Around 2015, My niece told me she worked at a bank teller and the first thing they did was require her to install the bank’s app and rate it five stars. She said her phone is too old and they got angry. And she’d tell me they’d do “phone sweeps” to see if the app was on people’s phones.
Do min-wage companies still do this or do they know better?
Lmao wtf? Sounds illegal as hell.
I’m not installing anything work requires on my personal devices, f ‘em.
I have told managers, to their faces, I do not have a smart phone… While holding my smart phone.
So far, while most have quite noticeably glanced at my phone, none have actually called me out on it.
If any of them ever do, I will just get a prepaid flip phone and use that for work.
“What’s that in your hand, then?”
“That’s not my hand.”
Potato?
I’ve just straight up told an employer before that if a smart phone was required to do my job then they needed to provide me a company phone.
they found other options for me, but it really pissed off my supervisor. eventually i left because he was an asshole. gave them a -1 day notice and just stopped showing up. i do freelance work now. they deserved that hit.
Welcome to employee abuse. When your job is tied to whether you can pay rent, health insurance and credit, they’ve got you by the balls.
Personal devices are personal.
Nowhere in the civilized world are they allowed to do this.
America is a pro-business country.
They can fire you for any reason, like if they hate you’re gay. They don’t SAY that. They wishy washy it with “not a cultural fit”. Or throw you into difficult situations so they can fire you with “unable to complete tasks”.
I have Europeans who joined my company surprised at how little protection they get.
right to work state here. they can fire me because they don’t like my haircut.
Union worker here. They can’t fire me for shit unless I really fuck up
When I worked at UPS, we weren’t allowed to have beards and our hair couldn’t be long enough to touch our ears. Literally fireable offenses.
They don’t even have to give a reason. The only reason they’ll try to justify it is to prevent the employee from getting unemployment benefits.
yeah they are. if they pay your phone bill.
Then its not your device and you should not be doing anything personal.on it.
Then it’s not a personal device
If they’re paying your bill, buy another phone that’s “work only”. Although you shouldn’t have to buy the second phone either, well, here we are.
i mean, i’d probably just dual sim and pocket the money or something
It’s my understanding that companies (in some countries, at least) can demand access to personal data on company phones?
oh gods i’m in the executive phase of my career (or would be if i wasn’t disabled) aren’t i. that’s terrifying
uh, post! execute posting! maybe that will get me out of it.
Still no in any civilized society.
it’s literally a contractual provision. are contracts not allowed in societies? or civilization?
Correct, some contracts cannot be done. Depending on the specifics, the illegal parts of the contract are unenforceable, or the entire thing is null and void. Employers often hate this, because it limits the exploitation they can enact upon employees.
There is a bank in the UK that used employee bank balances to prove they didn’t need a pay rise last year, which they were able to do because banking with them was a condition of employment
When I was in school they once checked everyone’s phones to make sure we had installed Twitter and followed the school’s accounts for each department. That was about a decade ago so it’s probably TikTok or something by now.
If nobody causes noise, everything goes.
Back in the mid 2000s, the TV station Inworked at wanted everyone to haveout homepage as the default to increase hits.
Yeah our work we have to get Duo 2FA and I don’t like that, so every time I use it, I explicitly allow network permissions and then turn it off again
Also, the app is probably poorly designed, doesn’t support dark mode, and is probably very slow even on the latest iPhone.
iPhone defaultism is such an american cliche
The website for my place of work is pretty terrible. I have customers tell me all the time “well it doesnt say that on your website!” Now, half the time they are referring to googles AI answer.
The other half of the time I click and poke thro our website on their phone, until I find it. Ok it wasnt obvious and Im sorry our site sucks. But your reason for insulting me and my coworker when we are calmy and clearly explaining what is wrong or what needs to be done?
“The website said it as in stock”
“Sometimes it’s wrong. The website also shows pictures of employees smiling. You see that here?”
Interesting how the masks date these comics now.
It’s 2026 and I still wear a mask when I’m out. I don’t know why people act like COVID is gone and somehow long COVID isn’t a thing anymore. It’s still mutating, and endemic now, and there are a ton of health consequences to catching it that may not be immediately obvious, including organ damage.
I don’t wear one, it’s nice to see people’s faces. And sure it still exists, but we’re past the point of it being a big scary virus anymore, I don’t want to act like it’s 2020 and stunt my social growth.
I’m surprised how many people say they still wear masks, I feel like it’s 1 in 50 people at most, but these comments make me think it’s 1 in 2 people.
but we’re past the point of it being a big scary virus anymore
Just in the last 28 days, nearly 1000 people died of Covid in the US, and there have been over 7 million deaths from it over the last 6 years. And that’s only the deaths that have been reported. Doesn’t account for people who’s lives were cut short due or other complications in relation to the virus. There’s been way too many sentiments of “many of you will die, but that’s a risk I’m willing to take” around COVID-19.
My spouse and I have high risk conditions. Like, the flu nearly killed U.S. back in 2018, no way I’m risking COVID-19. Even just getting vaccinated gave me a bout of laryngitis and messed up my throat and voice for nearly two years. And my wife had worse side effects to the Moderna vaccine, to the point I was worried about potential hospitalization.
Also, I’m an IT Engineer and literally use my brain to make my living, and I’ve seen a massive drop in logical skills over the years among peers, it’s definitely affected people mentally to varying degrees.
As for social growth, I don’t care about that. I’m in my 40s and long past giving shit what random people who see me think about me. My wife is the one person who matters to me more than anyone, and I’m not putting her or us at risk for social cred.
That’s true, but for good or ill, it’s uncommon to see both a customer and an employee wearing masks nowadays.
I still wear a mask too. But mainly for privacy reasons.
Nord sells masks now?
Funny. Nord has a bit of a tainted reputation though. I wouldn’t touch them with a 10ft pole.
I wouldn’t fucking trust any of them, since they literally get to see ALL your data, ALL the time. You as a pleb and not 733t h4x0r will literally never know if they launder your data and all they have to do is know whom not to bother as there are very, very few of such people as a whole.
You clearly haven’t done a lot of research then. Lots of VPNs have no logs policies, those VPN providers have been audited, and their claims of no logs hold up.
Take Proton VPN for example. They’re based in Switzerland. According to Swiss law, If you collect data, you must justify it, protect it, and be transparent about it. Proton wouldn’t risk their entire business on the assumption that they won’t be caught lying. Why do you think so many companies set up their headquarters in Switzerland?
And do you honestly believe there are no undernet layers to any of that?
most people already had it and assess the risk accordingly
the great danger of covid came from the fact that we had neither herd immunity or vaccines in the past. shielding the vulnerable was never a real priority but a convenient side quest
now it’s comparable to the “regular” flu
the brain damage is already done too
the brain damage is already done too
Oh yeah, that part is clear.
As far as it being like regular flu… well I don’t want that either. It nearly killed my wife and I some years back a bit before the pandemic. We both have high risk conditions.
I just wear a mask by default. It saves social energy for me, offers modest protection from whatever is out there, and keeps my face warm during chilly weather. Aside from fogging, there are no real downsides for me.
Not even to use your employee discount?
At a place I worked I wasn’t allowed to use coupons but usually employee discount was more. But we also made sneak accounts for our moms so when customers didn’t use their phone number to get points we’d use our sneak account to accumulate a ton of points
I know a couple of people who got into some trouble for getting free points like that. Not saying every company is looking for it, but I know some are and not all the companies they worked at where huge mega corps. Just be careful out there people.
It’s be pretty easy to see the patterns if they’re looking
Reward Points are there to keep you Loyal, not to give you free things
Where I used to work employees could access the discount just by ticking a box in the cash-register system. None of my co-workers had a fidelity card, although one of our tasks was to push it aggressively to customers.
This comic was honestly mental healthcare during quarantine when I was working retail. This brings me back.
This one has pre-2000 comic feels. I’m gonna delve into StBeals. Is it like “Saint Beals” or “Street Beals”? I never worked retail and my old webcomic tanked from lacking that bit. This looks like fun.
Off the the google machine!They’re all pretty great and mostly focused on telling Karens to go fuck themselves.
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