• Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
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    I put my dick in the future and it came out more rotund but less grandiose, so i have the conclude the future is Maricopa county, as they grow wide, not tale. Gross amd quidditch corsackage.

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      I think your priorities are in the wrong place if you think about “forums for communists” instead of “telegram channels with incel nazis”.

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        I interpreted it as them mentioning lemmy (since lots of lemmy users are communists or socialists of some flavor), but if they meant to complain I agree with you completely

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            Now I feel compelled to ask: Do you this meme is seriously asking for opinions on subversive innovations? Because I interpreted it as asking what is the most dystopian.

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              I took it as the poll itself, and the results, being entirely irrelevant. They just decided to use that as the format/delivery mechanism for their joke.

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              It appears to me that the meme is complaining about tech breaking laws, not soliciting opinions. In case this needs to be said, I’m using Lemmy because of its ability to resist (legal!) censorship, especially of long-overdue leftist speech.

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              And I hope you would agree nazis killing people are more dystopian than fucking larpers.

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      But then the poll would make little sense, because forums for communists would win with 99.97% of votes…

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    Fake money for criminals helped me buy weed when I didn’t have a local dealer. It’s also how I pay for Mullvad. So fake money for criminals wins.

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      Fake criminal money more legit than government money. One day I woke up to the news that all my deposits are frozen indefinitely, that I am not allowed to carry cash abroad, and that I am not allowed to get bank accounts or transfers from any foreign institutions. .Thank fuck for crypto and that I had some. It literally saved my life, so yeah, fake criminal money by a long shot for me.

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      Fake money for criminals is unironically a decent addition to the world, although it’s coded in a really dumb way. Plagiarism machine is overhyped right now, but it also has some legit uses.

      So, the poll actually seems about right.

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        Bubbles always burst eventually, just wait for it.

        Although, without the grift, it would be super illegal, so should we really complain?

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          Depends how you use it. And which coin - before Q day comes Monero is pretty private, but Bitcoin is transparent.

          • Also depends on your definition of privacy. Some people confuse privacy (not seeing what you do) with anonimity (not knowing who you are).

            Public blockchains (like BTC) have zero privacy, as everyone sees the transactions and balances, meanwhile private ones (like XMR) supposedly avoid anyone but two people in a transaction to know that transaction happened, or even to know each other’s balance.

            In both cases, I would say you are as anonymous as your way to turn the coin from/into fiat is (P2P, KYC or non-KYC platforms, etc.).

            Like with AI, I like crypto as a concept, but the practice… (specially the resources both consume for what little benefit they end up having)

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              You can swap Monero with a more common coin on a decentralized exchange with no KYC, and then cash that out at your Coinbase or whatever.

              Also, Monero is very efficient for a proof of work coin, partially because it’s designed to be mined on regular, consumer grade PCs.

              According to Google, it uses somewhere between 645 and 650 GWh annually, compared to between 150 and 204.4 Terawatt-hours (TWh) for Bitcoin.

              Bitcoin was the first, and as is usually the case, that makes it one of the worst.

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                According to Google, it uses somewhere between 645 and 650 GWh annually, compared to between 150 and 204.4 Terawatt-hours (TWh) for Bitcoin.

                sure but it’s also a much smaller operation

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    • Doorbell surveillance network
    • Self-service identity theft
    • State secrets betting house
    • Billionaire fan club fund
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    i’m going with the fake money for criminals, cuz sometimes the criminal in question is a trans person trying to get their medicine

    to my great annoyance, almost all diy hrt online can only be bought using crypto. and wow does it make you hate cryptobros to have to navigate an ecosystem clearly designed for speculation to get your life-saving medicine 🫠

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      Can’t you just hold your money in a stable coin like USDC to avoid the volatility and speculation?

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        the homebrewer i was buying from didn’t support this one, so i would’ve had to convert it, which means fees typically

        anyways, i don’t really care to maintain a crypto portfolio. i buy the coin when i buy the thing, so volatility isn’t too much of a concern. my main annoyance is at the bonkers fees that exchanges want because they (rightly) recognize cryptobros as a milkable consumer base

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        i hate the people who turned a way to pay for things anonymously into a stock market.

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          Creating a market to exchange crypto and cash enables everyone’s use. Speculative markets are a natural feature of something new like bitcoin and would’ve happened regardless.

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    The exposure of hotels using surveillance pricing. A room should cost a hunnert bucks a night. Not $100 or $150 or $200 or $250 etc., depending on which “app” you pray to. Am I right Trivago?

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      Just be a fake criminal to get infinancial from the CIA OG WHAT IS THAT ME OF SHIT I GEYS GROST OF HAUNTING AS I DO TO MY OWN SELF WANTON WANTED DID NOT WHEAL MBOATS.

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      Say your country makes baby formula illegal to push some breastfed is the only way agenda, would you consider a mother buying formula online with crypto a criminal?

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        Yes, because criminality has nothing to do with morals. If the state views you as a criminal, you are a criminal. That’s why some criminals are still good people and cool.

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          I wouldn’t say it has nothing to do with morals, since (at least hopefully) it’s our morals that help guide us when making laws.

          But yes, illegal does not necessarily mean immoral, and vice versa.

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      If people value it I guess it isn’t so fake. Most “legit” currencies are just the goverment promising you its worth something anyway.

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        Fiat currency is based on the government’s ability to issue and service debt, which is based on its ability to collect taxes, which is based on the economy it oversees. It’s a bit roundabout but the pieces all connect.

        Crypto is supposed the compensation for providing compute resources to a blockchain, which ostensibly backs some application with actual intrinsic value. In that sense crypto is real, but there are no actual blockchains which support valuable applications. The entire thing much more closely resembles a ponzi scheme where real currency is deposited, and then the appreciation it experiences is proportional to the ratio of inputs vs withdrawals, without there being an actual asset creating value.

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          Crypto doesn’t have value because tech bros say it does, that’s not how it works.

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          In both cases the trading value of the currency has almost nothing to do with who originated it, and almost everything to do with how the general public feels about it.

          Just like crypto, most “government” currencies are worth what they’re worth only because everyone agrees that they are. That’s called “fiat” currency. And that’s why fiat currency exchange markets exist. The US Dollar hasn’t been “convertible” (redeemable for a fixed amount of precious metal) since 1971, and many other world currencies were already backed in some way by the US Dollar at that time.

          The real difference is in the supply.

          Government fiat currency is difficult to counterfeit, although the government (or reserve bank) can always make more whenever they want. We trust them not to print more money, increasing the money supply and devaluing the currency. However, this is exactly what has happened sometimes in the past, and no doubt will happen again in the future.

          Crypto currency is virtually impossible to counterfeit, and IIRC there’s a finite (but not precisely known) amount of it that can be made, no matter who you are.

          Personally, I still use physical fiat currency and no crypto. I’d like to use crypto, but regulation in my country makes it very difficult to use without registering your details with a central authority. And although everyone’s pushing e-money options which are similarly tracked, thankfully I still have the option of using anonymous cash.

          I don’t do anything bad or illegal. I just believe that government and big business don’t deserve to know everything I do in my life simply because they want to.

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            and IIRC there’s a finite (but not precisely known) amount of it that can be made, no matter who you are.

            This varies wildly depending on the coin.

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            You can use crypto without those registration if you know where to find locals who are willing to trade it for cash. It’ll be just like finding a local dealer.

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      Monero my beloved…

      I believe in a future where we won’t need money anymore, but in the meantime, Monero is a pretty solid choice.

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      I tried looking at dreadforum to see how markets work nowadays and found out in a minute I was viewing a mirror that was injecting links

      I think I’ll just ask a dude on the street at this point

      But then again I am in a country where that would work with 0 negative consequences for me as the user

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        Doesn’t dread’s captcha force you to check the url? Afaik it makes you fill in specific parts of the url, so that you check that the url you are using is the same one they are using. Curious how the mirror was able to bypass that.

        Regardless I just spent some initial investment saving the pgp public keys and making sure they are legit, so that I can use them to verify dread’s mirrors.txt whenever needed. Faster than walking out to the street imo

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          It’s my first actual visit, and I did what apparently is the obvious faux pas

          I googled for dreadforum link, was pointed towards one shown at https://dreadforum.io/

          I entered it into tor browser, no captcha was shown and I landed directly on the site/mirror.

          The one post I read, something concerning validation and opsec on markets or dreadforum, had an explanation that if the text they wrote in hyphens differed from the url right under it I was already viewing a mirror, as they spelled out a link.

          That was true, the url shown was darkmyurl dot com instead of the actual link spelled out hyphenated.

          I was humbled, and have now learned that even asking for the true php keys from you right now is submitting to defeat. The only good opsec seems to be your own

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    Why is everyone so toxic? If you wanna discuss something be nice. (Even if you think that the person you are discussing with is a complete idiot)

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    The very fact that it’s “fake money for criminals” is exactly why I didn’t pick up any BitCoin when it was 12p per coin… I could have been rich af off of £10

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      “criminals” = people the goverment doesnt like crypto is untraceable (mostly)

      I think thats why there are so many smear campaigns against it

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        crypto is untraceable (mostly)

        Super super incorrect.

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        crypto is untraceable (mostly)

        It is very traceable. It’s just that the government doesn’t have a special position with tracing transactions, so there’s been a bunch of kludges built on top of the very transparent Bitcoin network to try to mask things.

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            For your lay: the government puts a significant fraction of the coins into these boxes and can use the statistical information gained from this to deobfuscate transactions. If you put enough money in, either at once or slowly over time, they can figure out who you are.

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          thats the point, its decentralized

          anything is traceable IF you have a special position in the transactions

          monero, as an example, lets you run your own node

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            Monero is untraceable (if you don’t use a KYC exchange to get it), but Monero isn’t “most” crypto.

            You said crypto, in general, is mostly untraceable and that’s very very wrong.

            Monero is the exception, not the rule.

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        There are plenty of issues beyond that, especially BTC and similar coins being energy inefficient, just imagine if every single transaction ran through that. It wasn’t designed to be practical.

        And on the less technical side, the biggest contributor to crypto being despised by most people is the massive prevalence of scammers, from companies that pretend to help you invest (while being a ponzi scheme) to rug pulls to other scammers being attracted to it for its perceived anonymity.

        Afaik there’s legitimate uses for the underlying technology, but cryptocurrency is just inferior to regular digital currency from a practical standpoint, and you either have to put up with government regulation (defeating the purpose of a currency aside from government) or put up with fraud that can’t be stopped by our governments.

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          the biggest contributor to crypto being despised by most people is the massive prevalence of scammers

          At risk of being called a crypto bro or something (I’m really not, I learned all this shit years before everything turned into what it is), I’d like to play Devil’s advocate here for the moment and ask how that’s different from fiat currency?

          USD is practically untraceable, and people are being scammed out of it constantly with no recourse.

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          so you have to put up with surveillance or put up with freedom?

          I dont think the state should be able to trace transactions

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            That’s very understandable, but impractical for investments and savings, the US insures some banks and the like but it doesn’t insure crypto funds, if people’s savings end up there based on false promises (or if their assets are managed by a third party) they can lose everything and have no recourse.

            This isn’t a hypothetical, it’s the story of countless people who lost everything to grifters. I don’t think blaming individuals makes a lot of sense when it comes to emerging technology and when, again, regular finance is generally insured by the state. The biggest reason for scammers to flock to crypto is that there’s a lot less regulation, making it harder to prosecute them. And that’s my original point on the choice we have right now, even if ideally we want better choices in the future. Right now you either go with a traditional institution for financial services, which includes government oversight, or you operate on your own and assume a lot of risks, whether you’re even aware of that or not (and financial actors purposely deceive people on this end, as it’s in their best interest to do so).

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          so basically, research the crypto you buy and practice basic cybersecurity?

          sure, it wasnt designed for everybody, but that isnt a reason to smear it