have you seen the general education level of a typical MAGA?
Any strong male figure would be able to control them easily. So… a farmer?
Someone hasn’t looked at crime statistics at any point in their life.
Why stop at just the men?
Can confirm; plenty of abusive/criminal MAGA women out there.
Basically, every Karen, to start.
AND THE CHILDREN, TOO.
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Counterpoint: the Ocean.
Have you seen what they’re doing to each other down there?
Even on land. I’ve seen what lions do when they take over a pride
Ecofascism is not cool! Humans are part of the environment. Indigenous people all over the world live in symbiosis with the environment. The problem isn’t humans, it’s capitalism driving the ever increasing exploitation of nature so the line can always go up. “Kill all humans” and “humans are a disease” and other such phrases are ecofascism, and completely missing the point.
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Agreed with the exceptions of the cordyceps fungi and the parasitic wasps. No paradise with those kinds of deaths.
I for one would gladly trade Magatards for immigrants any day.
But let’s be real, which sane country would accept a horde of entitled, violent, lazy, self-righteous child-abusing cis white Christian males?
Probably easier to just go dump them out at sea.
Send them to Mars with Musk. Watch from satellite as they cannibalize themselves out of existence within a year.
I want you to take my life savings, and make this a reality. Live-streamed like the Truman show. I wanna see which oligarch comes out on top in the battle royale
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A woman on Instagram made an excellent point. In the past few years in UK and Ireland, anti-immigration protests happened whenever children and women are attacked by immigrants. However, how come these same protesters don’t come out for female victims of domestic abuse or sexually assaulted? Oh yeah I know, because for them, they treat someone who looks different as being worse and held to different standards. It signals "only we can treat our women bad! Fuck off they’re ours, foreigners! Moreover, xenophobia is also a projection to bigots’ own insecurities. They look for someone deemed weaker to lash out to because they could not be anymore angrier and hateful to themselves. It is our lizard brain putting us on our leash and being enslaved to emotions.
Also some of these “protectors of women and girls” have convictions for domestic abuse. They were silent when a white mp was charged with sexual assault. They were silent when a white dj was charged with sexual assault. It’s nothing more than thinly veiled racism. We all know it. If reform Ltd do win the next election, the mask will be off.
I might have blocked her at this point - I used to see Annie’s posts constantly. She’s absolutely right, I just can not STAND the Facebook Boomer style of images she posts.
Why only MAGA men? Why do the MAGAets get a free pass?
Physical and sexual violence are VASTLY more prevelant from men than from women. And the sort of people who support hateful ideologies like MAGA are by and large, awful people. So while MAGAets might be awful people on average, they’re not committing near as much violence.
So being a fascist is forgivable for women, gotcha.
Fascist women aren’t committing the same level of domestic violence as the men, which is directly relevant to the specific claim the post made. I’m not making a moral judgement or statement, just directly addressing the post while you’re having some other off topic argument with yourself I guess.
Calling out base sexism isn’t off topic
I honestly can’t comprehend the concept of posting an image of just text on a microblogging website… Unless maybe it’s reshared, but still. I guess everything to try to grasp the fleeting attention these days, all down hill from here.
I’m okay with this.
Our south American countries have those same immigrants you want to include. We don’t have white maga men here and the amount of crime and homicides of both men and women are through the roof.
Is that what you want to import?
I think they meant the side of the venn diagram that is exclusively migrants and not maga
Those are the same migrants that increase the crime rates of their own countries and want to escape the shit they help create and bring their shit behavior to civilized places and are unable to assimilate.
We don’t want them here and those loonies want them in their countries?
It doesn’t make sense.
I think you have a warped view of migrants. The majority are not criminals escaping convictions, most are economic migrants looking for financial stability
I live in the country where those migrants spawn. I could have been one but I decided the world abroad is as garbage as my own country but with prettier streets and civilization. I know the quite undesirable culture of my fellow countrymen.
You have no idea how much they ruin our own countries and they keep ruining it by teaching their kids their lowlife ghetto cultures, spawning corrupted politicians that keep the cancer growing and growing.
Again, there’s a disconnect in what you say with an implication that shit flows up. The corruption comes from the top, and trickles down. Those politicians aren’t children of farmers, they’re the children of elites sent to fancy boarding schools abroad.
Those politicians grew up in the same culture of parents that taught them it is a good idea to trample over everything in order to succeed.
South American politicians represent the citizens of their own rotten culture
Deport them where though? Maybe Mars?
Lol, is this from Command & Conquer?
haha yeah. I considered a gif from The Expanse would get my point across better, but I love this gif too much not to use it.
Russia
Every single MAGA dipshit I’ve interfaced with IRL, to a person, has been a shitstain of a human being. Most immigrants I’ve met have been super nice and work hard.
Immigrants > MAGAt Traitors
