On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR “apology” (ironic)
How can you call “the transgender topic” at all “controversial”? You either support and protect minorities or you don’t.
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My rights are not a controversy. You’re just a bigot.
Technically, they are controversial. There are people who support your right to live and there are people who dont support it
If half of humans thought water was dangerous, drinking water would be a controversial topic
they are not bigot, they just dont live in an echo chamber.
whether you like it or not, there’s lots people not thinking like you. I’m not one of them, just to clarify before I suddenly become a bigot, but people like that do exist, in masses
If you “have an opinion about transgender people” that involves taking away their rights, or putting them in harms way and that prioritises the needs of everyone else first, and the needs of trans people last, if at all, then you have a bigoted opinion.
and where exactly was that my opinion? it is not an opinion, that such people exist. that is a sad and hard fact.
but sure, kill the messenger, call me a bigot for pointing out reality.
I wasn’t talking about you, I was talking in general, and the specific context was the person earlier in this discussion, who you explicitly stated is not a bigot.
So where exactly did the earlier guy state that was his opinion? He got called a bigot simply immediately after calling the issue controversial, not because he said he believed the things that you claimed.
I know its a huge job but will Blahaj ever consider migrating to PieFed over this (presumably when the tooling ia ready)?
Yep, it’s absolutely something we’d consider once database migration becomes possible
A lot of people thought that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to go to school.
yes, and what does it matter here? that’s another example of a controversial thing
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Weather the whole concept causes controversy vs if trans identity is valid are two separate things.
At one point (before scrambling my instance so lost to this account) I made it a point to create a thread on a LGBT comm just to try and get some insight from people who actually lived it since I’m pretty far off from it and it was pretty enlightening. There are still some things I don’t really understand and don’t expect I will without direct experience.
In the end though it doesn’t cost anything for people to just treat the trans community as regular humans who in no way are hurting you. To that end the notion of if trans ID is valid shouldn’t be seen as controversial outside of by those refusing to allow someone else to live their life as they want to.
I mean, it is absolutely controversial. Whether or not it should be controversial is what you seem to be referring to. I 100% agree that it shouldn’t be controversial, because human rights should never be controversial. But as it currently stands, it is an extremely divisive topic with strong opinions in both directions; claiming otherwise is outright disingenuous.
db0 trying not to be based challenge:
Impossible.
I mean they still left the begging thread up with the “separate the art from the artist” message, and let Nutomic intentionally mislead users about “developer salaries” not going to support .ml. If they really wanted to be based they would have banned Nutomic for being a greedy little pig boy and told people to donate to Piefed.
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Unless Piefed gets a database import ability to port Existing Lemmy databases to that I don’t think Switching to it would be such a great idea. It would mean starting our instance from scratch and losing everything we have content, user registrations, communities. If Sublinks hadn’t stalled it could be a promising alternative, and maybe will be in the future, since it’s built around that whole concept of database and API compatibility.
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It would mean starting our instance from scratch and losing everything we have content, user registrations, communities
Not really, because PieFed can already copy/migrate community content.
Futhermore, there are lot functionalities that will improve your user experience as tags, flairs, tile view, multi-community, filter, wiki…they did that in 6 months whereas it was a lemmy issue since 2020.
PieFed is compatible with Lemmy API. But, it still a WIP, we need more python developper. :)
Can it copy the existing database structure? Like could an instance migrate and have users just login to the piefed instance as if nothing had changed? If not point remains. Migrating software later in the life cycle of the platform is a destructive process, and one done with very little purpose considering the nature of open-source software.
Sorry, i’m replying late. I don’t know well enough migration tool. @rimu@piefed.social did a demo there :
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If you migrate dbzer0 to piefed, I’ll send you a decent donation to help cover some of the costs.
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@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com appreciation
Probably the best admin on this entire platform, but I am biased as I am under their instance.
Agreed, as another person on dbzer lol
Shadow from lemmy.ca is also great. I’ve never had a single complaint about how they run things.
This is really shitty but it doesn’t surprise me at all. He’s trying to make a shift because he doesn’t want to face repercussions of being labeled transphobic, possibly being widely banned and ostracized.
It’s very different when someone actually realizes they were wrong and want to change and be better. Nutomic isn’t doing that here, he just wants people to give donations and to avoid fallout from him letting his opinions slip publicly.
Bro is literally panicking that he might have to get a real job.
Tbh open source development absolutely should be enough to cover the cost of living.
this piece of shit will never get any money from me
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Yeah, lets start donating to piefed.
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Its Called Piefed
the alternative to lemmy is piefed. mbin also exists.
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Sure, but you can just make a script that migrates it.
Right now, there isn’t any problems with the code, so there is no reason or incentive to fork it.
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I read about that. I honestly would have switched to piefed myself if I hadn’t gotten too used to the lemmy-ui.
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obviously human rights apply to everyone including transgender people.
I’m not going to get bent out of shape on that statement. It isn’t doubling down or escalating like the folks still sending death threats over shit like neopronouns.
I think it’s more the evasion and unwillingness to show support for trans rights, which should be easy. The fact he is hesitant or worried to show support indicates he thinks there is something wrong with the view that trans women are women, etc.
Just want to say that a large amount of users on lemmygrad and hexbear have complained about this. This post was even added to the slop community on hexbear because, believe it or not, hexbear does care about transphobia. He was called out 8-9 months ago too. As far as I know he is banned from hexbear, but I might be mistaken.
Most ML parties in the US I’ve interacted with have been pro trans. CPUSA, PSL, FRSO, APL, (to name a few) are all supportive of trans people.
Y’all are free to criticize tankies to your hearts content, but Nutomics views on this topic do not represent the views of most of the tankies you’ve interacted with on lemmy.
Yeah even Hexbear is against Nutomics right now. I can personally confirm this.
No idea about lemmygrad personally, but Hexbear is currently calling for Nutomics to remain site banned for this. They banned Nutomics. They don’t like him.
I have issues with Hexbear for other reasons, but they are on our side for this issue.
EDIT: They’re still against Nutomics and hate their transphobia. So much for “will fall in line when admins give the word.” I dislike Hexbear for a lot of reasons but this is not one of them.
9 days later, Hexbear is still aginast Nutomics and their transphobia and doubling down on it.
Weird how you got downvoted for being right.
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I’m not really good at refuting the points made against including trans people in sports, but John Oliver in Last Week Tonight did a segment about trans athletes if you actually want to learn about the pro trans athlete arguments.
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first off thats a hypothetical situation made up for the single purpose of excusing discrimination.
second off, I think you should look into the process of transitioning. It seems that you just think it’s bottom surgery (“required procedures”) and that’s it.
Please learn about this topic before claiming that you know both sides. You can’t say its black and white when you haven’t even looked into the “required procedures”.
Do you care more that a significant proportion of the population (0.5% of people depending on statistics) can be comfortable and fit into categories without being discriminated and thus have a community and do sports.
Or do you care more about who wins a medal at the olympics?
Essentially, do you care more about protecting medals or protecting people?
what if there was 3 sections for sports: male at birth, women at birth, and then a mixed thing in which anyone could compete
I don’t really see the problem with that sorta system
A lot of people didn’t see a problem with segregating water fountains by race, either.
yeah but segregating water fountains is different because the only reason it was done was bc of racism, there only needs to be one fountain
in sports men are inheritly stronger than women, so it makes sense to segregate them like that. now idk about how people transitioning from male to female or visa versa works with this, but if someone who was born male transitions to female but somehow retains some of that inherit strength (like say, they’ve got different bone structure or their muscles developed differently, or something that hormones cant change), I think they could have an advantage over other women in that sport.
I don’t wanna come off as transphobic or something, I don’t know much about all this, but I hope you see my point
I suspect the fact that you don’t know much about it is why you are parroting widely discredited transphobic talking points.
The point is that today, we see clearly with the benefit of hindsight that racial segregation was done purely for the sake of racism. At the time, people muddied the waters with pseudoscientific rationalizations like phrenology and eugenics to mislead the masses and justify their bigotry, just like people are doing today with trans people in sports.
The only reason water fountains are seen as different is because the racists lost and we collectively have a new perspective after decades of integration. The transphobes are still empowered. Make no mistake, the bigots would love to reinstate all manner of segregation if they could, racial or otherwise. Trans people are just an easier target right now.
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A) There’s literally a pinned post in this comm that this post is, essentially, a sequel too.
B.1) One of the things they always say on the Tankie Triad is that their instance(s) are trans safe spaces, how can .ml be a trans safe space with a literal transphobe as main admin?
B.2) There’s no place in a just world for transphobia
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allowing biological men to compete as women [is bourgeois = bad]
This is blatant transphobia. Just imagine it with nationalities : “allowing people born in Mexico to compete under USA banner is bad” would feel awful.
Man, there was an example that was actually done by history, right there for you
“The blacks clearly have natural physical advantages over white people. They have had hundreds of years of breeding for strength, and endurance, from selective buck breeding of the slave holders. They have no place playing baseball with with white men.”
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Depending on the sport it can have. Come and try to beat some of the old ones of my town to a game of Pétanque, i guarantee you being born in France would help you.
More generally, as gender defined at birth, geographic location can have a huge impact on the acquired skills (different training, funds to sports, mindsets, etc.). The impact of biological sex (and i guess what you mean is innate advantages) is also greatly majored : MTF athletes would win every game if that was a great deal, and that’s not the case.
Apples and oranges are fruit, round, sweet, can be pressed in juice, are a way of describing colors, are both the name of tech companies, etc. Just because there is a slightest difference in two concepts does not make a comparison impossible.
Then you should fucking follow your leader you nazi piece of shit
Transphobic bigotry means you shouldn’t be breathing, you piece of shit. Fuck you.
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oh no he was caught saying tankie buzzwords, russian propaganda intermixed with transphobia. I agree with you, HOW DARE people bring that up infront of bunch of clueless people who want to give him money. This is DISGUSTING he is judged based on his real opinions rather than the carefully-curated online persona.
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“lgbtq is evil western fakery” is russian propaganda.
8 hour old account almost exclusively defending tankies. Astounding.
It’s a banned user known as Antiyanks, who makes alt accounts constantly (well over a hundred at this point) to evade their ban and abuse people. They’ll be gone soon, and I’m sure they’ll make another account soon enough.
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Hi again, Antiyanks. Bye again, Antiyanks.
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Poor victim who missed out on a few donations for thinking "trans are made up to control the protaleteriat ". Truly awful, thoughts and prayers.
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I believe you. I agree he puts up one face in public that is different from his own opinions. I also agree iis opinions are bad enough for you to warrant a shit fit trying to spin it as “yes hes a transphobe but you weren’t supposed to find out”!
You make it sound like someone hacked him. Someone sent him a message including references to the topic and he replied. The person he sent the messages to said “wow, that’s pretty shitty” and shared it.
There are pretty minimal privacy expectations when it comes to messages you send strangers on the Internet.
Maybe you shouldn’t make hundreds of accounts, asshole. Ever heard of getting a life?
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