Why do you need to rev it early in the morning for 5 minutes waking up the neighborhood?
Attention seeking behavior. They have an internal desire to be noticed all the time.
Most aren’t trying to be assholes, just noticed.
Most aren’t trying to be assholes
imagine being so good at something without even trying!
Carbureted or not, it certainly helps if either the manufacturer or the owner doesn’t put on a super loud exhaust, I own a bike with a relatively quiet exhaust to the point I’ve gotten multiple offers from family and relatives to have it swapped to a louder exhaust, and they don’t understand when I tell them I absolutely despise that shit
My dad has been riding most of his life, and I have most of mine. Both of us have noticed that the “loud pipes save lives” slogan is a farce. If a driver is tuning out they will not notice your exhaust. If a driver is on their phone it won’t make a difference.
The trick is to ride defensively and wear a helmet. There’s a reason neither me nor my dad got into a serious accident get, its because we believe every car is out to get us, not that “if I’m loud and obnoxious they’ll notice me”
I knew a guy who would wear a high visibility vest like road construction workers wear. Also a bright orange helmet. It seemed to make a difference.
Thank you for your service.
Because they’re selfish, thoughtless arseholes.
They are stupid and they think that if they like the noise everyone else likes it
or
They are stupid and they think no one else can hear it.
To sum up: they are stupid.
Its not their fault. They were just born with excessively small genitals.
I dated a person with a micropenis and she did not behave like that.
Maybe it’s a man thing?
I know too many cisgenderd AFABs that do it to think it’s just a man thing.
I also know a couple guys with small ones and they also for the most part aren’t like that either, so it’s definitely not size.
Proposed consensus: maybe they’re just assholes?
Blaming deuterosomy, bold but I like it
They’re assholes.
Been riding in a European city with a bike that can go from 2k to 12k rpm. Of course in resident areas I kept it so low to be indistinguishable from the cars around me.
Electric cars and trucks will reduce a lot of noise pollution, but electric motorcycles will take us from quieter to eerily quiet… Can’t happen soon enough.
No fucking chance. Motorbrains will never abandon their custom exhausts. For them riding a bike without annoying everyone around doesn’t make any sense. Why bother if no one is looking at you?
Put up traffic cameras with microphones attached.
If someone drives by and makes too much noise, they get a fine in the mail.They will just slow down right before it. It will be great for people living right next to it but wont solve the issue.
The proper solution would be to de legalize modified exhausts. Both sales and possession. Treat it like fireworks or other socially harmful things. If you stop someone riding with one you charge them with possession. You look for workshops that install them and charge them with possession. You look for stores that sell them and charge them with sales.
The nice thing about it is that you don’t really have to look for them like for drugs. You can hear to from kilometers away, just part next to highway and stop the obvious offenders. Small fine for first time offenders and huge one for re-offenders. That’s what they did in Singapore and it’s working.
Switching from mopeds to electric bikes has made such a tremendous difference already
Cheap enormous Bluetooth speakers enter the chat
In the city that is pretty common for bicycles LOL
I would take a motorcycle revving over the noise some EVs make. Holy shit it is the most annoying sound I’ve ever heard and I’m terrified of a world where all cars sound like that.
Think of all the lives they’ve saved with those loud pipes.
Emotional support vehicle.
Being from the home state of Harley Davidson, more sympathetic I could not be. I hate it lol. They have giant rallies here all the time, back some years ago there was some big anniversary and the whole city was literally filled with them. It was kinda cool but loud as hell. I had a lot of thoughts about how the thought of freedom became intertwined with the freedom of mobility and for a while the motorcycle was sold as the ultimate symbol of freedom in stuff like Easy Rider, it went from hippies into bikers and addicted a generation to leather and gasoline. They did a hell of a job with it.
The thing is, motorbikes do give the ultimate in freedom … check out C90Adventures or Itchyboots on youtube, they’ve travelled the world in a free manner that wouldn’t be possible by other means.
I have several motorbikes, the ones I use outside of competition are very quiet. They give me freedom.
I’ve been riding over 40 years. I never understood this freedom bullshit. In a car, I can drive any time, in rain and snow, year around.
And how many unpaved tracks do you take your car down?
Do you lift it over rocks and past wash-outs?
Do you wheel it into hotel rooms for the night when you’re in a remote Peruvian village?
Do you drive it down back alleys that are a meter wide?
Do local kids smile and wave when they see your car?
I am thinking of getting a bike and exploring the south american continent but I know nothing about bikes. Where do I begin looking? Recommend me shows, yt channels, books and bike models please!!
FIRST, go take a safety/training course. Get your license and PRACTICE, probably for several years. become proficient in every situation you might face.
Then worry about exploring S.A. or other places in the world.
FortNine is the best motorcycle Youtuber, and it’s not even close.
For exploring South America, there are 2 options:
A BMW R1200GS if you want to do it like a German tourist, or a Honda Supercup if you want to ride like the locals.Look at those two channels I mentioned in my comment above. They both went to South America.
If you know nothing about bikes, learn how to ride properly before you go (and if you’re in the US, get more lessons than the minimum needed for your license). For South America you only need a small bike, like a 150cc. They’re easier to handle, cheaper to buy and run, and a good second hand one will attract less attention.
How’s your Spanish?
I never owned a bike. I have the license to drive them but never used it. Been thinking of crossing south america for a long time so I will first get the motorcycle and get used to it for about a year or so and then the road it is. Was researching motorcycle models, brands and prices on my country this afternoon (don’t wanna doxx myself, hope you understand). Came up with what I think would be required characteristics for the bike: It should have enough power to accelerate comfortably from about 50 to 75 mph, 56 to 81 mph, and ideally even 62 to 87 mph when needed. I’m not talking about cruising at those speeds all the time, but having enough reserve power for safe overtaking on highways. In my untrained view, safety would come from being able to pass slower vehicles quickly and spend less time in the opposite lane, rather than just having a high top speed. I need the bike to be popular around my area so I can get parts when it breaks and it should be comfortable for my body (test driving it will be then).
Amazing, everything you just said was wrong.
I’m sorry to say it again, but GET LESSONS. More than the minimum.
In South America you’re not going to want to do those speeds unless you just want to go on a main paved highway, blast from one side to the other without seeing anything, and then call it a day.
A 150 is plenty, and used by locals.
Seriously, go watch those channels I mentioned. If you prefer to read, then try “Lois on the Loose”, she did the tip of Alaska to the bottom of South America on a 225cc trail bike.
Having a big fast bike does nothing to help safety. I’ve had bikes from a 70cc step-through up to a 175hp liter bike. Right now the bike I use most for touring in Spain and Morocco is a 125cc trail bike with 10hp (though I have a 400cc bike for commuting / motorway / pillion use).
Thanks for the recommendations and for sticking up on me xD. Yeah as you can still I have a lot to learn
If you’re willing to learn, you can craft yourself an amazing adventure that you’ll remember for the rest of your life … I try and give good advice, because that sort of motorbike touring is something I love and I wish I could share it with more people :-)
Yeah, there are cool bikes of all sorts for sure, I would like to try sometimes. I was just saying the particular bike (harleys, choppers, big loud things) and lifestyle that was sold as freedom was anything but, those bikes cost as much as a car now.
Yes, and Harleys are big and heavy which severely limits their freedom to paved roads and only maybe the most gentle of unpaved tracks.
So, freedom was available all along, but not from those trying to market it as a capitalist lifestyle
Harley makes an adventure bike to go anywhere, but I would not trust it to not break and it’s overpriced.
That tank can’t make it to any remote places, you can’t even lift it in your own if you’re a woman.
My trailie weighs 105kg, and I can lift one end at a time - essential for putting it in the back of a pickup truck when it breaks down
I seem to remember South Park having a word for inconsiderate people like this, but I can’t remember what it was…
Small dicked babys
Carbureted bikes may need a little time to warm up in order to hold idle without dying. A clean and tune should fix that, but that’s effort the owner may not be in a position to make for whatever reason.
However, all you need to do is hold the throttle at, say, 1500 RPM instead of 1000. Enough to not die. Adding a cheap throttle lock makes it so you don’t even have to stand there while it warms up.
There is zero reason to rev a bike in neutral, at any time, besides dick swinging.
Im so glad my new bike has fuel injection. I can ride immediately after start. Hated carb bikes, their chokes and all that gunk that accumulates in there.
Oh I love me some carburetors, but yeah, FI on a daily driver is wonderful.
There is nothing to like about carbs. They are a compromise on fueling, they waste gas, they clog up, they suck too cold or too hot or too high.
They’re 100% mechanical and you can usually fix them with a flat screwdriver and some pliers.
They are craving for recognition.
It’s tuned poorly and doesn’t run right until it heats up.
It’s not about running right or wrong. Engines run differently at different temps. Idling after start isn’t necessary if you get on and ride immediately though. But I did have to choke mine a bit for the first few minutes.
Got rid of it though. It was stupid noisy and I hated myself on it until I could get out of the city.
I am looking to get into motorcycles and know nothing about them. I want a work horse to travel through the south american continent. I was under the impression that Harley was considered great for that purpose, I guess their propaganda worked on me. Can someone enlighten me on models or places to learn what I want?
I say this as a former Harley owner. Anything but a Harley. Id you want to ride through South America I would look at some of Japanese bike. Honda makes a good adventure bike. Ewan McGregor a long tour rider and he uses a BMW. If you can afford one of those then that is what I would get.
Ewan McGregor was followed by the team of BMW mechanics for one film, he used other brands in other films. Japanese bikes are reliable and fixable. BMWs are neither.
I use to ride with a guy that was a BMW lover. He has 2 r75s and one other. The r75 he rode the most had like almost 200k miles on it. It ran like a top. I have never owned one but know several people who do and they love them. However, you are correct Japanese bike are world wide and easy to get parts for when they break which would be the biggest consideration if I was going a bike tour. I have looked at getting an adventure bike but I find the standover height to be too high.
I’ve never known anyone who said Harley’s were good for anything besides"style"
… This includes several people who owned Harley’s.
Never had one myself so I can’t speak from personal experience.
Harley is a few years away from broke. Dealers are closing everywhere. They catered to one demographic and it’s dying fast.
Yeah, unfortunately they lived by the boomers with extra cash, and they’ll die with those same boomers. I don’t remember the last time I’ve seen someone under 55-60 on a Harely. Maybe the occasional kid whose dad bought him one?
Personally I’d recommend a Honda. They are cheap and durable. The most important thing is to learn to ride defensively and wear a helmet. If you take the time to understand positioning, other driver behavior, and how to handle hazards you’ll do great
As for all-rounders, they aren’t the sexiest bikes but any upright dual-sport or adventure type are going to be the most fun and most versatile. Sport bikes are quick, cruisers are sexy and comfy, but damn did I love ripping around on a XT250.
I’m not an expert, but anyone I’ve ever seen doing transcontinental rides has some kind of ‘touring’ bike. BMW is a pretty common brand.
