(marked NSFW just in case)
Hi girlies!
I’d like to share my experience with libido changes and HRT and I’d really like to hear if anyone else has experienced anything similar…
So, to start off, my HRT regimen in the beginning was 50mg of CPA daily (oof) and 4mg of oral E (I did sublingual, of course). It didn’t take long at all, and after my second CPA pill, my libido disappeared completely. I had no motivation for sex, masturbation or anything like that. If my bf wanted sex, I obliged, but just to please him, really. I never really stopped using it (ew), because I need it for SRS, but it wasn’t very enjoyable. This phase lasted a while…
I remember about 3 months in, I had switched to injections. My libido was weak, but it did exist. My orgasms were alright I suppose. Worse than pre-HRT, weak and less satisfying. Sex with my bf was barely enjoyable, it actually just kinda hurt. 3 months was when my endo gave me prog, 200mg daily. I decided to try rectal.
And prog was…weird. It pretty consistently gave me thoughts about pregnancy. Not much of a libido boost, but a little bit…maybe? Sex was a little more enjoyable. I started wishing my bf could put a baby in me…
My orgasms got stronger too. Just a bit, but they were kinda similar to pre-HRT. It was just a weird hormone overall.
Clearly, prog was doing something. A very subtle something, but not nothing. It wasn’t really enough for me to justify taking it rectally (inconvenient), so I started taking it orally…which quickly ended with me eating my entire supply. It did help with my anxiety temporarily tho.
This happened once more.
Prog prescription -> take it rectally -> it’s doing something? -> rectally sucks anyway -> eat it all
Months 4-5 tho…my orgasms changed again, even without the prog. They got stronger and shakier, which was a good thing. During this time, I also switched to 25mg CPA. I started enjoying sex a tiny bit more…but I never really looked forward to it. The prep was brutal and tiring and I just felt overall like it wasn’t worth it. I much prefered masturbation with a magic wand during this time, instead of all the prep for sex.
Month 6. I got prescribed prog again. This time I decided to avoid oral altogether, whatever may happen. And I also got a dose increase with my endo, 200mg daily to 400mg daily. It’s been 7 days since starting 400mg rectally every night. And this may be completely placebo…
But sex just feels…better than it did before prog, every time I have sex now?
The experience is fuller and richer, more sensational. Everything feels right. I feel a much stronger emotional connection to my boyfriend. Without prog, I swear, something was missing from the experience. But now…I feel like I can barely get enough. I actually look forward to it. I beg for it. I’m so mentally aroused all the time…all I can think about is my bf coming home and…you know 😆
The mental aspect is strange. My body does react, my nipples get hard and I think I get flushed, but it reacts much less than pre-HRT. Most of it is going on in my head and I feel like it’s more emotional. Pre-HRT, it was much more physical. I actually prefer it this way.
This might be just E alone. I think that, because in my City girl post, I described an intense NSFW moment. And I did enjoy that, a lot. I think it was because I was in the right headspace, after a successful day. Other times, sex wasn’t that great. But with prog? Every time is amazing…every round is its own little experience and I love it.
My most recent blood test showed:
- Estradiol: 1350pmol/L at trough (367 pg/ml)
- Progesterone: 556nmol/L (174 ng/ml)
- Testosterone: 0.37nmol/L (10ng/dl)
This is already way too long and I don’t even know if I’m making any sense, but what I’m trying to say is that I really enjoy the sexual changes of HRT. Placebo or not…I believe in prog. This is working for me.
I’d be interested in hearing other girls’ experiences. I can ramble about my love life all day, but I’m curious about other people’s journeys. So please, if you feel comfortable, do share ❤️
E: hormones
Prog: whore moans
It’s so true tho 😭
50mg of CPA daily
Wow, I was taking 1/8th of that before my dose got reduced even more
Yes. In my country, the doctors go crazy with CPA…
I’m planning on switching to 12.5mg soon. With my E levels, I could probably even drop it.I stopped taking it all together a few years ago, yeh my t levels bumped up a little, but it’s actually pretty neat having higher t levels. Energy, muscle growth, libido.
At the levels they’ve prescribed you, I’d be checking on your liver health, a friend of mine ws hospitalised (after taking a large daily dose for 2 years, they did recover)
As a side note a doctor i saw once said taking e sublingually without pills designed for it was a waste of time (itll just end up in your gut anyway), but i am pretty certain it does make a difference cause it gives me some fuzzies when I do it
I still live as my assigned gender, and didnt start hrt til I was in my late 20s, about 7 years ago (wow)
anyway, take care my friend
I’ve only been doing E injections (EEn, monotherapy) for the last 10 (?) months, and my experience has been largely similar (minus the desire for pregnancy, and the boyfriend :P). My libido crashed to zero immediately after starting, and has only slowly started to come back in the past month or so, although it’s much less intense and less frequent than it was before.
sex stuff
Regular penile orgasms also got a lot worse within a week or so of starting E - they basically just got a lot weaker and shorter. Frankly, that hasn’t changed at all, but I also don’t care because those are the least interesting kind of orgasm :P
Long before starting E, I’d already figured out how to pull off (hands-free) dry orgasms multiple times in a row, with a few different techniques, but it always took a LOT of time and often didn’t work right. (side note: it’s weird to think how long it took me to figure out that feminizing HRT is a thing when you consider how much effort I put into researching how to have “women’s orgasms” as a teen)
Anyway, it took like 9 months but I’ve finally started unlocking all the fun sexy stuff - new erogenous zones, orgasms are now a much more intense full-body sensation which lasts way longer (from ~5s to 30s-1m!), and I can just go again and again without having to worry about tightly controlling stimulation intensity or my headspace. As long as I avoid stimulating my gock I can now easily chain together orgasms that me from 3 years ago couldn’t even imagine :3
minus the desire for pregnancy, and the boyfriend :P
I’m sorry 😭
I’m glad it’s coming back for you too tho! Having no libido is weird
NSFW talk
Long before starting E, I’d already figured out how to pull off (hands-free) dry orgasms multiple times in a row
I think I know what you mean, but I haven’t been able to do that, ever. Mine have become dry-ish, but there are still a couple of drops of clear stuff (ew, sorry).
The best I can do in regards to “multiple times” is to not stop after the first one and just power through, I guess, but that’s not what you mean. The first one can take me between 10-60 minutes and the second is around 10-20, but much stronger…I wish I could actually chain them, not whatever this is…
Also, mine absolutely do not last more than 10-15 seconds. I’m so jealous!
Please, girl, teach me your secrets, I need to know 😭
I think I know what you mean and it would make my life A LOT easier. During sex with my bf, I don’t bother with a magic wand, because it’s too much focus on that and then I don’t enjoy the sex as much. And even when I try, I can never finish anyway…Hands free would literally almost save my life. Please girl, please teach me, I’m begging you 🙏
I’ll literally pay you, just please teach me how to achieve this magic 😭nsfw, LONG
Okay, I should clarify some terms I’m using here. By “dry orgasms” I mean orgasming without ejaculating at all. What you’re describing is ejaculation, which is reduced significantly since your body is no longer really producing sperm - what’s left is basically just the sugary watery stuff which the sperm would be mixed with. However, even without HRT, it’s quite possible to separate penile orgasms (i.e. orgasms triggered by stimulating the shaft of the penis) from the ejaculation part and have just one or the other.
By “hands free” I’m mainly referring to orgasming without touching the penile shaft, but rather stimulating some other sensitive body part¹.
Let’s start from the absolute basics: there are a variety of different kinds of orgasm which require different kinds/amounts of stimulation to achieve, can feel pretty substantially different, and are more or less tightly coupled to ejaculation. On top of that, HRT will also significantly change a lot of variables here. I’ll try and go through one step at a time and explain first how it works in a testosterone-dominant body (or rather: how it worked for me), and then how it changes on E. There’s probably a lot of stuff I’m skipping over here; I’m only discussing stuff I’ve experimented with myself or have heard in discussions with multiple other people. Also, keep in mind that most of the stuff here can vary a TON from person to person - heck, some cis women can’t do multiple orgasms! This is intended as a kicking-off point for you to do more research on your own.
The penile orgasm is the most basic one, and is probably the only one that 90% of straight guys will ever have. On T, triggering it is extremely easy - literally just rub up-and-down along the shaft and/or tip of the penis, and just absolutely go to town using the medium of your choice: vagina, mouth, hand, fleshlight, rubber glove in a pringles can, whatever. The resulting orgasm is short and extremely intense, with most of the pleasurable sensation being concentrated in and near the penis itself, and is nearly inseparable from ejaculation. Once ejaculation has occurred, there’s generally a fairly long refractory period before another one is possible, and each subsequent round is more difficult to achieve and less intense.
The most other most widely known kind of orgasm for bodies on T is the prostate orgasm, which is triggered by stimulating the prostate either through pressing around the taint, or reaching it more directly via the anus (ideally using a dedicated prostate massager). If done correctly, prostate orgasms won’t result in a full erection or ejaculation², and are immensely pleasurable in exactly the opposite way of a “conventional” orgasm. It takes a fair amount of patience and being in the right headspace to actually notice anything, and the sensation is relatively subtle so for someone used to penile orgasms it’ll be hard to notice anything going on. The best way I can describe it is a continuous series of 5-10 second “waves” of pleasure which aren’t particularly intense (but still quite fun!), and the sensation is more spread across the entire lower body.
For lack of better terminology, I’m going to refer to this next one as a “girl orgasm”, by which I’m referring to the stereotypical female orgasm: long, intense (less than a penile orgasm, though), the pleasurable sensations seems to originate in the brain and spread from there to the whole body, and little to no refractory period. For me, this was always the “holy grail” of the sexual experience, and with a lot of practice (and many failed attempts along the way), it is possible for someone on T to achieve these. Ideally, it’d also cause little to no erection, and no ejaculation. There are a number of different techniques floating around for how to pull this off, from carefully controlled edging to clamping down the pelvic floor muscles as hard as possible immediately before ejaculating. The only thing I found that seemed to work is by completely relaxing EVERY muscle, and then make tiny movements using just the tip of a finger to stimulate only the penile frenulum (CW: images of genetalia). If your pelvic floor muscles flex at all (the muscles around the base of the penis which flex during regular penile stimulation and pulse during ejaculation), or if your penis get more than like half-erect, that means you’re stimulating too much and switched over to regular penile orgasm mode - stop for a while and start back from the beginning! With a lot of practice you’ll eventually get to the point that you can feel a very different sort of pleasure in your mind (not in your penis!) and if you’re in exactly the right mental state you can eventually push far enough to get a full-on girl orgasm - and with even more practice you can eventually pull this off multiple times in a row. Huge amount of work, takes weeks/months of practice, and isn’t more than like 50% reliable even under ideal circumstances.Okay, now we can move on to what changes post-HRT! First off, the conventional penile orgasm gets harder to achieve and less pleasurable. For a few tgirls I’ve spoken to, the same kind of up-and-down stimulation of the penile shaft now actually causes them to have a proper girl orgasm, but for most people it seems like that kind of stimulation simply becomes a lot less effective or becomes actively uncomfortable, and if you do orgasm in that way, it simply won’t feel as intense as it used to pre-transition. Ejaculation will probably happen; the ejaculate is now clear due to lack of sperm.
At least in my experience, prostate orgasms still work the same. More research may be necessary. wink wink
The real game changer is that girl orgasms are much easier to achieve reliably! The entire buildup process becomes much more forgiving - you can actually twitch your hips or roll your head back or clench your pelvic floor or … without having to reset back to zero, you can let your mind drift without all the sexual “pressure” being transferred to the penis and being converted to an ordinary penile orgasm, you don’t have to be extremely precise with where and how you stimulate. Most/all of the new erogenous zones estrogen unlocks (boobs, tummy, hips, ass, inner thighs, neck, …) seem to build up towards this sort of orgasm. For some transfems, stimulating the penis in certain ways (most notably: using a vibrator on the head) apparently triggers girl orgasms post-HRT. Personally, I can’t reproduce this; any kind of penile stimulation triggers a (somewhat underwhelming) penile orgasm. Maybe I’ve just got to wait longer for HRT to work its magic?Finally, I’ll add that learning how to recognize which body parts to stimulate in which way, and more importantly how different kinds of arousal and orgasm feel (especially in the early buildup stages) will probably require a fair amount of solo practice :)
¹ It’s definitely possible to orgasm and/or ejaculate without any physical stimulation at all, but that requires you to be exceptionally horny - I’ve only ever managed to pull that off during very elaborate self-bondage sessions.
² There might be get some (or a lot or) precum, though :Phot damn that turned out longer than i expected
This is super informative. Thanks so much girl 🩷
I’ll have to do some exploring on my own then 😆
Thanks again!
yyuuuum proogg, yeah i was ace it made me horniiiii,
I was horny ace before HRT.
Hey, good for you! Happy for you Erin!
(Only if it’s a welcome change, if it’s not, I’m so sorryyy 😭)meowwwwwwww i like it owo
That’s good! Good kitty :3
rubs
good to hear its going well!
Been on HRT for 10 weeks / 2.5 months
For me, my libido was probably average before HRT? Not sure, I wasn’t exactly excited for sex, and masturbated mostly because the evil hormones told me too. I think this was from relationship problems at the time and general stress I think. I did have a lot of issues around sex probs because of dysphoria aswell.
HRT def nuked the libido. Doing maintenance when I have zero libido was so so weird. This was when I was on 4mg E. Jumped on 6mg E a month ago and that has put some libido back into me. It does feel a little different. Mostly gives me the desire to hug someone!? Idk. Its weird. I guess im just lonely lmao.
One note is the orgasms haven’t really changed lol. They were always pretty boring on T anyway unless i worked on it for ages lmaoo
For now I don’t care much about where my libido is at. Yes, I would like to come back at some point, absolutely. But by no means am I looking for a relationship atm. I mostly need more friends who understand, hence why, if my anxiety lets me, will go to a queer bar soonish.
Anyway, little ramble over lol
Not sure, I wasn’t exactly excited for sex, and masturbated mostly because the evil hormones told me too
I get that 🫂
The evil hormones sucked, but we’re on the right track now, sister 🩷Mostly gives me the desire to hug someone!?
Yesss, the desire for physical closeness! It’s so nice tho. I enjoy it a lot. Not weird at all!
Please don’t be lonely. I’m sure you’ll find the right person one day. This is selfish, arrogant and also cliché, but if I could do it…I believe anyone canI mostly need more friends who understand
I feel you 🥺
Umm. We both need more friends 👉👈
do you have Matrix by any chance? 😅Anyway, little ramble over lol
Girl, ramble away, absolutely nothing wrong with that. Some of us already do (I’m guilty, lol)
I just wanted to say, at 2.5 months, you’re still early. Your orgasms and libido will definitely change with more time on HRT. And hopefully, your dysphoria fucks off…
I’m rooting for you girlie ♥️thank you! rooting for you too!
i do sort of. its @eeepy_cat:matrix.org if u want to add
if you’re on matrix, you should join the blahaj.zone/196 space over at #196-Blahaj:chat.blahaj.zone :3
I am on Matrix! I’ll check the 196 space out, thanks :3
Interesting read but Estradiol levels of 367 pg/ml sound incredibly high to me
The recommendations for under 200 are based on the old estrogen decades back that used to have a high cancer rate so the cut the recommendations in half. 300-400 is based on more current research and even that is meant for postmenopausal cis-women, not trans-women or any research of pubescent girls or anything that would help determine what trans-women should get.
Several reputable places have updated. The first place I was shown it was the famous Mt Sinai clinic in New York, but since it’s women’s health, it takes a very long time to spread and be accepted. Most doctors are still hesitant to give menopausal women HRT despite the significant research showing the benefits. And of course, there is no official research to say what trans-women should get regularly, much less to trigger our little late-in-life second puberty.
But check with your doctor of course. I’m not one, I just got lucky to have a good doctor at first who had done the research and had lots of experience. Your needs may vary.
It is high indeed, and that’s my trough.
I had a trough of 110pg/ml with 5mg EV every 4 days, so now I do every 3.I must say, I’m feeling the best I have so far.
More energetic than ever, happy most of the time, libido is good, as I mentioned.If this was Premarin, I’d probably be dead by now. But this is estradiol valerate, which is bioidentical, so I’m still here and doing well. I have an amazing endo taking care of me too ❤️







