I got banned from Xitter 2 weeks after joining bc I was too savage with transphobes
getting banned from shitter is basically a recommendation at this point. makes me almost regret deleting my account in 2022. almost.
Me too
Xitter account ban any%
Cunt! Cunt! Cunt! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!
CUUUUNNNNNNNT!
deleted by creator
Heinie giggles and blushes
Tush 😳
Buns ☺️
deleted by creator
bum
🇲🇦🇸🇸🇮🇻🇪 🇱🇴🇴🇸🇪 🇧🇺🇹🇹🇭🇴🇱🇪🇸
This is what I particularly hate about self censorship
If you are behaving a certain way to please an algorithm or an advertiser, you’re just cosplaying as a bot—particularly on lemmy where all it’s going to accomplish is annoyance
Say whatever the fuck you like, it’s more human
But what if what I want to say sometimes resembles the self censorship anyway, because my anxieties make me want to avoid coming off as too “mean” regardless of what some corpo thinks?
Are you fucking serious?
Good.
Are you serious?
Another great option if you don’t want to swear.
Are you f*cking serious?
Dumb autocensorship. Don’t ever do this. Either spell it out or leave the word out altogether. This accomplishes nothing.
Even just “Are you freaking serious?” This one tells me you want to get across a similar point but don’t swear like a sailor. “F*cking” tells me that your mom’s going to take away your Xbox for a week if she finds out.
I self censor because my intrusive thoughts are especially unkind to people who don’t deserve it. But they’ll pry the word fuck out of my cold, dead fucking hands.
Fuck Nestle
Shit
Piss
Cum
This comment did not post itself
Bush built 7/11
You can call me the fediverse chick
Windows can suck my balls
Kernel level anti cheats can eat my shit
I am a good girl
I am a lil cutie patootie
You should love yourself NOW
Thank you for coming to my GREG talk
You can call me the fediverse chick
You are Nicole :O?
I am Jia Tan, but you can call me the fediverse chick anyway!
I want to throw the CEO of Nestle off the Golden Gate Bridge #darkhumor
WaTeR iS nOt A hUmAn RiGhT!!!
Meme image of Michael Fassbender‘s Magneto saying “perfection.”
I feel like I just read an E.E. Cummings
What’s with the horse obsession?
honse
I swear at this point I dreamed this, but I have a distinct memory about an underground newspaper somewhere that was getting hassled by censorship interests, that published an issue with the following on the cover:
Fuck. Shit. Cunt. Piss.
Serious ask - if anyone remembers this and can toss up a link about it, I’d appreciate it. Have looked a few times and turned up nothing, pretty sure it came up when I was in school researching random stuff related to the U.S. circa 1960s-1970s but could be wrong.
Assuming I didn’t dream this, always wanted a framed photocopy of it.
Edit: it might be buried under stuff about George Carlin’s 7 words you can never say on television, but I swear this was something else.
I have watched this man try (and fail) to get dropped by his VPN sponsor by doing ever increasingly unhinged skits.
He truly walks the walk.
Remember when that one American restaurant chain was the most popular shit because the social media person started posting brainrot on twitter? Or the funny caffeine powder with big anime tiddies? Same effect.
I don’t recall the caffeine powder actually. Unless that’s the one sponsoring all the streamers and such with the cups that have big ol Anime tiddies printed on it, in which case I didn’t know they were funny.
Or the funny caffeine powder with big anime tiddies?
I do not remember this
There is a big fucking difference between swear words, slurs and straight up death threats.
Right, but which of the following will be deemed unacceptable by the AI scanners of the corporate behemoth?
-
Shut your cunt mouth you sloppy fucking bitch
-
I will permanently impede the flow of oxygen to your brain, you scurrying insect
-
Well, my victims only die from secondary infections, not the act of skinning them alive.
Cool
Just make it incredible. I will feed you to a pack of wolves.
My children will watch your clones fight to the death.
Removed by mod
That’s an incredible response.
I will not be food for monsters. If their blade finds my flesh, may they drown in my blood
Removed by mod
Oh man I got banned from AITA years ago for calling the clearly incredible asshole third party “cunt”, cuz that’s a slur.
Having been watching Australian streamers right before didn’t help but come on…
That’s basically our informal period point
Removed by mod
Tap for spoiler
Meowdarchod sounds like madarchod, which means motherfucker in Hindi.
I always thought Tumblr was mostly filled with sensitive souls and erotic fan-fiction.
This is true until you find the hard-core bdsm shit.
There are some strange rabbit holes on Tumblr.
NSFW Content isn’t allowed on Tumblr
piss and shit!!!
Farts and poop!
Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker and tits.
Words of a wise man.
Fart, turd, and twat
This is how you get places like 4chan. I’d rather have a place where everyone is nice and bigots get banned than have a “marketplace of ideas” where everyone is an asshole. Really cool that you want your freedom of saying “I want to skin you alive” but what about my freedom of not having to get that said to me?
I don’t know if they know that some people are nice because they want to, not because they have to.
What about not having rules against certain words but against certain behaviours?
Fine by me.
To add to my original point: What OP says against corporate sanitization is true (e.g. weid Youtube monetization rules), but it’s also the exact same thing bigots say because they want to call people slurs. And I don’t want to give them what they want.
The issue is more a loss of contextual awareness. For example - why should a true crime documentary have to self-censor words like rape, died, sexual assault when they are often relevant to the story being told? Why should a blogger talking about mental health issues have to self-censor the word suicide?
These are valid issues. There’s a reply in here which has a screenshot of someone saying “elon musk can fucking die”. Context tells you immediately it’s not a targeted death threat, it’s an opinion. Yet the systems that places rely on cannot make that distinction.
4chan existed way before the advent of the attempts to sanitize the internet. Heck I remember the biker forum I frequented having some nasty shit and attitudes on there. But despite their scummy viewpoints, these were people I could rely on when my motorbike shat itself.
Smaller communities police themselves better as well. Large-scale social media and other platforms just made it much harder to have the moderator model that those forums had. The human touch is sorely lacking as much as the automated processes lack nuance and context. A modern form of the Scunthorpe problem I guess.
But I am not agruing for corporate sanitization and algorithm-based word filters. I am also with you that we are in a dire need of smaller communities with a human touch. I am merely arguing against anyone who “just” wants to normalize hyperviolent comments. Because introducing this to the current large-scale, algorithm-monitored communities will not fix the above issues, but backfire spectacularly, because it enables bigots.
OP saw all these problems, but chose the wrong solution. We need smaller, closer communities instead.
So you think slurs should be banned instead of bad behaviour?
If I can’t ask what a TERF if or discuss it, it’s stupid IMO. Weaseling in racism with ordinary words is, you know it, bad IMO.
No? Where did I say that? Bad behaviour should be banned, no matter what.
But in the current state (huge scale, algorithm based moderation only) this is not properly enforced already. My problem now is that if hyper violent language no longer gets you banned, bigots will use that and will get away with it too often. I’d rather not be able to call someone an asshole than getting called 50 slurs and then watch the algorithm do nothing about it.
You’re saying it again, “oh no we must ban bad words!!”.
Do you think hyper violent language does not fall under bad behaviour if it isn’t a transcript for example? Should hyper violent language be banned so that you can’t talk about it?
You’re just digging in.
No, the nuance is that I think that in the current state of social media, as shitty as it is, a blanket unbanning of bad words would be a net negative.
I do not think that bad words should be banned generally. In quotes/transcripts etc it should be fine. I know they currently aren’t and I agree that’s a problem. Also, of course, in small, self-moderated communities bad words are fine if everyone there is ok with that.
But OP isn’t arguing for that. They just argued that we should blindly add hyper-violent language (back) to the systems we currently have. And not only regarding transcriptions/etc. And I think that will lead to a way worse outcome that the current status quo.
Again, I do not think bad words in a transcription/quoting/discussing should be banned because that’s ridiculous. But, on large social media platforms, they should stay banned when being directed at individuals, because yes, calling Elon an asshole to his face is carthatic, but you are buying that freedom with the price of bigots calling everyone slurs. And I simply don’t think that’s worth it, nothing more.
The issues we face with capitalized social media can only be solved by forming smaller circles again. Not by adding slurs into the mix and hoping they will only benefit you and won’t make the place a miserable hellhole.
Forums that were moderated by small communities were the shit.
Being able to report something and have an actual person review it is a luxury few face on modern social media.
one of the things that i think the post talks about is fostering a culture. extremely over-the-top threats are normal on tumblr because it’s a place where everyone is nice. ironically, less overt stuff is taken more seriously because you can tell that it’s not in jest.
Thats the beauty of the fediverse imo. Find a cosy instance that suits you. Block instances that don’t
I principally agree with you, it’s why I use reddit/lemmy and not 4chan.
But there is a difference, albeit hard to convey correctly through text. But I think some of the extreme responses mentioned are the ones in the banter type. It’s a kind of response when someone jokingly says “Star Wars and Star Trek is pretty much the same” and you go “I’ll skin you alive” due to the unjust comparison. It sure as hell don’t work with strangers, but it can within an community since everyone knows neither party is serious about it. Which is what the original post kind of says that it can work in the right community.
Oh I totally get that.
But the way OP puts it just reminds me too much of what the “free speech absolutists” are spouting and we’ve all seen where that leads.
As a Zoomer this is what I hate about a lot of Millennials. They think allowing people to do anything that might make anyone a little uncomfortable leads to allowing Nazis to run rampant. I’m not even the abrasive person but… some people really DO need a thicker skin. There’s a huge difference between extreme expressions of anger, and genocide advocacy. In fact, a lot of bigotry is disturbingly polite.
But it’s also how you get places like Tumblr
Removed by mod
You can say ***ger with a hard ‘r’ if you want. Watch:
Ahem,
GINGER!
NAGGER!
Stop nagging! So annoying!
V’ger!
Woah! Fucking with the G-word is just not on!
Whoa, I remember him! asdfmovie was my childhood!
