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    Jenner noted that the policy could affect her ability to vote, adding that she did not believe the policy was “really thought out, what this means.”

    Oh, no, it was thought out: demonize and literally cast out trans people, removing their ability to work, move away, or be vocal in support of themselves. Then you move them into camps, either for “their protection” or to “protect society from them”.

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      My favorite part is:

      “I don’t blame President Trump. I love him.”

      Their supreme leader can do not wrong.

      Totally not a cult, though.

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        She described having the sex marker M on her passport as a “big problem,” adding: “I don’t blame President Trump. I love him.” Jenner said she appealed to him for help but received no response. Then the iron door to the gas chamber was slammed shut and locked from the outside. No further comment from Jenner has been forthcoming since.

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        Hi Caitlyn! I do believe your supreme leader wants people like you to vanish, by shutting up, by being invisible or why not by dying.

        I would normally say don’t submit to any of that, you have our support. But in your case out of loyalty, maybe you should shut up, find a spot to lay low, and become invisible. You see I’m much nicer to you than him: I do NOT wish you to die!

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      The policy was not really thought out?

      It was exactly what Trump and his Heritage buddies wanted. Guess the one who didn’t really think things through is one Caitlyn Jenner.

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        She thought she was one of the “good ones” who wouldn’t be affected. I guess the problem with focusing so much on sports instead of education is that you never heard of Himmler’s “one good Jew” speech. Which was essentially that everyone knew “one good Jew” that they would save but if they did that, almost every Jewish person in the country would be saved, so there would be no exceptions for “good” Jewish people. [Excluding, of course, Hitler’s mother’s Jewish doctor, who Hitler ordered the Gestapo to protect, and whom Hitler eventually helped emigrate to the US, along with all his personal wealth.]

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      The only policy not really thought out was her policy of blind loyalty towards someone who would dehumanize her to whatever extend possible, and when those were exhausted invent new ways to do so.

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    I’m a trans woman living abroad. I’m in the middle of reviving my documents from my birth country because my US passport is about to expire but I can’t renew it. It has caused a ton of stress as you’d Imagine. I’m grateful I have a second country to fall back on, but a lot of people in the same position don’t, and it’s absolutely terrifying and a human rights violation.

    All just to say, on behalf of the trans community, choke on a gangrenous dick Caitlyn

    Bonus: Kudos to my Central American birth country for understanding and being massively helpful after 30 years away

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      My trans sister from abroad is in the process of getting her passport from her other citizenship and they only recognize her ghost identity. But it is better than the rights currently afforded under USA law so we’re getting her protected.

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      Thailand is my favorite place for trans culture (aside from bro exploitation behavior from tourist). I love that Thai people just do not care or judge, it’s just a normal thing.

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          I recommend it! Thai people are super direct about things and not very sensitive so it might be a little weird at first. For example, a Thai person will call their friend fat to their face if they’re overweight in friendly banter and it’s acceptable because that person is actually fat and they know it and laugh along with their friend. It’s why the term “lady boy” isn’t a perjorative there. For Thai people it’s just someone who is trans and hasn’t had any operations. They call themselves that loudly and proudly and if you don’t like it then fuck you is basically the give. I love it and they were some of the most fun people I’ve met.

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    “I haven’t heard from him,” she said. “He’s kind of busy right now. My gender marker is not big on the issue. OK. So I get that, and I’m not blaming him whatsoever. I love the guy, and I love what he’s doing.”

    Take a stance or STFU. If you love it, then STFU and take it like a beta. It’s what you want.

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      I love the guy, and I love what he’s doing.

      What exactly is it she thinks Trump is doing so well? Trump genuinely has done nothing good, right?

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        Trump genuinely has done nothing good, right?

        Everything he’s done has been good . . . for the rich. Overwhelmingly cut taxes for the top? Good for the rich.

        Overwhelmingly print money? Good for the rich.

        Decimate the communities of the poor? Good for the rich.

        Hike up gas prices? Good for the rich.

        Scapegoat a vulnerable population when people were starting to realize how caustic the Epstein class is? Good for the rich.

        Killing off infrastructure and mass-transit projects? Good for the rich.

        Spying on and setting up a massive database on the general population? Good for the rich.

        Leaking all the government’s personally identifiable information on its population to Musk via DOGE? Good for the rich.

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    I remember being a kid and for a while Jenner was literally The American. The athlete on the cereal box, on the TV, in the news.

    Don’t give in to the hate, people. Associate yourself with the polity that embraces a diverse, pluralistic democracy and who value science over faith. Else the leopards eat your face.

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      True story: Bruce Jenner was an active race car driver in the 90s. The series he participated in was the Trans Am series.

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        I understand that your comment relies on the understanding that Caitlyn Jenner’s deadname is Bruce Jenner, that the joke is that she participated in a racing series that’s nearly “Am Trans”, and that she went by Bruce when she was actively racing.

        To avoid deadnaming, I’d still ask that you use language like “Caitlyn Jenner (formerly Bruce Jenner) was […]” and “The series she participated in […]” (or something similar). I totally get that none of your comment was meant as transphobia; I even used to think that “historical deadnaming” was the best way to write to avoid confusion, so I sympathize. I eventually realized, though, as e.g. on Wikipedia’s article for Elliot Page, that using their real gender and their chosen name historically is not confusing and is just more accurate to how being transgender actually works – i.e. that it’s not a decision somebody makes one day.

        I don’t think it’s severe enough to rub up against Lemmy.World Terms of Service Rule 1.2 as “discrimination against queer groups”, so this is just a polite request and hopefully food for thought.

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        The series he participated in was the Trans Am series.

        This better not awaken something in them

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            Serious question here. If someone was well known as a previous name and sex, is it still deadnaming to refer to them that was in a historical context? They’re a perfect example here. If looking for historical information on their racing history and articles, you have to refer to them as Bruce.

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              IMO, best practice is still to use the current name/pronouns. I think it’s OK to say something like “Caitlyn, formerly known as Bruce” if clarity is needed and then proceed with current name going forward. In this instance, everyone knew who we were talking about so it was unnecessary.

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              My personal take: If I’m synthesizing historical information and recounting it in the current day, I would use their current name and pronouns. The person they are today (or died as) still did those things. It also gives space to recognize that, although they might not gave had the opportunity to be out as a trans person during those achievements, doesn’t mean they didn’t feel trans back then.

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            They didn’t. Jenner went by Bruce and their gender identity was male at the time.

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              In 2020 I was recalling a story about wanting to be them as a kid because of the Wheaties box and deadnamed them and people got really really mad at me. I had absolutely no idea they were the same person as Caitlyn Jenner, never seen or knew anything about the Kardashian’s and had no idea they didn’t just fall off and disappear completely

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                Like you, I am almost completely unaware of anything said or done by the Kardashians, and I love that for both of us.

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      There are plenty of recent pictures of her at Mar-a-lago. She’s not just a supporter, she’s someone that has been to his parties