There’s no question that judging women by their appearance is a widespread problem, but doing expensive/unsafe medical things for the sake of appearance is also about personality.

I think its reasonable to bring attention to the extremely harmful act of women, who are held by society as the beauty standard, are anorexic or abusing weight loss drugs when it isn’t necessary.

We have countless studies on the ill effects idolizing women with unrealistic body standards, especially to the point they’re harming themselves to achieve them, has on women and young girls. This recent revival of the “heroine chick” beauty standard via eating disorders and GLP1 abuse is a nightmare to the psyche of women and girls, and also does damage the psyche of men and young boys for that matter.

Judging people they don’t know by their appearance.

I’ve seen WAY more women tear down other women for their appearance than men. That and the crazy online dating statistics that came out showing women judge people by their appearance way more harshly.

I don’t know if its a cultural problem or not, but people in general judge others by their appearance. Beautiful men have pretty privilege just as much as women.

This is it, right here. It really doesn’t matter what women do, there will be a legion of people coming out of the woodwork to disapprove. I’m hardly a transhumanist but when it comes to those small modifications to ourselves to feel more attractive, I’m all for it.

I mean, it’s been going on far longer than 20 years. It’s just been more directly relatable to how women’s appearances have been critiqued since ‘metrosexuality’ was a trend a couple decades ago.

the thing is, those ppl have seen others with mar-a-lago face. it’s uncanny. still they do it. they are like “i wanna look bad and unnatural”. we have to accept that. their body; their choice.

That’s not right.

They are yelling at women that they aren’t good enough… unless they are waring their product. Oh if you use that other product you are just as ugly as you feel inside.

Is that why every brodude smells like tea-tree oil to high heaven now? Every nu-male must be drinking the same Faceslop and Instaslop trends

And then that gets hyper magnified through our little pocket black mirrors that most commonly destroy your attention span, thus ability to deeply consider any concept or do deep introspection, and it creates an incentive structure for people to turn themselves into superficial advertisement mascot people, which itself then becomes culturally normalized.

When I got fat, people were assholes to me so much more often. They had no patience for me, it was crazy. I got back in shape and I’m worth courtesy and kindness again, apparently.

I’m afraid of aging in part because I’m scared to lose that basic human decency again.

Halo effect is real, most people aren’t self aware enough to realize that they do in fact bias their judgements of others based on how attractive they find them.

This meme is part of the system here as well.

No one in this thread is complaining about ugly women getting these procedures done. They want women to be attractive, but only on their terms.

Yup, the beauty industry and women’s magazines push an unattainable look to make other people, usually male, lots of money.

and misogyny

I just want you to know that I’m downvoting you because the way you express your opinion is facile and simplistic, and honestly helps further the division you purport to critique. Not because I necessarily disagree with the general sentiment you believe you’re trying to convey.

One word answers to problems are easy, but they rarely accurate enough to actually help solve the issue and generally are used to push people to extreme opinions. It’s much less effort to just spout a catchphrase to push people towards your own personal goal rather than get into an actually beneficial discussion about the ins and outs of how life actually works and how to solve real world problems.

Women put pressure on other women too. Girls can be bullies in school.

I’m not downvoting you, but I am disputing the assertion that only men uphold unfair standards.

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and if you interrogate where that insecurity has its roots, you will often find the answer is a society that constantly subjects women to judgement for their appearance, be that negative or positive judgement. it is simply the experience of being judged. botox, ozempic, plastic surgery, etc all becomes gender affirming care when you are femme in a society that requires femme identifying people to perform the role of disireable sexual object

the original post asks why. the original post also is why

and men have their own experiences with oppositional gaze, too, so we are clear. if you’ve ever heard the phrase “low t” applied to a man in his 30s or later, you have witnessed it

Very true, and already-attractive women started being told how pretty they were while they were younger so it became part of their identity and sense of self-worth. So they’re vulnerable to the fear of “losing their looks.”

I also lost about 100 pounds by eating one meal a day and walking a lot and using the EC stack.

In the span of seven years, I nearly quintupled my income.

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A healthy body needs fat. As long as you are healthy, you can have fat. The amount and thresholds can vary strongly from person to person.

Ozempic causes GI issues, such as paralysis, and numerous other issues like fatigue and depression because starving yourself isn’t healthy. Just exercise and eat a better diet. Exercise is so good for you that fat people who exercise are actually healthier than people of a healthy weight who are sedentary. No fucking way would I ever go on a weight loss drug.

Like most things, Ozempic is fine by itself. But when you put it in the context of a society obsessed with both unrealistic beauty standards and assigning moral weight to any perceived “flaw,” Ozempic is a fast track to returning to the eating disorder epidemic of the 1980s-2000s.

Future historians will also note the coincidence of the meteoric rise of Ozempic with the rise of fascism. Making people feel bad about themselves is how the ruling class and patriarchy exert control. They want you to be unhealthily obsessed with your weight, just as they want you to be addicted to drugs, porn, video games, etc. The radical body acceptance movement was a direct threat to their power, and Ozempic has pretty much removed it from the conversation.

I know a couple people that are on some of those ozembic type drugs for their weight and it’s done wonders for them. They were obese though, not already at a good weight, and nothing else they tried worked for them because their food cravings were too much for them to deal with. With the drug they are able to manage their diet and maintain a healthy weight effectively.

Wholesome plot twist; the “already attractive women” includes all the women.

Yeah, this post is just misogynistic.

Reverse discrimination, nice.

Self confidence is attractive