if you lost a whole inch from your circumcision, they did it wrong.
that said, when I was around 18 or so, I really had it out with my parents over circumcising me. at 47, I’m still unhappy about it.
It’s unconsentual genital mutilation of babies, a beyond cruel excercise - unless there is a clear medical reason
I don’t believe there is any medically justified reason beyond what would require anything to be amputated. All of the “medical reasons” people tout are thin bullshit. Anything people have claimed could be accomplished with much less invasive procedures. I’m furious and deeply hurt my parents did this to me. The whole reason is to reduce sensation during sex because sex is a “sin”. My parents had the fucking gall to tell me looking at porn will impact my relationships after doing this shit to me.
All of the “medical reasons” people tout are thin bullshit.
“it gets gross if you dont wash it” THEN FUCKING WASH IT IDIOT
In my twenties I’ve caught a fungus down there. It caused some scarring on the foreskin. Basically it got tighter, so much so that undoing (what’s the term??) it during erections was painful.
The doctor said I needed to be circumcised, so I got the surgery. Healing was not too bad and I can’t say it had any lasting impact (in sensitivity or otherwise).
EDIT:
I lie. There is a lasting impact — I can no longer wank without lubrication. With foreskin I had no need for it.Balanitis, doctor told me the same thing. I said fuck that, managed to stretch the skin back into functioning properly. Painful as fuck but worth it.
Good for you
Yep, right on. There can be a need for it when the foreskin is too tight during puberty, but it doesn’t fully pull back until that time in a boy’s life anyway so the circumcision is not necessary from birth, apart from maybe in the case of a rare deformity.
Are you sure you are not a chick though?
I am yes. I also have a circumcised penis. What is your point?
Your confusion is obvious in your post, which is why I asked. Doesn’t seem like you are very fond of yourself, but you don’t owe a debt for existing. Just be you and fuck everyone else, especially the people who say fuck everyone else. Don’t buy a boat
what??? how is this relevant
It’s probably reasonable to ask you if you are sure you are not a chick?
How is asking that relevant?
It’s reasonable to ask whether you yourself are, but in this context it seems pretty irrelevant to ask to others.
I didn’t even know I was circumcised at birth until like halfway through highschool and I didn’t really care after finding out. And having now seen penises that are uncircumcised, I’m kinda glad I was. From my perspective, it didn’t hurt and I didn’t even know until 17ish years later. Everything works perfectly normally.
All of that was a buildup to a genuine question of why do you feel so upset by it? I don’t mean to be argumentative or dismissive, just want to see the point of view from someone else
we all have our own feelings about it. I’m not trying to say that the way you feel about your own circumcision is right or wrong, or how any man who decides - on their own, as an informed adult - is right or wrong to do so.
but I would vehemently argue that it is an adult man’s decision to make, not a parent’s decision to make for their infant son-- unless some medical condition makes it necessary to do so at that time (which are quite rare). and, yes, I understand that there are religious considerations, but, as an atheist, I’m not so sympathetic to that, either, as I classify all genital mutilation in the same category, regardless of age or gender: it is a decision to be made by the subject of the procedure, and only when they are a consenting, informed adult.
There are several possible reasons why other men might be upset, although your own equipment still works perfectly normally:
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Just like women’s sexual responses differ, men’s sexual responses may differ, as well. I’ve learned from a friend, who’s had many male partners, that some men get intense pleasure from manipulation of their foreskin. Some can even reach orgasm that way. I’ve learned from several (intact) men on Reddit and Lemmy that their primary source of sexual sensation is their foreskin, rather than their glans. Losing a major source of pleasure could be upsetting.
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This same friend also reports that, in his experience, intact men have better awareness of their own state of arousal, and better control of it. In brief, they can “last longer.” This is anecdotal, of course, but I seem to recall reading some research to back that up. That’s part of the reason why he’s upset by his being circumcised.
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“Circumcision” is not just one thing. It ranges from the traditional bris (a small snip at the tip of the penis, so that the tip of the glans just peeks out) to amputation of the entire mobile skin system of the penis (about 15 sq. in. of adult tissue gone). I would imagine that men who have drum-tight skin on their penises, and must use lube to facilitate penetration or masturbation, might not like it, whereas a man whose glans was still covered when his penis was flaccid might not notice much difference.
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The dorsal nerve of the penis can be severed during the procedure, removing sensation from the glans almost entirely, leading to erectile and performance issues, as well as greatly reduced enjoyment of sex.
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The healing of the circumcision wound can go not-quite-perfectly, leading to adhesions, assymetry, tight frenulums, phantom pain, and scarring. Journalist Gary Shteyngart wrote an essay about the odyssey of pain that he was thrown into when a skin bridge (an adhesion) on his penis became infected. Worse, I recall a letter published in Savage Love from a man whose circumcision scar was so thick and inelastic that it caused the end of his penis to go ischemic, then necrotic, and then fall off when he was an infant. He’s left with a stub of a penis, and a pretty good reason to be upset about circumcision, I’d say.
ETA: I did not think of this, but @theleadensea@sh.itjust.works pointed out that removal of the foreskin complicates bottom surgery for trans women, I would guess because it gives the surgeon less tissue to work with.
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So the problem is a lot of Americans/Catholics think a circumcision is something responsible adults do to their children to help them avoid potential health problems. They also erroneously believe the foreskin serves no purpose and is one of those we evolved with it, but it is useless kind of things.
They dont know the truth that it actually has a large number of nerve endings and its removal was originally pushed for to reduce the pleasure boys felt from masturbation, in the hope they would not masturbate. Because sex should only be for reproduction according to those who originally pushed for circumcision… It is like what is done to some women in muslim communities. Difference being woman have even more nerve endings in the clitoris and men can still experience some pleasure without the foreskin, but much less. This is why circumcision is often considered mutilation, except for those rare medical exceptions. Parents are unknowingly removing their childs right to sexual pleasure under the guise it is for their health.
It really needs to end as simple hygiene is all that is needed for the health reasons.
As a circumcised man, who was once a teenage boy, I’m surprised that generation after generation of men who’d also been circumcised teenage boys never acknowledged “ya know, this doesn’t do a goddamn thing to keep’em from beatin’ their dicks”. But science and logic has never been religion’s strong suit.
Well, we don’t do it the way Dr. Kellogg first subscribed it. You’re supposed to do it as a punishment the first time you catch them in the act. It probably only stops them while they heal, but it will stop them.
You probably don’t want to know what he subscribed for girls in the same situation.
They only really stopped mutilating girls in the 1930’s, with holdouts doing it as last as the 40’s
What? I live in a traditionally Catholic region and I haven’t heard of anyone getting circumcized, now or in the past.
Guess it depends where. It is extremely common here amongst catholics in Texas.
I mean, you lost a significant amount of your sensory nerves in your penis, but you do you.
Anyway, I fucking didn’t do it to my kids because it is unconscionable to mutilate a child’s (possibly) completely functional penis for aesthetic reasons.
BTW, You are bragging that you happened to be lucky. Many are not.
Obviously most circumsised people have no issues with their dicks. And a lot probably sees it as a positive. I have heard a people claim that they look better.
Doing plastic surgery on babies is still a bit weird to me.
In my country, most men I know of feel satisfied with the form of their tools, just there is more emphasis on having the length and being potent on bed. Likewise, local anti-circumcision activists are also a very small minority.
But here in this largely Western-progressive dominated fora where individual rights and personal consent are paramount, male circumcision is met with very strong if not violent negative reaction.
Because sometimes there are scars. Sometimes they cut WAY too much and the skin left is too thin.
Nature designed that weiner, no need for cosmetic customization.
Its removing pieces of your child for no damned good reason. You’re not as ok as you think you are if the mere sight of a natural penis grosses you out.
Never said it grosses me out, just that I think my penis looks nicer than others. Thanks for forming my opinions and diagnosing my mental health for me though
So, if you’ve every had to clean out the inside of your son’s penis, you might feel a little bit differently. Circumcision was considered a standard hygienic practice for decades. There are some marginal benefits to health and safety, particularly wrt transmission of STDs. But given the modernizations in health and safety (particularly condoms and milder skin-friendly soap) it definitely feels archaic.
I’m circumcized. I don’t think it’s a big deal. My son isn’t (largely at the objections of my wife who was much more anti-circumcision than I am). So far, he hasn’t seemed to mind having a foreskin. It strikes me as something people just like to get mad at. It has no discernible impact either of our lives, except in the case where I’m giving him a bath.
Compared to, say, the consequences of laws around abortion or modern contraception or vaccination, this seems trivial to the point of being a deliberately engineered distraction.
So, if you’ve every had to clean out the inside of your son’s penis, you might feel a little bit differently. Circumcision was considered a standard hygienic practice for decades. There are some marginal benefits to health and safety, particularly wrt transmission of STDs. But given the modernizations in health and safety (particularly condoms and milder skin-friendly soap) it definitely feels archaic.
It feels archaic because this is archaic bullshit. it takes about a second to pull back the foreskin and wash it with the rest of the penis/pubic area during a normal bath the bathing a baby/toddler, and teaching a child this very normal habit is very simple and easy. The vast majority of human males on Earth handle this very normal task, and have done so for the entire existence of humanity.
Just because the misinformation you just repeated was pushed by the American medical establishment for a few decades doesn’t make it fact, and it has been widely repudiated by the medical establishments everywhere else, and even here in the US in recent decades.
It is no longer widely recommended, even in the US.
And your personal preference isn’t really medically relevant.
The vast majority of human males on Earth handle this very normal task, and have done so for the entire existence of humanity.
Go ask around the medical community and you’ll discover quite a few didn’t handle it well. Kids don’t do a good job of washing. That area is easily infected, even setting aside STDs. The procedure was created precisely in response to these perfectly normal human conditions, along with a litany of other - now largely archaic - practices for avoiding illness and infection.
It is no longer widely recommended, even in the US.
Even that fact varies state-by-state. It is no longer automatically covered by health insurance, which has resulted in a large drop-off in the practice domestically. But then that’s been the US standard for medicine going on 50 years.
And your personal preference isn’t really medically relevant.
It’s highly relevant, since parents are the ultimate arbiters of their childrens’ health and well-being.
Go ask around the medical community and you’ll discover quite a few didn’t handle it well. Kids don’t do a good job of washing.
I have, and this isn’t true. it’s also not supported by the medical documentation available. Instructing kids, especially when you start from an early age, to develop proper hygiene habits is pretty easy. I’ve even borne witness to it many times personally, although I’m not necessarily offering my personal experience as proof.
It’s highly relevant
not when you’re making claims about everyone everywhere. what matters there is evidence to back up your claims, which you have yet to provide.
so, since you were the one who initially made such claims… please back them up from reliable sources such as the AMA, for example.
I have, and this isn’t true.
I’ve got a friend who is a PA that has given me some very unpleasant stories about infected foreskins.
Instructing kids, especially when you start from an early age
Sure. People can do lots of things if they are instructed well at an early age. But then people aren’t instructed well. And that’s where you run into problems.
I’ve even borne witness to it many times personally
Fascinated to hear all the times you watched someone else wash their dick
not when you’re making claims about everyone everywhere
Yes. These are universal problems for the male population. And circumcision is one solution so popular and so common that it’s practiced the world over.
you were the one who initially made such claims
I assure you that I’m not the first person to suggest the benefits of circumcision.
OK kid come back when you have some actual evidence to back up your claims, lol
Your anecdotal claims amount to a pile of nothing but personal preference in Internet story time. And while you are perfectly welcome to your personal opinions, you are not entitled to spread claims of “truth“ without backing it up with actual evidence from trusted sources.
Your anecdotal claims amount to a pile of nothing.
Tell it to the guy with infected penis skin.
It’s highly relevant, since parents are the ultimate arbiters of their childrens’ health and well-being.
Precisely. Parents should protect their children from genital mutilation.
EDIT: also, parents are NOT the ultimate arbiters. Judges and social services are, and can and should remove children subject to genital mutilation.
And, unfortunately, for decades, particularly in the United States, parents were misled with medical misinformation that told them it was medically necessary (or “recommended”) to circumcise their babies. Thankfully, that is no longer the case. Unfortunately, it is still culturally reinforced, although that is fortunately fading.
But it will likely be several more decades before that misinformation and cultural force finally fades completely.
It has no discernible impact either of our lives,
Then why would you chop it off?
Just for starters, you’re not “chopping” anything.
Past that, again, it’s for a marginal benefit in hygiene.
You should probably cut your earlobes off too then, you don’t really need them and it’s possible they could get infected at some point in your life. And I’m sure you shave your and your children bald regularly, right? You don’t need hair and it removes the possibility of lice which can carry blood-born diseases.
I think you’ve got a very weak argument for it. It seems sensible to me that elective procedures should have clear benefits to outweigh the corresponding risks of performing it; there are always risks with performing medical procedures.
And w.r.t. you comment on no chopping — it’s a piece of skin that is attached to a human body, it doesn’t just fall off by itself. You do have to cut it. Choppy choppy.
I’m uncircumcised and my son is uncircumcised. Really goes a long way on understanding how to deal with a normal uncircumcised penis. Cleaning it doesn’t take any extra effort.
Unfortunately for you the information on how to care for a normal uncircumcised penis on a younger child is not easily available because of the expectation that all American children are circumcised.
You are not supposed to retract the foreskin until later in life. When? Well it’s different for everyone but can be as late as age 10 or more. Until that time it’s “self-cleaning” just wash the outside. Tell the kid to keep trying to gently retract it when he pees or baths, if it doesn’t pull back easily it’s not ready.
You don’t need to get soap up in there until it starts retracting on it own, the skin begins to naturally separate. If you force it, you can cause scaring and damage, you’re literally ripping the skin from the glans. Once it retracts, pull the foreskin back wash the glans and ta dah… clean dick.
It’s made out to be this big inconvenience and believed by men with their foreskin removed. It’s not at all an inconvenience. You also don’t have any idea what your missing out on by having a circumcised penis.
Anyway thought I’d share before you mess up your kids dick. Lot of doctors I’ve talked to I had to correct on the proper way to take care of an uncircumcised child’s penis, it’s very unsettling and you might have got incorrect information yourself.
Lucky for me a have the proper equipment to know what I was talking about.
here are some marginal benefits to health and safety, particularly wrt transmission of STDs.
Bullshit.
Yeah, I believe the STD myth has been debunked
You know we’re on the internet and you can just look stuff up instead of making it up.
you aren’t supposed to use soap on genitals
Maybe you don’t lose an inch of penis length, but perhaps you do lose an inch of skin.
But I agree this is stupid because 99.99% of people are going to think “penis length.”
This is perhaps the dumbest circumcision awareness sign I’ve seen. And I support the cause.
Kinda fucked up how people basically ignore the fact that we do genital mutilation in America.
Not having kids, but it was done to me and I’m fine with it.
I’ve been in a relationship for ages now, but before that all the womem I asked said that preferred cut over uncut. Literally. All. Of. Them. It was at least a dozen.
But hey, don’t let me disrupt this whole… Uhh… Thing you guys got going on this thread.
The mistake in all of this discussion is making those who are circumsized feel ashamed about it at all. No one should feel bad about being circumsized.
Now that that’s out of way, that’s a pretty weak counterargument. Your justification for why we should keep doing it is that society prefers it? That’s exactly the thing that’s finally being pushed back against. It’s inherently a barbaric practice that serves no medical purpose (for the large majority) and is purely aesthetic, and we’re doing it to newborn babies so they can look like their daddies and keep the social norm alive.
You don’t have anything to feel bad about and it’s great that it hasn’t been a hindrance for you, but as soon as one generation stops, your argument will be moot.
The only shaming I’ve seen in this thread so far is of the parents who made that decision, and rightly so. People like the guy you replied to are perpetuating the issue by being so nonchalant about it.
Men in many African countries also overwhelmingly prefer their women cut. Coincidence?
You’re obviously American, as were the women
It’s ok, we in the civilised world already think you’re stupid, your attitude towards mutilating the dicks of little boys is just another reason why we do.
Literally no thoughtful or reasonable sexual partner is going to say they prefer the type of penis it’s impossible for you to have, so that data is wildly biased.
I’m a woman and I’ve been with both. I don’t really care either way (and I feel confident most women who have actually been with both don’t really care) but my best lasting lover by far was uncut. I will not circumcise any sons I have.
Also in America cut is so normal that people may prefer it because they’re used to it.
But also, it’s fucking wild to argue to cut a piece off your baby’s genitals because of what future partners may mildly prefer. I wasn’t circumcised because my mom was firmly against the practice and I’m grateful for that.
And to add my anecdotes, back when I had a dick the foreskin never got in the way of me getting laid, and one ex was super excited to learn I had it.
Yes, because that’s what they’re used to. That’s not nothing. But in Australia I’ve had the opposite experience. Every single one saying they prefer uncut. It’s just what you’re exposed to.
People prefer what’s familiar, in cultures where it’s not the norm they prefer uncut.
If you are fine with being circumcised, that seems like the best possible outcome and I’m glad you are happy with your body in that way. However, many people were circumcised and are not fine with it. After all, it is a choice made for them without their consent. Also, it shouldn’t matter what women prefer. It should be your body, your choice. If someone wants to get circumcised later in life, that is their choice.
it’s wild to me how many let this one thing dominate their entire identity and rail against their parents for it.
Our parents are fallible. Its okay to point out the fucked up shit they did to us and say “this shit is fucked up”
yeah they should have beaten more kids so they wouldn’t have time to winge about this garbage
Really fucked up that if you call it genital mutilation or the sexual assault of a child people will push back against it and defend the act.
Nobody is ever going to take you seriously if you keep equating this to genital mutilation, which in common usage clearly and always refers to female genital mutilation which is so vastly different and more barbaric so as to render any kind of comparison immediately moot.
If you have to speak in hyperbole and melodramatics to make your point, you don’t have a point.
Calling unnecessary circumcision of boys “genital mutilation” sounds frivolous because it makes it sound like you’re placing it alongside FGM in terms of its effects and severity. But it is nevertheless genital mutilation, by just about any definition you care to put forward. The men living in the non-circumcision-crazed countries of the world aren’t constantly having their blackened rotten cocks drop off from all the dick disease they’re allegedly exposed to by having an intact penis, so I don’t understand why you would feel the need to do this to your kid without a specific medical reason (of which there are very few that require surgical removal of the skin).
“But if you don’t wash it, it gets dickcheese!” and the solution to that is slicing the fucking skin off of it? The clue is in the warning: wash it. Teach your sons to care for their wilberts. Telling them to lather up their bellend in the shower is hardly something that needs prompting anyway.
Personal/intimate hygiene should be part of regular schooling. Not even as part of sex ex, just “how to care for your vessel” kinda shit. Don’t drink to excess, walk and move at least 10 minutes a day, stay away from illegal drugs, be careful with prescription drugs, and wash your bastard stinksausage.
It’s interesting that the pro circumcision crowd who rant about hygiene don’t support girls having their labia cut off to prevent grime from accumulating between the folds. Circumcision should be reserved for actual medical reasons, like phimosis, and if possible at age of consent.
The “hygiene” argument just shows me how backwards Americans are
Have the stupid cunts not heard of soap?
As a young child I didn’t know I had to wash between my toes, and I got athletes foot.
If only a kind doctor had cut all my toes off when I was born.
You are meant to wash under the foreskin obviously but only with water. Soap is generally considered too harsh for that area
But obviously there are times one uses soap. It’s part inside, part outside. You have to keep outside out of inside.
More like everyone’s too socially awkward to want to discuss any form of hygiene directly. Kinda wild really.
If you don’t wash behind your ears, bacteria will grow and cause it to smell. By their logic, they should be chopping off ears as well.
The purpose of circumcision is to make maturation and sex less pleasurable as it removes about 1/3 of sensory nerves and meant to make it more difficult to masturbate because you can’t just pull on tight skin. You can still perform the basic acts of sex and masturbation, but it’s not as pleasurable. Likewise, one can still hear without ears even if it’s not as good as those with intact ears.
Just goes to show how insane these people are.
and if possible at age of consent.
While I agree with the majority of the argument, I don’t agree with this point. Age of consent is mainly a political thing, disregarding the actualities involved with teenagers and sexual life, and discrediting those who have problems before that set age.
Biologically, pubescence which is around 13 is where this decision should be undertaken, as this is the point where the individual is sexually mature.
Medical problems start before the age of consent so the individuals which are sexually mature should have the option to treat this condition.
As an American who wasn’t circumcised, this country is so fucking weird about it. Like I got teased for it occasionally. People talk about hygiene, but from what I hear you’re unlikely to find a guy who cleans his asshole but not his foreskin. Like, do what you want with your body, get circumcised if you want, bifurcate the thing if you want, I don’t even have a dick anymore, but circumcising babies is taking that freedom away from them for reasons that always sound ludicrous to me.
And for the attractiveness thing, I’ve had exes who think foreskin is really hot, and personally I think dicks look super weird without it.
There was an uncircumcised kid at my daycare we made fun of. We didn’t know why his was different than ours and thought HE was the weird one. Turns out no, it was our dumbass parents and the asshole doctors who did that to us that were the problem.
“But if you don’t wash it, it gets dickcheese!”
did you know that when you don’t wash your hands you get lot of dirt stuck behind your fingernails? i got an idea! maybe we should take a pair of pliers and take those off as well. does that sound reasonable? no? that’s exactly how this “argument” makes me feel. when you don’t wash it then it gets dirty so we’d better cut it off is some really dumb stuff…
stay away from illegal drugs
No, just be careful and make sure that you understand what you’re doing.
amab genital mutilation makes bottom surgery more complicated for transfems
yes it’s also immoral and shouldn’t be done on infants of any gender who can’t give consent (and should be illegal, as should intersex genital mutilation, aka “surgical correction”)
Huh, didn’t even occur to me there would be trans complications as well.
Yeah, though American bottom surgeons are so used to it they see the foreskin as making it easier rather than the lack of it making it more difficult. At least that’s how it was for my surgeon
What do you call a discount circumcision?
A ripoff.
Stop all infant genital mutilation.
Not just circumcision but also de-intersex-ification.
When a baby is born with both types of genitals what usually happens is that the male ones are immediately removed and the person is raised as a woman. This is unethical. The infant cannot consent to being mutilated, it is an infant. Ban this barbaric practice.
Best we can do is punishing adults doing stuff consentually. Its the consent that makes it unethical.
Its like 10 in² removed by circumcision. Not necessarily length or girth from your dick. But 10 in² of incredibly sensitive skin on your sex organ.
New imperial unit for area dropped.
The squinch
I can’t speak for everyone but I am an average sized uncut USian, and mine foreskin is pretty tight when erect to the point I think it might be painful if I was cut. I wonder if there’s anyone who got circumcised post puberty that can chime in.
Yes. Cut male here. For the first five or so years of my sexually active time, when I would get a particularly vigorous erection the skin below my glans would literally tear in random places around the circumference. It was quite painful but has thankfully stopped now and Im left with just some scars.
When my son was born I refused to let him out of my sight until every staff member was able to assure me he would not be circumcised.
Parents: do NOT circumcise your children, it’s barbaric.
I’m a grower and pretty big. When I got to puberty basically every erection was painful. It took a couple years for the skin to stretch so it didn’t hurt. If I ever have a child in this fucked up world I will kill someone before I let them mutilate my child the way I was.
Look up phimosis. It’s pretty common from my understanding but I had to get circumcised a few years back from it. Starts with a bit of tearing around the opening of the foreskin which will eventually turn into scar tissue. Then things start getting painful. You can make cranking your hog not painful, but sex and even just full erections were painful.
I do miss my little hooded member, sex doesnt feel the same way as it used to, and I don’t last as long in bed but hey… no more pain and split foreskins these days!
I remember the scrubs episode. Sorry you gotta go through that.
It’s actually decently common. Sorry you had to do it though.
I’ve never understood it, even for religious reasons. It’s not medically necessary, and it weakens your sex organ’s ability to do the thing it is supposed to do.
it weakens your sex organ’s ability to do the thing it is supposed to do.
I thought you didn’t understand?
Fair enough. But if that’s the point…why? You’d just be making it harder to reproduce at that point
Its no harder to reporduce, just doesn’t feel as good
It actually is medically necessary if the foreskin is too tight (phimosis). I had it done on the doctor’s recommendation and my sex life life greatly improved. But this was as an adult, so not really the same thing.
Yeah, but that’ super rare. Only around 0.6% of boys experience it before they’re 15. Even if you’re born with true pathological phimosis, circumcision is usually a last resort because topical steroids are safer and have a pretty high success rate.
“The incidence of pathological phimosis is 0.4 per 1000 boys per year or 0.6% of boys are affected by their 15th birthday.”
penis != boy
better terminology could be used.
If we were talking about adults yeah, but the study is mentioning 14 year old boys…
In this context age is not relevant as I am using the “synonym of man” definition of “boy”
I am talking about the fact that there are non-boys with penises (Such as myself, I am AMAB agender) and boys without penises.
There are better terms that could be used here. In this particular case, for example:
“The incidence of pathological phimosis is 0.4 per 1000 boys per year or 0.6% of boys are affected by their 15th birthday.”
“The incidence of pathological phimosis is, counting only people who have penises, 0.4 per 1000 people per year; 0.6% are affected by their 15th birthday.”
Less concise but accuracy>conciseness in this context
You’re right. My bad
For cultural reasons, it probably developed as a valuable tribal in-grouping check.
How do we know for sure you are one of us and not a spy or an infiltrator… Well, if you are an ancient Tribal Jewish person you have a special trick to prove you are in the group.
Please send a dick pic to verify allegiance
What do they want, a refund?
To stop the cultural practice of male genital mutilation and break the norms that doom their sons?
Full respect if you were speaking sarcastically
Oh 100% sarcastic.
I agree genital mutilation that is not medically necessary is bad. They just could have made the point/their aim clearer.
They just could have made the point/their aim clearer.
I appreciate the attempt to still make a pun, even after getting a bit of a smack
I honestly wasn’t trying to be punny, that’s just how it came out. But I’ll take it.
With interest.
Gimme that fiveskin.
Could’ve at least saved it for a little foreskin calamari is all.
Half off
At the very least they’d like their tip back.
Foreskins are sold for use in beauty treatments and skin grafts for burns, would be nice to get the cash value back just on the principle of it even if it wasn’t that much.
religion is a poison
oh hi vanta 👋 :)
And culture to a point. My family is from India and places more importance on social standing and “what others think” than personal freedom or happiness. That’s why I never have plans to tell my parents I’m gay. I see my uncles and aunts refuse to accept that their kids married non-Indians. I can only imagine how my parents would react to being a gay man.
I feel like people who have children then discard them should be hanged.
And culture
And conservatism, I say.
Shit
(Did I follow the instructions in the title correctly?)
Nah you capitalized it
No one said post it after typing…
I want my foreskin back. I’m thinking about restoring mine.
from all of the research I’ve done into the matter, it’s a huge amount of work/effort for not much of a payoff. there are a lot of options/paths to go down, and - admittedly - it’s been almost a 15 years since I really looked into it, so there may have been some worthwhile advances since then, but, given the state of things at the time, I doubt it.
but I don’t mean to discourage you, and what I might have deemed “worth it” or not, you might feel differently. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ve mostly restored mine and am very happy with it that way, took years although I would get lazy and take breaks often. Not the same as never having done it but definitely glad I put the effort in. Nice to be able to go all day with it covered and it does improve sensitivity and function in a lot of ways. I was happy with my penis before too, just wanted to get the most out of it.
One of the reddit communities I miss is foreskin restoration, got quite a few good tips there. Maybe something like that could happen here.
quite a few good tips there
o_o
What method did you use to restore it if I may ask?
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I don’t mean to discourage you
hey, if you chose the path of restoration, I intend nothing but support. I apologize if you felt that I intended anything else. I misspoke!
Oh no offense taken, to each their own. I just didn’t want casual readers to think the process is harder than it actually is or that it doesn’t produce worthwhile results. I’m as surprised as anyone, who’d have thought something like that could be somewhat reversed!
We will never get the nerves back. It’s not just a lump of unfeeling skin that covers the glans. That’s what stops me from trying. Like yeah I can stretch it to cover the glans when it’s soft but I will never get the sensation back. That was stolen from me by people who were meant to care for me, and I will always have the scars.
Not true. Foreskin restoration uses a natural skin growth process called mitosis. Same thing that happens when people put on weight, or muscle, or get pregnant. Their skin doesn’t get stretched thin and have less nerves relative to the area it covers. You do grow new nerves, and not just generic nerves, but nerves relative to the neighboring skin - so in the penis’s case, the erotic kind.
I used to have just a little dot of sensitive frenulum, but after restoring a couple years it’s around 1.5 CM long and this is a huge sensitivity boost for me. I don’t want to oversell it, my penis was pretty great before, but I feel like I’m still not used to the improvement and will continue the annoying restoration process for these little gains gladly
Hedwig approves. His inch is still very angry.
upvote for the reference
I once met John Cameron Mitchell in a bar in the East Village in 2009. Total sweetheart.
that’s awesome!
I remember, trying to be friendly, I offered to buy him a shot or a drink or something, and the bartended (who was also quite a character) was very offended that he would ever charge “Johnny” for a drink in the first place, lol. we had a good laugh and round of shots about it :)
I could not, would not, with a mohel
Would not, should not, with hot oil
shit
