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is that… did he… did he really say that?
Per Newsweek article
“Think of it, magnets,” Trump said. “Now all I know about magnets is this, give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets, that’s the end of the magnets. Why didn’t they use John Deere? Why didn’t they bring in the John Deere people? Do you like John Deere? I like John Deere.”
Incoherent rambling like usual
How. How is he THIS fucking stupid? How did someone THIS fucking stupid become president twice?
Many people are just as stupid as him.
Our society prioritizes trash like nft startups instead of education
Many don’t really get to hear him unfiltered. Around T1 I was watching Fox and they at best had a text snippet of something he said. Never extra text around the snippet and certainly not the audio. Still many do go and see him live.
Many are, but many Trump supporters started out smarter than him but they’ve dumbed themselves down to his level in order to continue their support, I guess.
Some people will do anything to continue to fit in with their group. I don’t think it’s always even a conscious choice.
pretty much i know someone in my family, started supporting trump, roegan, and YE. and youtubers i used to follow did this too.
i think his supporters are stupider than he is, he has said how dumb republicans are on many occasion, but this almost never clicks with the voters, because these voters are likely never following up with his policies anyways.
Just look how stupid the average person is. Half of the people are more stupid. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
The last few years have taught me that the difference between stupid and not stupid is oceans wider than I thought.
I turns out stupid people are closer to what I thought the intelligence of an animal was.
These people literally don’t think. They basically pattern match and that’s it. There’s no deeper reasoning. There’s no capacity for nuance, no understanding or extension of empathy. They can barely read. If you string the gibberish from an AI they’ll blindly trust that it’s correct above all evidence.
Meanwhile we’re seeing all these nuanced multi step problem solving behaviours from birds and all animals and even bumblebees…
I read something from someone on the internet who claimed to work with bear-proof garbage cans and apparently it’s harder than one might expect. There’s some overlap between the smartest bears and the dumbest people.
I’m sure the bears are more motivated, but still…
The quote “There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.” is usually attributed to a Yosemite National Park Ranger taking about the issue with designing bear proof trash cans.
Thanks!
I think you mean then median person. ☝️🤓
Can’t speak for anyone else, but I was taught that mean, median, and mode are three different types of average.
Oh crap. Translating average to my language yields the same word as mean. But you’re right.
Because mean means average. I wouldn’t consider the median or the mode to be an average. Not sure what that commenter means by different “types of average”.
Not a native English speaker here. Today I learned, too. Thank you.
Under a normal distribution/bell curve mean and median are the same.
Considering intelligence/stupidity isn’t defined, it’s a lot to assume that its distribution can be approximated by a Gaussian.
I don’t totally disagree, I’ve never seen an actual distribution of random iq scores
“He’s one of us”
His brain is soup. Probably a combination of hard drugs and venereal diseases.
when you have a propaganda apparatus on tv, online helping its not hard. plus general mysgoyny and racism goes hand in handle. rather than actual “action plan”.
Ignorance is often glorified here.
He’s 80 and spent 6 of then as president. I don’t think you’d fare much better. Why blame a senile man rather than those who put him in place?l
Because even before he was a senile old man, he was already a child raping con artist?
That makes him immoral, not stupid. I swear people on here will call anyone they don’t like stupid.
Are we just glossing over the fact he bankrupted a CASINO? The one business where the business model boils down to people give you money?
There’s many more examples of stupidity, but bankrupting a casino is god-teir stupid
He did not bankrupt a casino.
He bankrupted at least three of them.
I can without a shadow of a doubt say I would be a better president.
When he finally does die they’re going to Weekend at Bernie’s him for as long as they can. But we’re all immediately going to be able to tell, because the level of stupid comments will drop significantly.
My grandfather was 104 when he died and until he was about 95 and had a stroke he was still perfectly capable of tinkering around with his car and it still worked at the end of it. “Old” isn’t an excuse, anyway we have documented evidence that he has been been a gormless idiot his whole life.
Porque no los dos?
behold, the shining beacon of freedom and democracy
Dude sounds like chatgpt 0.1 beta
or 6 after ads
What the tractor people? Are they particular experts in magnetism?
i wonder if his dimwitted supporters actually understand or trying to decipher what hes saying or they just like hearing him talk as background noise to affirm thier beliefs.
Maybe it’s to do with what a literal dogwhistle is. I can’t really make heads or tails of this, but that’s maybe just because my brain is on a completely different wavelength. Like dogs can hear specific frequencies humans can’t. Maybe trumpists hear certain things in between this word soup that actually makes sense on some level.
Or maybe he’s just a senile old man and his followers are incapable of critical thought when it comes to him.
Incoherent rambling to us fucking poetry to the demented lead paint chip eating maga crowd
He said he would drop the glass on the magnets, not put them underwater. You can demagnetize a permanent magnet by violently striking it in the absence of a background field.
I’m not saying he’s good, but I don’t think he’s entirely wrong.
Don’t know why they didn’t use John Deere though.
The magnitude of physical stress waves a magnet has to undergo to be demagnetized is huge. Most magnetic materials will shatter instead unless the force is applied precisely.
I think he vaguely remembered something about electromagnetism and that water on electronics is a no-no.
The main takeaway is that he should appoint an engineer to advise him on technical topics (and Surgeon General on medical matters, etc.), otherwise any sufficiently sly corporate sponsor or media can easily steer his policy by pretending to be experts. I guess the only fields he does not need to delegate are being a douchebag on TV and lying about real estate.
Citation needed! I’ve done it with a cheap iron magnet and a hammer.
Anyway I think he implied that these magnet was just below Curie temperature.
He might just be a stable genius.
Have you done it with a glass of water?
Now we’re talking science!
I’ll write the funding proposal at once.
Iron magnets are crap, but I imagine he does not know better having gone to school in the 50s-60s. But yes, those are magnetically weak enough and physically strong enough for a hammer to work.
He was talking about electromagnets at sea ships… Because the sea-water would short them.
But then, it’s almost as stupid as the short version.
At this point you can’t really tell whether something is satire or a quote from the orange president.
Unfortunately he did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJufrrsaIks
And just in case anyone thinks that’s AI, ABC News vetted it as being true here (in the body, not the video).
I know why voting records can’t be public, but I simultaneously wish they had to be too. As an appropriately-colored scarlet letter.
You think they’ll put scarlet letters on the bad guys?
When ever you think something sounds too stupid even for trump. No you didn’t.
His stupidity is his defining characteristic among his voters. For the wealthy and powerful, he’s an easily manipulable rube. For the poor saps he says the same stupid things they think and say. He’s just like them, so relatable!
It sounds shocking until you remember Americans are dumb as shit. I have to keep reminding myself of this to make any sense of the absolute dystopian nightmare that somehow they support.
had to look it up. aparently yes, 2 years ago
It isn’t just that Trump is a dumbass, being uneducated and “stupid” aren’t what makes Trump worthy of hatred and endless namecalling. Simply not knowing things does not make you a fascist.
It is the complete lack of curiosity people like Trump have that I despise more than ignorance, it is violently antithetical to the basic reasons I love science and the pursuit of understanding the world. I am curious, I ask questions, I don’t just accept shit that people say because they say it a lot.
Trump hates people like me because we can walk all over him on basically any topic whereas people like me hate Trump because he does not desire to know anything beyond what he is forced to know.
First Juggalo president
whoop whoop! !juggalos@lemmy.world
well… to be fair…
Whenever I think about magnets I remember this Feynman interview where someone asks him why magnets behave the way they do, and he says that to answer a “why”-question you need a foundation where something is agreed to be true, and it seems like for electromagnetic forces we end up in " because that’s how the universe is apparently".
Sure, but between nothing and the axioms of the standard model we end up with a fairly comprehensive description which can predict how different kinds of magnets behave in a wide variety of situations.
That’s knowing how to use it, not how it works.
No, the theory of electromagnetism and by extension physics in general is knowing how it works. How to use it is engineering, a different set of knowledge which we also have some of.
I think they mean more the difference between what rules it follows and why it follows those rules. It sounds like we know more about the “what” but not much about the “why” for magnets (or any of the fundamental forces).
Feynman was a bit pedantic sometimes.
I’d expect nothing less from a scientist. Decrying pedantry from a scientist would be like decrying financial accuracy from an accountant.
When its warranted yes, the pedantry is a plus.
The gift of a talented pop scientist is to know when to turn on and off the pedantry.
This seems to be easily said of anyone trying to popularize science philosophy.
That is sort of how the universe operates though. You can have a greater and greater understanding of the underlying principles of physics but eventually you do get to “that just how it is”. Why is there no such thing as a negative photon, apparently we just can’t have a negative excitation in the photon field, no one knows why.
I mean one of the points he’s making there comes up in every good science class: science doesn’t answer ‘why’ it answers ‘how’. The goal of science is to describe what we see in the world; science less about explaining things. Its easy to do without being a pedant. He’s absolutely being pedantic on camera in that clip.
Like if you look at how people treat science now: MAGA completely pissing on it because its funded by snake oil people. Rich guys like Elon Musk cynically using it as a way to bilk the public and government. The press just has different goals than the scientific community and I would say that clip showed some of that friction manifest.
Yeah. Each time we think we’ve got it, there’s another hole to dig deeper.
With a lot of things:
You start off with no knowledge, and it’s a big mystery.
You gain some knowledge and feel like you have understanding.
You gain a lot more knowledge and you learn how much more there is that isn’t known.
The President is either at stage 1 or stage 3, take your pick.
No he’s at stage 0. He has no knowledge but he doesn’t investigate he just makes things up and then says that.
We’re talking about the person who thought that stealth planes were physically invisible.
you forgot about the parallel imaginary number line (√-1), i think that is where the president lives.
You meant stage 2? “some knowledge and feel like you have understanding.”
Wish he was at stage 4…
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Feynman must be
rollingchanging the spin orientation in his grave.I guess those spinning magnetic pills one puts in beakers over a magnetic hot plate in chemistry labs are all an empirical hoax then.
Those are stir bars.
That they’re magnetic is propaganda to push magnetic field bunk to sell more so-called “magnets”. Stir bars are moved by phlogiston, which is why the liquid medium is often heated in tandem.
Please tell me you forgot the /s …
Haha, 100%. I’m a scientist, I haven’t believed in phlogiston in years!
Another phlogiston denier in an ivory tower. Tell me then, how does fire work?
JFC, how many times do I need to explain the workings of luminiferous aether?
/s
Serious time: we actually did briefly learn about all types of debunked theories in university, but as a component of the historical progression of contemporary theories.
Oh my god a real luminiferous aether believer. Basically christian theology. How fucking convenient for you, father.
Hey now, if you can tell me how light travels between two points without being facilitated by an entirely undetectable medium, I’m ALL ears.
so you can tell!
They are protected by the PTFE cover, so the magnet is not in contact with water. Basic chemistry…
They’re my fave bit of lab equipment. That and the Vortex because I must touch it.
I always wanted kitchen cookware with a stirring pill. But it would require using glass or ceramic cookware on the stove. Which can be done to some extent but still feels sketchier than metal.
Smart people will always admit when they aren’t sure about something.
Idiots always know everything
The lodestones have always been, nobody knows their origin, or how they work. /s
cries
I wonder if we could engineer some material that does fulfill his spec. Magnetic in air, loses magnetic properties underwater, regains them when out of the water…
An electromagnet with no waterproofing. Stick it in water, it shorts out, once it dries out it starts working again.
That’s fine but it would be better if a partially submerged device also functioned partially. And I said material specifically because it’s lame if it needs power.
Looks like slop, eww
At best you’re preaching to the chior. At worst you’re wrong and it’s not A.I., and you just look foolish. Your comment is a waste of bandwith either way. I’m tired of literally every thread having someone yelling “slop” in it.
And I’m tired of the fucking slop. Not posting slop is how you avoid unnecessary bandwidth.
Ironically, you’ve left your mistaken comment sit up here for 7 hours now. #Hypocrisy
How am I mistaken and how does “ironic”, or “hypocrisy” apply? O.o
Consider getting in the habit of reading the other comments before asking a question.
Were’s the comment that shows this ain’t slop?
