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    There are so many things you can do with a partner that don’t cost money and will make permanent memories.

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        Or you know, going grocery shopping and making dinner at home.

        It’s still gonna cost $200 but you’ll be set for a few days at least.

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      Yeah but on the first dates you gotta try to impress a little right, don’t want to come off as too poor or cheap (depending on circumstances, 2 students in exact same situation is different than older working adults, for example)

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        This feels like a capitalistic idea to convince people thay they need to spend money to find a partner or people to be with. Dating can have many forms and you can get to know people in many different places. You don’t have to spend a lot of money to talk to people in hobby groups or go take a walk/drink a coffee with someone

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          Plus a shared interest is a great start to a potential relationship. If you have nothing in common, how can you expect to get along well with each other.

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        Nah, coffee date. No pressure, easy to hear each other, easy to split bill and easy to leave if it’s not going well.

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          Yep coffee date first, dinner date second if the coffee date goes well.

          There are other fun things you can do on a first date that don’t cost money too.

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            This

            Impress your date with your creativity and passions.

            • Lay on a rock and find constellations
            • Walking tour of city
            • Explore college campus
            • Attend an inexpensive Community players’ theatre
            • Free concert in the park
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    Why is anyone spending that much on a date? FFS, you can find plenty of great, cheap eats in NYC. You just gotta look. Husband and I routinely go into Boston to dine and have never broken 65 bucks for food.

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      Husband

      Well yeah, you’re not it

      Why do peacocks have such ridiculously inefficient feathers? Bird tail feathers can be as little as 1 inch long.

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        If someone expects me to pay a massive amount of money on a first date, that woild be a dealbreaker for me. Why should I reinforce any traditional gender roles in a crumbling capitalistic society

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            I know, but it seems short sighted to me to accept only a single possibility for dating which involves spending a lot of money

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              Straight up I went on a drinks to check how we vibe date last week, super simple, 5 beers total, two orders of wings as apps(so 12 wings), $80 before tipping $20. Not to mention the haircut I could’ve put off had I not had a date which was $60, and the gas I used getting there $5. Even if I tipped my personal minimum for a server at 20% that’s over $100. I don’t mind paying for a first date because it’s every woman is potentially putting their life on the line by meeting a man they don’t know alone for however long it lasts, but I used to could plan 2-3 first dates over a week, spend less, and get more food and drink.

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            Bingo. It’s the ones stuck in the gender and conformity roles getting plucked the hardest.

            Nuts to that.

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        No, I’m not it but I am a representative of what the successful gambit can result in.

        You represent men looking to find a steadfast friend that can become a partner for your life, yes?

        The “game” as it is being played is screwing you. (if I am correct about what I’m reading that others in this thread have written) What you don’t see, is that you have time on your side in a way that women do not.

        (Truthfully, most men get so much tastier as they head towards 40… you’ll find out in time…)

        Some golddigger insists on you dropping hundreds of dollars for a date? No. Refuse that. Any relationship with a woman like that won’t last anyhow.

        Don’t waste your time or mental energy.

        These are the EXACT women that will end up desperate cougars panicking as their biological clocks and looks tick down. You don’t want the women that peaked in high school. Hig maintenance, high bullshit, high drama. Nuts to that. It’s not a game, it’s a lifelong partnership you are looking for. You will end up a plucked (henpecked) bird if you don’t refuse to play it…

        I thank my own rank stubbornness that the whole web2.0 social media horseshit had passed me by. No insta, fb, tiktok, threads, twatter… so I’ve missed most of that poison (not that I’d do much more than make fun of it…) and have missed the toxicity that it spews.

        Save your money and energy for someone that will step up to being your partner in life (and a bit of fun crime).

        No plucked birds, thankyouverymuch.

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          I’m married to a woman I fell for when we were 13 in the 90s. Every expensive date I’ve ever been on has been for my benefit too.

          Other people have different priorities and are made happy or secure by different things. As long as it’s all consensual and not harmful, horses for courses. It’s not that deep

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      Fr, 200$?? like WTF?? For 200$ you can just find yourself a good expensive hooker and you save yourself the time and effor LOL But to be real, just maybe, dont go out with random golddiggers and basic girls. Personally, if its not a 50/50 or each one pays their stuff; its a red flag. And you can easily spot if its gonna be that or not from the tinder profile pic lol

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      I can’t imagine how this is true. Must be no drink, no apps, no dessert, and mindful choices on entrees. Because just an entree at a regular ( not fancy) place in my town is 24-32 bucks and that’s not for the nicest dish. A drink is 8 to 25 bucks depending on whether it’s a cocktail. Yeah, your spouse is fine with a quick meal with no add ons, but for a date, where the point is to kill time together, relax and get to know each other, lingering over a dessert and having a drink or two to loosen up is kind of the point.

      Obviously you can agree that your first date should be going out to get coffee to see if you click, but that’s still going to be 50 bucks after two to four drinks and a couple of scones.

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        Yes… and no.

        I’m going on my 41st year with the husband, and thinking back to when we first met, and started hanging out together and dating… It was never about the money. We packed lunches and went on picnics, took road trips and went hiking and only occasionally went out to eat. The first time we met, we were in a bar, and struck up a conversation. We’d hang out with mutual friends and chill playing frisbee or catch at the local park. (We both still have the gloves we got as kids in high school!)

        In the long run, it’s not about how much money you can spend trying to impress each other, or having a good time be defind by an experience created by or bought from other people… It’s about how much time you want to spend together, it’s about having conversations, and when those moments you have suddenly not go the way you planned, you roll with it and find a way together, to make it work and have fun regardless.

        Best time we had was on a trip into Boston to go to the museum… Got stuck in traffic behind a road accident and sat for an hour, joking with each other and laughing at everyone else also stuck in traffic having freakouts over it. Him mangling the lyrics to songs on the radio and throwing out terrible bad dad jokes and puns. That was the moment I realized this guy sitting next to me was a keeper.

        If you like each other and are easy in that company, it’s not going to matter if you’re in a fancy restaurant or not… and at that point why waste the money?

        What I’ve found that makes a relationship into a lifelong adventure aren’t the things that can be bought, they’re the moments that are unexpected and personally yours.

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          You’re looking at this through the wrong lens. People aren’t spending money trying to impress someone, they’re spending money because that’s what the world has become. Every single one of those that you mentioned still costs money and everything has gotten more expensive.

          Edit: Plus, I believe when articles and stuff talk about this, they’re specifically talking about going out to a restaurant or something similar like the movies, etc.

          Third spaces have been increasingly monetized and monopolized in the past 2 or 3 decades, and CoL has added pressure on top of that. Boston is lucky because it’s an old city with some great parks and avoids some of the issues that modern cities have (and that’s not to mention the problems outside of cities). If you want to see what a modern US city is like, go down to the seaport - you know, the part of Boston that everybody hates that basically has nothing going on unless you’re spending money. According to this article, 100 million people in the US - including 28 million children - do not have access to close-to-home parks. That’s almost a third of the US who have to spend money just to touch some grass. And gas is closing in on $5 a gallon, so forget those road trips. Even the MFA is $60 for tickets for two. Burgers are about $20 each now, and drinks are even more. Just a cheap meal can run you up to $100 very quickly.

          Regardless of what you’re doing, if you’re meeting somebody in a third space it’s getting hard not to spend a fair chunk of change, and even “cheaper” options are still just that - cheaper by comparison. For every date night someone is having at home, someone else is buying $300 concert tickets.

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            …that’s what the world has become…

            No, that is what you’re letting the world become. Don’t passively accept any social conformity - esp. when it demands larger and larger amounts of capital.

            You let it get this way when you accept it as such. I’ve never made much money, (nor has the spouse) never saw spending money as an option to coincide with dating, (and no, I was not coming from the obnoxious angle that the man has to pay…) so when I started hanging out with the person I eventually would marry, there was no notion that a date involved anything other than hanging out.

            Window shopping, coffee and conversation… hell bring a thermos with your own coffee and pack a meal.

            (at this point, neither of us drinks alcohol - I was putting out the recycling back in 2009, and saw the beer bottles and cans and had the epiphany that it was an awful lot of money spent on something that did me no good whatsoever. Naah, fuck that shit. Done. A moment of revelation that my husband latched on to after yet another one of his friends drank themselves to death a handful of years ago… when you hit your 50’s and start to lose friends to booze… it’s an eye opener - red warning flags - for sure…)

            I guess what I’m seeing in what you’re saying is that there is some informally formal rules for dating that involve spending ever larger amounts of cash… and that what I have found, in finding that perfect person, was that there are no rules to the dance.

            If how everyone “dates” has become a cash grab based on expectations of what you’re “supposed” to like to do… Naah. Push back on that. Honestly you do not have to follow any path laid down before you. It’s up to you to change the dance steps.

            Step outside the box. You have way more agency than you realize.

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          That’s all very lovely but I think you’re missing the point of what I’m trying to say.

          I’m not saying anyone is dropping loads of money to impress anyone, I’m saying going out in most any context costs loads of money without even being “impressive”.

          Obviously a hike and a picnic is a great date! But it’s reckless and irresponsible as a first date. You could end up murdered. For a first date you’re likely meeting in a public place. Heck, even in your own example your first date was in a bar, which now a days is a dozens of dollars experience for just a few drinks, much more if you’re buying for two or it’s a nice bar, or if there’s any food involved.

          I’m saying even for frugal people (hell, my husband and I first got to talking in a thrift store through a mutual friend!) dating is expensive, and it’s not about preferences, it’s just that eating out at all or even just drinks or coffee not at home is very pricey.

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            …Heck, even in your own example your first date was in a bar, which now a days is a dozens of dollars experience for just a few drinks…

            Pro tip for anyone still reading this far down into the thread: If you’ve a hotel - like a Sheraton, Hilton or any higher-end lodging… Check out their lounge. The cheapest drinks in the city I live in are at the hotels - they generally will price cocktails 35 to 50% lower than the bars and clubs in the area, simply to catch a little bit of the cocktails action… (also the hotels all have beautiful lounges)

            Last time I went to New Orleans I stayed in a hotel on the edge of the French Quarter and drank for one fifth of the price that the drinks outside cost. Got good and oiled THEN headed out to hear live music.

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              In my town the cheapest drinks are at the casino. They want you drunk, and they want your money in the slots

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                LOL! Yup.

                I went gambling ONCE, with my grandparents who loved to go to Foxwoods. Played the slots, lost 20 bucks in a few minutes and got ZERO frisson from it.

                Am like “People get a charge from this…?” as I was sitting there watching the others in the aisle poke the spin button on the machines they were playing, like they were robots…

                I had more fun the rest of the afternoon playing video games in the arcade. It took me a LOT longer to go through 20 bucks there.

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    Hear Me Out: This capitalist/traditional attitude towards dating radicalized men into the manosphere. For the last three years this anti-“modern women”/anti-feminism movement has been rising across the internet; and about 75% of their resentment is just about distaste toward dating apps and paying to take a girl out for dinner.

    For years I was laughing at ( and then after they helped Trump’s re-election, ripping my hair out over ) their complete refusal/inability to see any other alternatives to connect with people besides the most shallow idea of a date. Perhaps these folks just completely unimaginative, or have no personality to offer, and nothing to provide besides the traditional chivalry of this generic “provider” fallback that is unfeasible for most in this economy.

    I wish I could just sit down with one of these men, and just ask them “Why not find women elsewhere?”. Delete the dating apps and go find a hobby, join a volunteer organization. If you’re such a “traditional conservative masculine man”, go to a Catholic church or alt-right fascist rally. It’s a whole lot cheaper than flying abroad to sugar-daddy at a favorable exchange rate. (Passport bros)

    Though… the article does say: “More than half of Gen Z adults reported spending $0 a month on dating in a 2025 Bank of America Better Money Habits survey.” and mentions folks rejecting dating apps because they prefer real interactions…so maybe folks are waking up.

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      Why not find women elsewhere?

      This is the same vibe as “go hand out your resume in person”. I’m old enough to remember when most people didn’t have dial up. Things have changed.

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        I’m an elder millennial that has and continues to do all of this shit they are saying in other comments, I still meet more new people regularly that I actually want to talk to again through dating apps. Third spaces are dead and people have over the past 10ish years stopped being interested in expanding their circle by happenstance. I’ll even admit to this myself.

        In general we don’t trust each other, and there’s a very real chance that any person you meet could be a fascist even in left leaning cities. This has understandably made women especially more leery of the men they meet even when men are explicitly feminist because the men that hate women lie about their beliefs exacerbating the underlying problems even more.

        People don’t understand that we’re not just experiencing political and economic collapse, the culture we all grew up learning how to live in no longer exists. This is a symptom of that

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        He gave a couple good ideas, join a service group, take Salsa lessons, go to local events. There’s a tree planting event in my community this week. You won’t meet people if you go once, but if you keep going people will recognize you. This is called “making friends” and sometimes that leads to romance. Things in your community still happen like the olden days.

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          Sounds like you have some experience here. Would you like to share more about it? How long have you been doing this? How many dates has this resulted in? How many relationships?

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            Well, I’m married so it worked at some point. I’m involved with my community and the community is your dating pool. The other guy is right in a sense, it’s mainly coupled people you meet at events but the more people you meet the more people meet you. You have to make friends before you make lovers. My wife and I have absolutely tried setting up people we’ve met with people we know. My personal opinion is that people who “never meet anyone” are probably assholes and people steer clear of them.

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              Okay well you didn’t answer any of my questions.

              Well, I’m married so it worked at some point.

              How long ago was that?

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        Things have changed especially because we all are becoming less social. Getting to know someone in person is still much more effective. Talking to strangers without pretense is however less accepted.

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        But it doesn’t though. Dating is something you do to find people to be with IRL. Dating apps are made to keep you engaged and noy to lose customers. If you want to find someone to be with IRL, you gotta look IRL and it helps going somewhere, where people have similar interests

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      I’m not an expert on manosphere but I think it’s just a radical manifestation of a broader anti-feminism movement that spans beyond the internet, beyond young people and beyond dating. It’s not attitudes towards dating that radicalized men but a more general feeling of losing power and privileges. Listen to conservative men of all ages and they will complain that you can’t molest women anymore, you can’t date rape and you have to very careful because people now tend to believe women when they accuse of you of abuse. The manospere is just how the push back against those changes manifests on the internet. In real life it’s one of the issues fueling the surge of far-right parties.

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        Dating has been a big gateway for the manosphere though. Women can actually support themselves now, on a large scale, even to the point where women are surpassing men in education and getting better paying jobs out of school than many men are getting.

        So, in a real sense, for possibly the first time in history, men are actually having to be more than just a stable provider to attract women. And many are choosing to become bitter and resentful instead of doing things that might actually improve their chances. The manosphere offers a “lose 15 lbs in 3 days fraud diet” but for dating. And people look for shortcuts constantly.

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          I generally agree but you think dating means asking women out and trying to prove to her you would be a good life partner while for a lot of man dating meant getting some girl drunk and fucking her in the dorm bedroom or spiking her drink at a club and fucking her in a bathroom stall. This is the dating they have lost because of feminism and progress and now want to get back to.

          Remember Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearing and Micheal Wolff’s accusations? Kavanaugh tried to rape her and absolutely nothing happened to him. This is the power man used to have and now are trying to get back. The manosphere sect leaders can’t say it out loud but it’s the core of it and all the anti-feminist movements.

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            Reading these last three comments — I was taking “dating” to mean forming a stable relationship because they’ve been throwing out words like “stability” and whine about divorce; but you’re probably right. The “GamerGate” rage that funneled into the manosphere has very rapey vibes, and that’s about fictional video game women. Seeing the rise in misogyny-inspired attacks; increased joking about rape and abuse; and that online rape guide CNN did a report on… I’m very scared for our future, especially for the future of feminine Gen Z and Gen Alpha folks.

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      Capitalism did ruin dating. I’m pretty sure the CIA does everything in it’s power to prevent you from seeing the problem is the fact that you depend on the market for everything.

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        I’ve been online for a loooong time. From my recollection: it hit its peak with the “anti-SJW” / “anti-feminist” rage during GamerGate in the mid 2010s. It was well on the decline until Andrew Tate and the TikTok manosphere accounts which copied him brought that rhetoric back; now targeting real world women instead of “woke” gamedevs and script writers.

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    Then stop going out for dates. Who convinced you that capitalism has to be a third wheel on your dates? Y’all too dependent on market capitalism to provide for you.

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      Where are they gonna go? We destroyed most of our third places, or made them so expensive to extract maximum profits.

      Dinner is expensive, movies are expensive, small friendly local shops have been disappearing in favor of sterile corporate ones.

      For a lot of people the only option would then be a home, which doesn’t work great for a lot of reasons.

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        I legitimately forgot how bad it is in America. I’m like why don’t you take the train to somewhere for a nice walk? I forgot you guys can’t really do those things with your infrastructure.

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        My first date with my husband, we went for a walk at a park…

        Edit: whoever replied I have you blocked already, so have fun, I cant see your comments.

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          Yeah, my partner of 10+ years went on multiple dates to museums, parks, and botanic gardens in the first month. We ate delicious Mexican food after, all super cheap.

          This was great because now it’s a tradition for us to go to museums on every vacation.

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        Non-matinee theater prices aren’t that bad. Just don’t load up on giant ass overpriced popcorn and sodas.

        Coffee dates are a thing. They’re expensive for coffee, but if you break a hundred at a coffee shop, you’re probably going to the hospital.

        Public parks exists. Ice skating rinks aren’t that expensive. Book stores.

        Ice cream!

        Pizza places have somehow stayed inexpensive.

        Hell, the gold standard first date: getting a beer at a bar is not that expensive, still.

        If your only idea for a date is a high end fancy ass multi course dinner, with cocktails, then yeah, you’re gonna have issues…

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          getting a beer at a bar is not that expensive, still.

          Where the hell do you live that you can claim this? Your pizza comment was also kind of funny as most places near me are honestly pretty expensive. I guess you could go to Little Caesars or something lol

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        Be good company and time spent anywhere becomes worthwhile. It has to start somewhere or capitalism will continue to price us out of even the simplest of human experiences.

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      “Hey baby, why don’t you come upstairs so we can avoid the capitalist machine of going out?”

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    This article draws all the wrong conclusions from the design of the survey itself. That’s the average date expense, for all single people, to include:

    • Rich people who don’t mind paying more for dinners out.
    • People who have been dating a long time, on their later dates with someone they’re already steadily dating and/or fucking.
    • Other expenses of a date, to include hair and makeup and other styling.

    Digging into one of the surveys discussed in the article shows that the cost of a first date has climbed to $93.

    $93 is more in line with what I’d expect. And yes, that price tag can price a lot of people out of bringing someone they don’t know well yet on a formal sit down date.

    I went to look up the menu at the place where my wife and I had our first date, in an expensive city. If we ordered what we ordered that night, except with today’s prices, I think we would’ve spent about $30 on food, $50 on wine, and 30% on tax and tip for a total of about $105. We also split the tab. And that’s with someone who I had already met in person in a few places (friends of friends), had already established rapport over the phone, and already knew that we both loved the restaurant we were meeting at.

    Obviously we need more cheap/free third places in the mix. And our society would benefit from better income/wealth equality. But while we live in this current situation, people should be generally be ramping up in closeness before spending real money on dates in places they wouldn’t have otherwise gone to. I couldn’t imagine spending real money before getting to know someone at least enough to know whether I like them and enjoy being around them.

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    “wHy ArEn’T tHe YoUnGeR gEnErAtIoNs GeTtInG mArRiEd AnD hAvInG cHiLdReN??”

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    You shouldn’t spend any money on her until you’ve had sex, so she doesn’t feel pressure to put out after an expensive dinner. Ideally, she should put out before the date even begins, just to make her feel more secure.

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      This feels like the PUA equivalent of giving a dog a pill in peanut butter, you’re killing me XD

  • Relatively new to dating via apps as an elder millennial freed from a life time of monogamy. (Only been at it 6 months)

    Who are these people who want to go on a first date that involves being in a situation like a restaurant?

    Seems like with apps people skip the whole courting thing and jump straight in to something that should only be for once you get to know each other a bit better.

    For me, first meeting is a coffee or a drink at a well populated cafe or bar. Maybe a walk after somewhere busy in the city.

    Maybe I’m just old and out of touch.

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      No, you’re right. People don’t date for relationships, maybe some think they are, but really it’s just having a dinner experience and potentially getting laid and moving on.

      • The mainstream apps owned by match group as well as bumble appear to have a lot of people like you describe. I am sure there are decent people on there also, it’s just the signal to noise ratio sucks, as well as the whole gamified bullshit of the apps themselves. I uninstalled Tinder/hinge/bumble not long after trying them and I have no plans to return. I suspect people who would put up with the way tinder functions are the same people who would put up with forced ads on their phone and smart tv etc. I would not be a good fit for people like that.

        I’ve had a lot of success on less mainstream apps by simply being honest about what I’m looking for (ENM / casual ongoing) and have found many with the same views.

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          They’re decent people, they’re just falling into the trap of seeing an ad and thinking it can help them. Of course, the ads are just designed to extract as much cash as possible from you but that’s our culture i guess.

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      For me the getting to know you was chatting on the app, I chatted with my now fiance for a few weeks before we actually met up at a restaurant, I felt like I knew him well enough that a restaurant was fine

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    That’s a ridiculous amount of money to spend.

    Most of my first dates were like

    • walk to bar ($0) or subway ($3)
    • a drink for both ($10 - $30)
    • transit back ($0 or $3)

    Even two drinks wouldn’t probably break the $100 barrier.

    There are cheaper options, too. Coffee. Park walk and snacks. Free museums.

    I didn’t have much trouble meeting people on the same page.

    Edit: a full ass dinner date is a terrible idea for early dating. Don’t go on early dates you can’t quickly bail on.

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      Yeah, the article (perhaps intentionally, for clicks) misreads the underlying survey as being about first dates when it’s actually about all dates. Dates with someone you’re already fucking and sleeping over with is going to be a bit different to budget for, compared to first dates (which the second study they quote says is at around $93).

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        That’s an important detail. Clicking through, it says

        A first date in our study means one shared starter, two main courses and two cocktails. For each restaurant, we pulled the median starter, main and cocktail price from the menu. For each city, we took the median across all fully-priced restaurants.

        That’s extremely heavy for a first date. It’s a poor strategy for several reasons to go that hard the first time you’re meeting someone.

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      Most of my first dates were like

      walk to bar ($0) or subway ($3) a drink for both ($10 - $30) transit back ($0 or $3)

      Pack of condoms, $8.

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        As a real cheapskate, you should keep an eye out for places give them out for free. There’s an LGBT center near me with a giant basket for free, and a free clinic a longer walk away that gives them out and also does free STI tests.

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          The health clinic I go to has a jar of condoms in every single room I’ve been in so far. It’s pretty cool

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      Where do you live? Because in LA it’s extremely easy to break the $100 threshold for a single person to eat. That’s literally an appetizer, a main course, and a drink or two.

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        I live in DTLA now. I just spent less than $15 on a burger and a blueberry cider at Glory Burgers.

        I swear people have terrible financial skills.

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          Soooo you’re comparing a burger and beer place to somewhere you’d get appetizers at.

          I’m not talking about influencer type places to hang out at like Sur, I’m talking like fucking Wood Ranch, dude.

          Chain restaurant, a steak, an appetizer, and 2 beers is like 75 bucks, man. For a fucking chain restaurant.

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            I went to the Yard House at LA Live. Spent like $55 on a burger entree, beer and tip. Yes, people aren’t good with their money. Choose better.

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        Not in one of the most expensive places to live in the country, assuming it’s the same everywhere, that’s for sure!

        A family of 4 getting a meal, am appetizer, and two drinks each for the adults will break $100 at a decent place. I’m sure there’s much cheaper places near you as well. Not every meal needs to be 5 star.

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          You have no idea what you’re talking about, lol.

          Go look at the menu for a restaurant in LA called Wood Ranch. It’s a chain restaurant. If you’re not picking the most expensive thing each category, you’re looking at 75 dollars plus pre tip pre tax if you get what I mentioned.

          That’s nowhere near 5 star dining in LA. Lmao.

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      It’s all over the place right now.

      I can get a meal for wife and girls for $150 at BJs, including a couple of drinks, but when we start straying up it gets above $200 real quick.

      Fuck Doordash, I hadn’t used it in a while and we briefly considered it this weekend. Priced a meal for 5, from a local Mexican place, no booze, and it was $230.

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        Wow, I don’t know, like, some sort of, like, interconnected electronic information repository I can query?

        I can even find out the atomic weight of gold! Let me prepare my stack of punch cards and I’ll being them to the data center tonight. I hope I don’t drop them!

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    You go to a grocery store. Whoever has the larger bag steals drinks.

    You buy a baguette and whoever has the smaller purse steals cheese/hummus.

    You eat on a rooftop or golf course at one am, staring out over the city. Me im an analogue tumbler person, so the genders I can date are smoothe talkers and SDR users.

    How is dating expensive. With bus fare and dry cleaning for both your dresses its like 50$.

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    The last time I spent that much on a night out was my first anniversary, and we got way too drunk at the bar we got married at (not cheap but not expensive) and ordered two pizzas because we were hammered and their pizzas are amazing.

    Thank fuck I married a cheapass