Gen X made 90 minute cassette recordings of their favorite music. Back then you could lower the volume to ignore ads and wait for the DJ to trigger your recording. Today I just use the mute on the remote and have my other device handy to watch some other content while waiting for show to come back to the main content. It’s always good to have a mantra about adverting by associating it in your head as indoctrination “Poison” which is what it is essentially.
My smart tube app wasn’t working tonight so watched YouTube on the normal app. I can’t believe people live like this, it’s actually unwatchable.
Seriously bro! I got revanced on my phone and smart tube next on the tv. I legit had to think about the last time I used the official app and it was nothing but angry memories. Waking up in the middle of a, and I’m not making this up, hour plus long ad! Always auto playing some ai slop bullshit about some murder or something slightly cosmological.
I was jarred by an ad playing during LOTR on HBO just now.
If you run Fcast receiver on your android TV device, you can cast to it from Grayjay without ads.
Dam ads exist ? Been on YouTube Revanced for 5 years now 😂😂🖕🖕 fuck you google.
I’d very much suggest everyone try YouTube Revanced.
Though android is likely going to crack down on them before the end of the year, so new users should switch to a degoogled or open source phone OS.
Or download the videos using ytdlp, and use a cable to transfer them to your phone like it’s 2012.
I’m on graphene is already
Im using 1Blocker on Safari macOS and iOS and get no ads on YouTube.
Nothing is ever enough
Line must go up!
What are ‘ads’? 🤷🏼
Remember when Google was “not evil”? :(
Do the right thing!
But like all corporations once that IPO went through they abandoned any semblance of morality at the alter of obscene profit.
You guys get ads ?
to the people who read stuff on /c/technology, likely not.
No, why would we? Americans maybe? They love ads, apparently…
You guys get ads ?
you guys go to YT ? I wonder how and why it’s still out there. They make it so obvious they don’t want people to watch video’s there
Only for a short break, usually with freetube, newpipe for clips, metrolist, harmony for music. Now I get my info from fedivers and RSS feeds
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I was part of a really annoying one recently that targeted vpn use but it seems to have stopped
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
What’s the end game with YouTube? Will it eventually cut all videos and show nothing but ads?
The ironic part is that there was a time where I’d watch hours long compilation videos of funny ads, and even now I watch 90s nostalgia ones set to vaporwave mixes. Hell, every person and their grandmother I knew at one time watched the Superbowl “just for the ads”.
At some point, the goal of marketing shifted from “How do we keep your attention/whimsy” to “How can we force unwilling participants to comply?” Fuck that fascismo shit.
That’s always been the goal of marketing.
Ahhh, so similar to Facebook then. I don’t bother with that site either.
Demolition Man becoming increasingly prescient.
It’s called enshittification.
Thanks, Google. I was trying to cut down my usage of YouTube.
What are the best Fedi alternatives?
When I checked the Fedi alternatives were far-right hangouts. Part of that unfortunate “free speech absolutist” == “asshole” phase.
It’s not Fediverse but I like Nebula. It’s more like a co-op so I don’t mind paying for it at all.
Peertube, but lacks content.
If that’s the only issue, then it’s good enough.
It’s what Lemmy was when I started up after reddit killed their 3rd party apps. Like a year later Lemmy exploded
Peertube it is, then.
Not fediverse, but Nebula is good
I don’t think it’s fedi but I like odysee
Invidious if you don’t wanna install a bunch of software
I mean alternative platforms, not alternative ways to use YouTube (although this looks useful in the meantime, so thanks anyway)
Nebula sound promising.
I like nebula but it is pretty limited. Its mostly educational and essay type stuff. For the price it is amazing and the only streaming platform i have anymore. But i dont know if id call it a youtube alt unless you only watch that type of video. They have a handful of other things too but the variety just isnt there yet. The other thing i both like and dislike is the lack of comments.
I do recommend it though. Crazy affordable, owned by the creators, ad free. Just kind of niche still
What are the best Fedi alternatives?
laughs in uBlock Origin
Well currently they’re delaying the video start by the time it would have taken the ad to play. It’s still better than having to actually watch ads, but blockers are not in the best position right now.
That’s what they say but not what I’m experiencing. Either way, blank screen is better than ads
Same here. They really underestimate how much more annoying ads are
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Little do they know this is eating at people’s YouTube addiction !
I’m not watching ads so it’s doing exactly what I want it to thank you very much.
What delay? click vid, yt asks if I want to know why my connection is slow, by the time I read that the vid plays. FF+UBO+Linux
On your TV?
I’m not the person you’re responding to, but I’m running SmartTube on an Nvidia Shield here. Works amazing.
It astonishes me that the shield is still the best of the streaming boxes after all these years.
its still very capable, but best depends. iirc there are certain audio formats the shield doesnt support.
i personally would love a new shield using ~switch 2 soc just so i can move emulation/lower end pc onto it.
What format does the shield not support that other boxes do support?
I went to go look it up for my old setup, turns out its mainly for the older models, as the codecs are only supported on the newer revisions of the shield tv.
though with the shield tv, one of the missing things that would be nice to have would be AV1 support (as Nvidia only supported AV1 starting with Ampere based gpus)
It’s so versatile. One of the last great products Nvidia came up with before shooting up AI crack.
I have this thing called a DisplayPort cable. So yes, uBlock origin on my TV.
Edit: I’m realizing this might be coming across really shitty, but i promise I’m just intending some tongue-in-cheek dry joking.
I mean there are ways, like pihole, but I like the simple option of a really long hdmi cable that I use to plug my computer into the TV, so I never have to use any of the shitty built in TV apps.
Edit: not pihole, apparently.
pihole hasn’t worked for years to block youtube ads, no?
You’re correct. Pihole works at the DNS level. Since YouTube hosts their ads on the same servers that host their videos, blocking the ads with DNS would also block the videos. Which I guess it technically works to block YT ads, but that’s a little like saying “set a man on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.”
I thought so too, but maybe I missed something new with Pihole/YT Ads.
What, it works for me? Put on an 8 hour video while doing chores and had ads every 5 minutes. Filled with rage I installed pihole and no more ads.
I’m curious how. Maybe a different region? I don’t have Pihole anymore but it didn’t use to do anything for me for YouTube. Luckily we have uBlock.
Honestly, I’ve not used it, I just know of it. From a quick search it looks like you’re right tho, you’d probably need to use an external device like an android box or something.
I would love to run a long hdmi cable from my pc to my tv, but I have rabbits and they like the spicy hay
So I was watching Forrest Gump and he’s running through the jungles of Viet Nam. All of a sudden he stops running. And I know that’s not right because he hasn’t rescued “him” yet.
Turns out my jerk face rabbit chewed through the Ethernet cable.
Rabbits do love that spicy hay.
And we love them even with their destructive habits. I love my two babies 😊
When he was still with us, we loved our jerk face too.
Rabbit Tax:
What a handsome fella he was! Thank you for sharing.
Here are my buns
Look for an armored HDMI cable. They are wrapped in a steel jacket. Conduit is also an option.
Conduit is probably the best option, I just haven’t done anything with it yet. And I might have to convince partner to cut some holes in the wall to make that work. I’ll eventually figure it out.
Oh no, I feel that, we had an orange kitty who adored his electric spaghetti! We had to run cables through that tube conduit stuff everywhere >.<
Oh the orange ones are the most fun. I had a couple oranges as a kid and they were so sweet and so dumb. I loved them lol
Yeah I unsmarted my TV and just threw Mint on an old laptop. FreeTube works great on there.
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Smart tube is GOATED.
Probably a fair percentage of users block þeir smart TVs from connecting to þe internet.
I have a script that takes a YT URL on my clipboard and uses yt-dlp to download it to my Jellyfin folder so I can watch on my Apple TV on The Big Telly.
Fuck adverts.
I haven’t tried it personally, but have heard good things:
If you’ve got a VPN, just install that on your Apple TV. Google doesn’t show ads in certain countries (the list is Googleable). That was an absolute game changer for me.
I use an Apple TV, but I assume it’s the same as any other streaming box or appropriate smart TV.
The absolute piece-of-piss way to block all YouTube ads on it is to install a VPN like Proton, choose a relevant country (easily googleable), and there will be no ads whatsoever in YouTube.
Google doesn’t serve ads on YouTube in a handful of countries.
There are some options on some TVs. WebOS has an app which can be sideloaded.
Actually, YouTube is cracking down on adblockers.
So while you might not feel the pain now, you will eventually.
They’ve been “cracking down on adblockers” for over a decade
“They” have also been trying to prevent consumers/us from taking ownership of our devices and data for the last 2-decades.
… and, ya know what? It’s working.
Nah, if Youtube blocks adblockers then I’ll just waste my time elsewhere.
Same, I low key hope they do it so I’ll read more. This might be the only way. 🙃
real maybe I’ll actually go through the mountains of DVDs and blu rays in our apartment
There’s always a workaround…
Because they don’t put the effort in.
Add a simple “the video isn’t served until the ad’s length has elapsed” and suddenly your only workaround is to spend 30s staring at a black screen.
Better than ads
Deal.
The moment I’m unable to watch YouTube ad-free is the moment I never watch YouTube again.
The day I have to watch ads is the same day I stop youtube. So far ad blocks seem to work well for now and I’m more than willing to spend hours getting them working if needed.
Laughs in
Txt file with favorite channels as input for a yt-dlp download script schedule. Combined with a selfhosted invidious and freetube desktop app for other then favorite videos.
Honestly I am really tired of jumping trough hoops, have to make sure yt-dlp and invidious use a proxy (cloudflare warp) or google will ban your ip for being a bot.
But having to deal with the actual YouTube site or reopening my google account is worse. Its not even (but still also) the ads at this point but pure resentment against big tech.
Why not run tubearchivist or something?
First I hear of if but a quick scroll shows it mostly to organize an existing collection so you would still need to download.
I put them straight into jellyfin which works fine for me.
You got that script handy?
I wont be home till quite a few hours.
But also its general boilerplate enough an ai can help you get you one according to your own preferences.
There are also a number of examples online.
This one looks pretty interesting https://github.com/panchi64/auto-ytdlp
When it reaches that point I’ll stop watching YouTube. I will never feel the pain they inflict.
Cracking down just means I don’t watch the content, still not getting ads.
I feel the pain anytime I look at a video outside of my browser. So if it becomes where I can’t find a workaround, then I’ll just have to go elsewhere. And there will be other places. There are other places, it’s just hard to get people to not go to or be on the big one. Push people hard enough, they’ll leave.
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Is your friend using a chromium browser?
/me chuckles in umatrix
Grayjay, feetube, Smartube, Newpipe etc etc…
It’s all fine and fun until Google prevents people from installing third party APKs in a few months…
Invidious
they wont. thats just bs. there will be advanced flow to use ,and adb to install.
For us advanced users true, but for the bulk of people where ”just use this app instead” has worked previously, will not do it anymore. Whole lotta more hoops to jump through and google knows many will not be able to.
There will be an advanced flow for now, maybe (they didn’t explain how it will work). But our freedom is getting restricted nonetheless
Can they? Because I’ve got a modified YouTube ipa on my iPhone and that’s more closed than Android could ever become in the span of the next few months.
Where can I find more info about this .ipa?
I don’t remember the exact procedure for this, but here’s the summary. You’ll first want to install sidestore or sidestore + livecontainer. Computer needed for that. You’ll also want a stock YouTube ipa file that you can then mod with YouTube Plus or similar utility.
You’ll have to update livecontainer (if you installed it) and YouTube every 7 days unless you have a dev license but Sidestore does it with a single button press in-app so it’s not that inconvenient. You can install ipas within sidestore (limited amount at a time) or livecontainer (as many as you want I believe, but it’s more complicated) without connecting to a computer once the initial setup is done
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If they just made the ads unintrusive people wouldn’t bother installing adblockers. But sure make the ads longer and see what happens.
Exactly, people used to love ads. They would sit down and watch hour long compilation videos of the funniest and weirdest ones. People would get hyped for shit like Old Spice and Skittles and never skip it. Even the Superbowl was less entertaining than the ads it had and that was a mainstream opinion.
It’s the exact same as the boomers who keep crowing “Why doesn’t anyone wanna work?!” but now it’s “Why doesn’t anyone want ads?!” lmao
Also changed how ads are served so they wouldn’t be a known security issue. Intrusive or not I will block all of them until security improves.
Wrong. Still would.
Nah, take a look at the stats of the number of people who tried out an adblocker for the first time when Youtube attempted to ban them several months back. Streisand Effect in action.
It’s like you don’t care about stonks and shareholder value.
I care about those things.
I want them to go down faster >:)
Most people still would.
I personally wouldn’t, that’s why I use Adblock Plus. But there’s a reason everyone started hating on ABP when it started allowing non-intrusive ads by default. Most people do not want to see ads at all, no matter what.
Back in the day it was just some stuff, like “bosch screwdrivers, 29.90” or something, now it’s attention grabbing hyper annoying crap, who can even live with that?
If they made ads unobtrusive they wouldn’t be able to charge as much for them.
Y’all still on YouSlop?
Invidious gang rise up!
Is it easily selfhostable again? I used to have it on my private server but eventually it ate some shit and the configuration of different helpers became too much of a burden.
I guess so? If you follow the docs its pretty easy. Although Invidious is now broken due to recent youtube changes, that always happens tho. Cat and mouse game
Although Invidious is now broken due to recent youtube changes, that always happens tho. Cat and mouse game
Yeah I really needed it tonight and it was a major disappointment that all of the public instances are broken with no ETA on being fixed. As I mentioned in another thread, I love invidious, I’m deeply grateful to the devs an those who run the public instances, I deeply mourn piped, but I fear for invidious’ future. It already seems like a once much more thriving community has been struggling to keep going. Like, it was sad to see ggtyler leave the scene, though I get why and can’t blame him.
I know it’s self hostable of course but I don’t think most people are willing to do that, tbh I’m not even sure I am. But I guess I’d have no other choice if the public instances all went kaput because I will not be using that disgusting site youtube and giving them more traffic. I’d be too bitter to be able to enjoy or even focus on any of the videos.
oh yeah, reddit even banned the sub for it, r/invidious. What fuckin’ bullshit is that, you know?
I support Iran striking Google offices and datacentres
