I don’t think those are “gateways” though. I think the real gateway is when you try something that you’re taught is vilified and told it will make you stupid and ruin your life, but then all it really does is chill you out. The gateway is realizing you’ve been lied to and you wonder what else was a lie so you try other things. Alcohol if anything has the opposite problem.
100%. There’s also the fact that when weed is illegal, the only way to get it is through someone who likely sells other illegal substances so it’s not hard to start messing around with other things after smoking for a bit.
Weed is only a gateway drug when its illegal
Crazy I had to scroll down this far for the reason it’s actually called a gateway drug.
The gateway is having to deal with shitty people that used to be in those crowds.
Its becoming less of an issue as more people use it responsibly like social drinkers and you dont have to deal with a complete waste of space to society to get it or be around others who partake.
Reefer madness is bullshit, but its also not 100% harmless either. Chronic use of THC still almost certainly causes GABA disregulation for instance.
You have a stupid majority who act like weed is just as bad as heroine and meth and THE gateway drug, but the potheads who are just horrible people spouting about how its completely harmless aren’t helping the cause either.
Also people with mental illness in their family history should probably not use it. But that is true for all drugs, including alcohol.
Calling alcohol and nicotine the first substances that most people abuse when caffeine exists is the biggest win in propaganda history.
No one has ever said “man I love coffee, I should try ecstasy next!” Lol
No but people have said if you take ten wake me ups (caffeine pills) it feels like cocaine
So this is what coke is like
These caffeine pills dont do that for me anymore
Maybe I should try coke
Source: my social circle in high school
You don’t know my life
I’m sure more than a few people have said “coffee ain’t doin’ it for me anymore; I should try cocaine or meth,” though.
Unable to cite sources on this, I swear I’m not pulling it out of my ass and I did hear it on broadcast news like in the early 00’s…but adderal is (or at least, was) the most abused prescription drug by “soccer moms”, so, I wouldn’t be surprised.
nobody has said it because the same person never sold both
if you had to go to the ecstasy guy to buy your coffee too, then you’d be much more likely to try ecstasy as well
What? I’m confused at what point you’re trying to make lol
imagine a scenario, coffee is illegal. you can’t buy it in a normal shop, but the same guy that sells every other illegal substance has it. and you have to go to that guy to buy some coffee
even though coffee is not similar in its effect to any harder drug by going out to buy it you’re gaining the skill of obtaining illegal substances, and also put yourself in a place where you can get a variety of them
as you’re buying your coffee your drug dealer tells you “try this, it’ll make you feel really good” and you know what? society’s already lied to you about coffee being bad, maybe they’re lying about the ecstasy thing too, you already trust this guy, he’s been selling you good coffee, so might as well try something new and exciting too eh?
and to be even more blunt, what i’m trying to say is that it’s not the substance itself that makes a drug be a “gateway” it’s the way you obtain it
if weed was perfectly legal and sold freely then it would not longer be a gateway drug, because as you try it you don’t gain the experience and skill of obtaining illegal substances, nor do you get placed in a position where you can grab something extra with your purchase
Damn dude that’s a lot of text but I can’t take anyone seriously who thinks coffee can in any way shape or form lead to drug use lmao idc how well thought out your thesis is, it’s an insane hypothesis.
Caffeine has plenty of health benefits also. Forcing the working class to rely on it to survive is bad, but whatever you’re saying is ridiculous.
i suggest you actually read what i wrote, instead of making yourself look like a fool
You know anyone that’s never had coffee before they’ve tried x?
Know anyone that’s never had pizza before they tried heroin?
Pretty sure milk is the ultimate gateway drug.
Casein
Coffee isn’t really a mind-altering drug in the same way, and people take it for it’s effects recreationally. Getting drunk, though? It’s not for me, but people do that for fun, and then look to other ways to have fun in the same kinda way. All the sudden…
There is a whole merchandise category about people not being able to function without coffee but I’ve never seen a mug that says “don’t talk to me unless I’ve bumped a rail”
Picturing that on some stockbroker’s desk
That’s mostly just people not having a personality outside of the priducts that they conume.
It 100% is a mind-altering drug, a body-altering one too. You can get super fucked up from caffeine, and overdose to a point of death (which you can’t with cannabis). Caffeine has little effect on me and many others but it has major effect on a big part of humanity (and other living beings). Some can’t drink coffee or energy drinks because it fuckes them up so much, and others get so addicted that they ruin their health from it.
I didn’t drink coffee until I was thirty.
How about soda?
Not by choice. I guess in a float, but root beer isn’t caffeinated. I preferred herbal tea. I was a very edgy child.
lots of tea has caffeine in it
You just scan statements for things to support what you already believe,don’t you? Do you realize how ridiculously fascist that is?
They specifically said herbal tea, which in general doesn’t have caffeine.
You forgot caffeine in the meme
Refined sugar.
Literally classified as a unscheduled drug but people give it a pass cuz ur more “productive”. More people have died from caffeine overdose then weed overdose.
More people have died from caffeine overdose then weed overdose.
Sounds like a rectal fact, got a source?
It’s true, mostly because the LD 50 for THC is like a kg/kg (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK563174/). It’s so astronomical that you would die from many other issues before thc became a concern. Caffeine actually has a pretty low LD 50 even among many illicit drugs, it’s just more widespread so people aren’t incentivized to take hyper-concentrated doses of it.
I don’t think there’s a single recorded example of someone dying from cannabis overdose in the history of humankind.
Lol ok troll
Alcohol and nicotine are the first step in the path of despair. But cannabis is the gateway to a good time. Change my mind.
Eh alcohol can be enjoyed in moderation. Personally I massively prefer it to weed
Same. I’m not actually a fan of weed. No ill effects, just not more enjoyable to not consuming it for me, and less enjoyable than the right amount of alcohol (but much more enjoyable than too much alcohol, so balance is key).
Are you really having a good time when the munchies hit but you’re out of snacc?
A little planning ahead can help with that.
A tip that has helped me a lot with munchies: instead of chips and taco bell, reach for some fruit. Solves munchies and cottonmouth.
I don’t get the munchies, so there’s that.
Person 1: You know what? You’re right. They should all be deregulated.
Person 2: You know what? You’re right. They should all be illegal.
2 : Mormons
EDIT: Although not sure , given how Utah/SLC is. IT’s a shitty joke, I apologise.
Has anyone called marijuana “a gateway drug” since 1997 or so?
Boomers and uptight genX.
You mean the generations that made pot use common in college?
No one is calling cannabis a gateway drug aside from the Republicans. Who all do cocaine.
Whoa dude. Republicans do all the drugs known to man, they just judge everyone else especially minorities for it, in a delicious and idiotic hypocrisy.
Ronald Reagan and Nancy Reagan both regularly smoked marijuana.
I’m not denying that shit loads of Republicans do cocaine (and meth) but I guess what I’m saying is that they also do all those other drugs that they hate on left wing people and minorities for doing.
So many boomer Republicans are so doped up on legal opioids because they’re rich connected and have good doctors, it’s not even funny. All while freaking out about anything that becomes available on the street, accessible to people without insurance.
Part of me feels like they wanted heroin and oxycodone replaced with the far more lethal fentanyl for the purpose of punishing the “wicked junkies” but that’s somewhat of a conspiracy theory.
Part of me feels like they wanted heroin and oxycodone replaced with the far more lethal fentanyl for the purpose of punishing the “wicked junkies” but that’s somewhat of a conspiracy theory.
I mean, there’s a reason crack cocaine was so prolific and associated with negative outcomes in black communities… It’s reasonable that a similar strategy might be used again in that same manner.
History often rhymes
Caffine. The kids drug of choice
It is a gateway drug, not the. But it is the one that forwards most people to harder drugs.
nictoine would be a gateway drug too if you had to meet with a shady dude in an alleyway or get bitcoin to buy it
Its been my experience that 125cc motorcycles, Cessna 172’s, DJI Mini-2 drones, and Ender-3’s are also gateway drugs. Less illegal but just as damaging financially.
I often call e-bikes gateway drugs to motorcycles :)
I’m older, for me normal bikes were gateway drugs to motorcycles.
On the other hand, for me normal bicycles were gateway drugs to even more expensive normal bicycles…
I’ve been rawdogging life for 31 years
I dare you to try it
I dare you
Healthy and sober is no way to go through life son.
I tried, it was terrible.
Internet explorer ass comment, 2007 called, they want their hot take back
It made sense though. People would get weed from their dealer that’s laced with something else, now they’re addicted to meth or something. Now that marijuana’s legalized and I don’t need a dealer, that risk is gone.
I live in a small ass rural Canadian town and drug dealers lacing weed was never a thing. Is this shit actually common cause I always felt it was fear mongering. I’d be way more worried about cocaine and other shit like that.
No dealer is giving away free drugs by secretly lacing your weed with something way more expensive. Dealers lace harder drugs to make more money, not slipping you some meth for… reasons?
Weed doesn’t accidentally get laced with anything, and they sure as shit aren’t gonna give you it for free.
Cocaine is laced (more like cut) with cleaning chemicals all the time to make it less coke and more clorox, which is considerably cheaper.
One of. The biggest is the fact that no one even thinks about sugar or caffeine.
As someone who hates coffee, soda, and energy drinks, i think about this anytime I see any of the above.
How D.A.R.E. you!
