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Lol if they had said that you can count your fingers then we’d have someone in here without arms saying how ableist the tweet was
saying
How dare you, some people are mute and can’t say! /j
Hard to write without fingers too. Doable but harder, very abelist again!!
Some people are in a coma. Just don’t do anything!
I’m able to do it if I’m half asleep. Problem is i get so excited at my ability to create anything I want in amazing detail that I wake back up
I can’t even hear cows in my head.
I’m curious about that part. Does that mean you also don’t get that weird thing where you hear like, people chattering/ music/ something falling down just before you fall asleep? Or are dreams/half-asleep hallucinations not affected by aphantasia?
you hear like, people chattering/ music/ something falling down just before you fall asleep?
What the hell are you on about??
Probably Hypnogogic hallucination, which is a normal and common transitional phase between wakefulness and sleep characterized by vivid hallucinations incorporating any or all senses.
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I have this too. Music, people, simulated falling, stuff like that right before I fall asleep. I always thought this was common?
Nope. I don’t think that’s common at all. Maybe the occasional monkey reflex where my body thinks I’m gonna fall off a tree and yanks me awake, but that’s it.
Never experienced it and never heard anyone else mention it before.
Yea if you’re possessed by a demon maybe /jk
Never had this. I either fall asleep and wake up later. Or I’m getting half-awake dreams before I fall asleep, where I’m not I’m still a bit in control at first, but then lose control. (I know I’m dreaming, I just can’t steer it)
I can remember these half-dreams, but not the real dreams later
Exploding Head Syndrome maybe? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome
Mayhaps
Wait, what? Is that something people experience?
… I think so? Never questioned it honestly, guess I’ll have to do some research now haha
edit: this website says they’re fiiiiine, although the auditory ones are rarer than visual and somatic ones. Somewhat related to Narcolepsy though, so I guess that’s another thing to mention when I get evaluated for that haha (getting on adhd meds somewhat fixed my daytime eepyness so I’ve been procrastinating on getting it checked out)
Auditory hallucinations aren’t as common as you seem to think haha. I have them too sometimes.
Or is it that auditory hallucinations are strongly associated (not clinically, just the way they are always talked about) with bad mental health problems like schizophrenia, which makes them taboo, so people choose not to talk about them, even to doctors?
I get auditory, gustatory, and olfactory hallucinations all the time, due to chronic headache and migraines. Wish I got visual ones too, just for the variety, but alas. I hate peanut butter so so much (my most common hallucination is the smell or taste of peanut butter). My auditory hallucinations aren’t usually voices talking, though, they tend to be cats meowing or chickens yelling, because that’s what I hear most frequently in my daily life, so that’s what I’m trained to listen for.
Wow that sounds like it sucks, though the cats and chickens is kinda funny :) I usually hallucinate loud noises like something falling or a door slamming or something.
The only thing I’d classify as that is “feeling” like I hear far-away inaudible voices.
I would like to know more
Apparently dreams aren’t necessarily affected by aphantasia.
I feel like when I do have dreams they are extremely vivid and real because I am seeing my thoughts which isn’t normal.
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There’s also exploding head syndrome. That one’s a real bitch
Sounds like you will need to rotate a real cow while in international waters.
Well planning all this and executing it you won’t have time to be bored.
How/when did you discover this?
Not OP but also have aphantasia.
I discovered it when I was…23? My whole life I figured people were saying “picture this…” figuratively and it didn’t even occur to me that it could be otherwise because it was self-evidently impossible to me to “see” something until I learned the word “aphantasia” and that the inability to visualize is not considered the norm/not universal.
Yeah took me 36 years.
It takes actually knowing that people actually see images to know that you cannot do that.
Counting sheep never made true sense to me. How is keeping a tally of “imaginary” sheep jumping over an “imaginary” fence supposed to help me fall asleep?
Makes sense when you realize people do it to stop their brains from randomly sending themselves other imaginary that’s going to keep them up. It’s like choosing to turn on the TV to something you could fall asleep to is my understanding.
Yeah, with that one in particular I thhough everybody was just beating a dead horse with the same joke on “counting sleep.”
For you and @Sludgeyy@lemmy.world , do you find it affect your memory/recall at all? Especially for reading something, do you need to read aloud? You dont need to answer by the way, I have my suspicions that someone I know might have it but they aren’t aware.
I would say I generally have an excellent memory with better recall for what is read vs what is said. Not that helps you, but I’m a merely anecdotal case.
Maybe more than recall ask them when they read fiction if they pictures the characters orbjust kind of glaze over during prolong descriptive sections. Do they complain about movie casting? I never picture characters so even if I think a performance is bad, I’m never mad that the actor doesn’t look like how I imagined them.
I’ll never forget trying to read Redwall as a child and trying to remember what character was what animal. I had to write down a cheat sheet.
Memory or recall of facts. No.
Memory or recall of life experiences. Yes.
From my understanding people can play a “movie” of something like their last birthday party. See who was there, what they were wearing, etc.
Unless I make note of something I’m not going to remember it. I can “subconsciously” make a note of something and recall it but I cannot re
But other than a list of facts I have about my last birthday party, I cannot recall or experience it again.
As for reading. There’s no difference between me reading a biology textbook or a romance novel. I read, soak up knowledge, critically think, and remember.
I have to subvocalize to read. I’m curious on why you assumed we had to read outloud. I don’t know how other aphants read.
Edit: Wait, subvocalize is different than inner speech is what I just read. I have to have my inner voice speak the word.
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How do you read?
I have aphantasia and I have to subvocalize each word that I want to read.
Edit: Wait, subvocalize is different than inner speech is what I just read. I have to have my inner voice speak the word.
Is this ableist? Doesn’t seem prejudicial at all. /g
What does /g means?
My guess is /genuine
Thank you.
It means genuine, as in I’m asking a genuine question.
Thank you.
For reference: https://tonetaglist.carrd.co/
Oh nice! Thanks again.
No problem :D
100% of theoretical physicists would agree that cows are spheres. You could do mental math in which you calculate changes to the cardinality of the distributed mass.
It should look something like this: 0⁰
Fuck, it’s the police!
I can hear cows in my head, but seriously it’s not that great. All they say all day long is, “kill them. Kill them all.”
It’s kind of monotonous.
Consider the consequences of your actions, please!
Is it worth it? That depends. What percentage of the boys does it bring to the yard?
I think we need to run a controlled experiment to determine the ratio of boys brought to one’s yard.
According to the pic, at least 2
There’s a metal cover of that song. I don’t know anything beyond it existing because I heard it in passing while biking to work last week but it made me laugh when I realized what it was.
I gotchu, it’s Goodnight Nurse
That image could have a Peta watermark, and I wouldn’t question it.
Why is the cow wearing a thong? :(
You’d rather it be naked that’s fine you can rotate naked cows
Yo everybody! Get a load of this guy! His rotating mind cows are naked!
I assume there’s a variety
Mine is wearing a leather suit.
The Ed Gein of cows
Because you want to bang your mom.
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as an aphantasiac I will literally describe the worst possible scene and you will be forced to picture it
and I will win
:3
Yeah i’m like 80% aphantasiac, I can picture maybe the last time I saw a cow I, could probably imagine something else in the static scene, I can’t even really make it turn it’s head.
There’s no rotating it.
All I got is dark gray static. No cows. The occasional moving blob of different dark gray static.
Does this affect dreams?
My dreams aren’t visually detailed, but i’m not sure that’s necessarily unique. I also have trouble with faces, but I can remember really long selections of words and numbers.
Oddly I can do a really good job drawing 2d and 3d things from reference art if they’re 1:1
It’s probably not so odd, it doesn’t seem to have much of an effect on creative skills. A friend of me has aphantasia and she’s a tattoo artist.
Nope, dreams and nightmares are good and vivid.
I have an idea or a concept of a cow. Turns out that’s not standard either and falls under aphantasia.
Concepts of a cow
Same, but I remember that I used to not be able to stop rotating things in my head… wonder if aphantasia can develop with age or maybe brain damage (yay covid, messed up some flavours and smells for me too, artificial mango flavour stuff tastes like TV static)
Sadly I can’t help you out with that one. I haven’t done any deeper research into it than a basic reading of a newbie guide.
I remember everything. :(
Literal superpower. You hold us all at your mercy.
No, I will imagine a rainbow farting unicorn singing Bohemian Rhapsody instead. I win.
And in my mind I will make it happen to a bunch of clowns in DC, and enjoy every second.
Nice try ;)
Aphantasia enters the chat.
and here I am able to taste a tomato while you say tomoto
Poop
When I used to have to go to church as a kid, I’d imagine I was starting a new save file of Zelda Ocarina of Time. By the time mass was over I’d usually be up to one of the first rooms in the Great Deku Tree, in my head. It was only decades later I learned I was also autistic, but that’s a story for another day!
I did the same with watching Pulp Fiction and The Phantom Menace in church
Well… shit. That’s what it was?
A polish song about doing cocaine playing quietlyThat was the same cow I was just rotating.
Hey! Get your own cow!
You wouldn’t download a thought-cow
Traitorous people want to make you believe for some reason that YOU CAN do things WITHOUT your LOCAL CORPORATION knowing. TO USE such DANGEROUS things as IMAGINATION is ANTI AMERICAN, and is the attempt of ILLEGAL ALIENS to weaken the AMERICAN ECONOMY which is doing great, best it has ever been, yesterday a big economy, strong economy; beautiful economy, came down to me, tears down its eyes, thanking me, saying mister President, thank you so much for making me beautiful again, and I said of course I did, after SLOW POWEL got out, I was able to lower interest rates, devalue the dollar and FORCE AMERICAN FACTORIES back so that great products like most AMERICAN products can really SUCEED and BRING the AMERICAN DREAM BACK contrary to CHINA which is faltering, have you seen how mismanaged their real estate sector is, I could’ve done much better, cause I am a GENIUS and clearly I am amazing, did you see how I ACED MULTIPLE COGNITIVE TESTS, they asked me list these animals, and I said, it’s obvious, woman man person camera TV and the doctor, she speaking of XI, he’s an amazing leader who is making China great and TOLD ME that I PREVENTED AMERICAN DECLINE AND AM NOW ON ROUTE TO A GOLDEN AGE like my BALLROOM which is GOLDEN and TACTICAL, and SAFE just like our stock market IT IS RISING AND BETTER THAN EVER. THANK YOU FOR YOU ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER, PRESIDENT DONALD JOHNATHAN TRUMP
Gotta be honest, sleep deprivation really helps with these
i hate that i read this in his voice and it was flawless. 0/10, perfection.
Am I supposed to assume a spherical cow?
Yes. In a frictionless vacuum.
With an ambient light source the same color as the cow and the background.
…and the cops can’t stop you
Neither can the cow hehehehehehe
I don’t even have to close my eyes to do this
I have seen aphantasia mentioned many times but don’t forget about hyperphantasia
Thank you for sharing.
I have a thing were I can imagine speech without having to imagine sounds. I don’t know how to call that. That is some sort of quiet internal narration for my imagination that happened when I read a lot. When I watch a lot of movies, I end up imagining camera mouvement, like traveling and zoom in/out. It is like I can imagine vividly but the way my imagination express itself is out of my control and depend on my recent environnement.
I like to interpret the flow of imagination as a river that has impressions in it. I can play with that at will, be precise and specific or just observe what passes by, zoom out to a broader view. There is energy where is concentration. But if I am tired or bored and have to do repetitious tasks, it can be very distracting to dream away and I think this is important to consider for people that are creative. Many are diagnosed with ADHD or other conditions when they just haven’t found out enough about themselves.
There is no cow level
Don’t kill the king!
Me: Low chuckle
Mind police: “Hands up!”
